Thursday, February 2, 2012

Academy accused of targeting religious group

Posted by Pam Zubeck on Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM

It's a well-known fact that Mikey Weinstein and his Military Religious Freedom Foundation are the bane of the Air Force Academy.

But is MRFF such an enemy that an academy leader put out the word to run a counter-insurgency against the nonprofit?

MRFF says it has evidence that, indeed, happened and is demanding the Air Force Secretary Michael Donley order an investigation. Here's the letter:
letter_to_Michael_Donley_1_feb_2012.pdf

Mum's the word from the Pentagon. Air Force spokesman Todd Spitler issued this statement today: "As this is a matter concerning ongoing litigation, it would be inappropriate to comment at this time."

Weinstein: Outraged again.
  • Weinstein: Outraged again.

In the way of background, Weinstein began his campaign in 2004, alleging the academy favors fundamentalist Christianity. Former Commandant Gen. Johnny Weida taught cadets chants about Jesus, for example. Weinstein has been crying foul ever since on various infractions he and others have perceived of the U.S. Constitution's establishment of religion clause, i.e., the government can't dictate what religion you believe in, if any.

More recently, we reported in August that AFA superintendent Lt. Gen. Michael Gould wrote in an e-mail that the best course in dealing with e-mails from Weinstein is to "block them from reaching my machine. I'm done with him," he wrote.

In that same report, we quoted AFA professor David Mullin, who was a named plaintiff against the academy in a religious freedom case in February, as saying, "They didn't want to deal with anything having to do with his complaints. He might forward complaints of MRFF clients who were agonizing, and they just blew it off."

E-mails support that. On Sept. 24, 2010, Weinstein forwarded a message to Dean of Faculty Brig. Gen. Dana Born in which the writer complained the Bible was the only sacred text displayed at an academy prep school prisoner of war display. Born sent the message to others at the academy, saying, "hate to forward these — not worth the time usually you will spend reading it."

After Mullin went public with his criticism, Born didn't renew his teaching contract. He's since filed an Equal Employment Opportunity lawsuit.

On Dec. 9, 2011, Born was deposed in Mullin's civil rights lawsuit. Mullin's attorney, Robert Eye, asked Born if she had ever used the term "counter-insurgency" to describe anything involving the academy.

"No, sir," she said.

The attorney then asked additional questions about use of the term, and Born denied having said it.

But now, it appears MRFF has proof, in writing, that Born misspoke. Eye, who also represents MRFF, wrote in the letter to Donley:

It has come to our attention that, contrary to the sworn testimony of Brig. General Born, she directed, in writing, at least one subordinate, Col. Thomas A. Drohan, Permanent Professor and Head of the Department of Military Strategic Studies, to conduct a counterinsurgency campaign against MRFF and presumably, MRFF clients at the USAFA. We understand that at the direction of Brig. General Born, Col. Drohan's mid-term performance appraisal specified that he was to conduct a "COIN" against MRFF and its clients. In this context "COIN" is shorthand reference to counterinsurgency.

Born: On the hotseat.
  • Born: On the hotseat.

He also noted that her identifying MRFF and its clients as COIN targets is "an apparent attempt to chill both speech and assembly rights of MRFF clients" and runs afoul of the Constitution's prohibition on any "religious test."

We asked to speak with Born and Drohan, but academy spokesman Lt. Col. John Bryan responded by e-mail saying, "As you know, we don't comment on IG [inspector general] investigations."

Bryan might have been referencing a Secretary of the Air Force Inspector General's investigation that's underway regarding allegations that Born and Col. Richard Fullerton misrepresented the academy faculty's credentials to the school's accreditation agency. (And by the way, though that investigation apparently is wrapping up, the IG never contacted this newspaper, to which Born made statements about the faculty's credentials in 2010 that were cited in the whistleblowers' requests for an investigation.)

Weinstein's reaction to all this is obviously one of outrage. "We’re talking about perjury," he says in an interview. "That’s a very serious felony. Can you imagine the fact she put this on his evaluation?
A counterinsurgency against my association? Unbelievable."

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No wonder we are having such a tough time with our various invasions. It appears a flag officer, the Dean of Faculty, at what is now, apparently, a Christian Evangelical College (AKA the USAF Academy), does not understand the meaning of the term "Counterinsrgency."
We must have the dumbest and most overpaid military in our nation's history.

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Posted by RichAZ on 02/02/2012 at 5:18 PM

It bothers me when a female military member who has been in as long as this woman has resorts to tactics like perjury and disregarding the Constitutional ban on religion in government( yes, the military is government). I was in the US Army in the 70's and we knew that religion had no part in our military life, and only in our private life. It bothers me to my core that this is happening. I was even stationed at West Point in the mid 70's and this stuff wasn't going on there then. It is sad what the military has deteriorated to.

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Posted by Beth Belgard Crader on 02/02/2012 at 9:50 PM

It would appear the author Chris Rodda got it right in the title to her book "Liars for Jesus'... the extreme right-wing evangelical's only concern about violation of their beloved Decalogue involves violations by others, not themselves. Naturally, violating "Thou shalt not lie" in the context of a nonsecular legal action is known as "perjury".

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Posted by Rael Nidess on 02/03/2012 at 7:39 AM

It appears that Air Force Academy Dean of Faculty, Gen. Born, may be in hot water over a couple of missteps. She and a subordinate are being investigated for inaccuracies in representing the Academy faculty credentials and for instructing another subordinate to conduct a "counter-insurgency" against the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and its president, Mikey Weinstein.

Power and Religion are a potent combination and Gen. Born is aptly named for she is a Born-again Christian who has violated the constitution a number of times by advancing, elevating, preferring and proselytizing her faith to helpless cadets and faculty members.

There are a few senior officers around that have let slip their real professions as abject Christian sycophants. You've already read about Gen. Jerry Boykin, Gen. Mike Gould and Gen. Born Again Born but there is also Gen. Jack Catton, Air Force procurement chief who says he places God first in all things, family second and country third. So much for his oath to support and defend the constitution. I could fill this page with the names of hopeless religious nuts but I don't want to scare you too much more.

Suffice it to say that left on their own, some of our most senior military officers could sevely cripple the armed forces by turning them into Dominion Christian-led religious militias.

It is incumbent on all who remain objective about religion in the military and concerned about the surge of Dominion Christianity to stay vigilant and report any concernes to the MRFF.

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Posted by richardbk8 on 02/03/2012 at 10:17 AM

Does anyone know why BGen Born was allowed to serve beyond 5 years as Dean? When I went to USAFA, the Dean was changed every five years. She has been around since 2004. Nepotism can be corrected if leaders rotate more often. I taught under her leadership for four years. She is the type of leader that only tells subordinates what they want to hear. She lacks moral courage, in my opinion.

When I was a cadet in the 1990s, I took some abuse from "New Lifers", which included classmates and my Air Officer Commanding, for being Catholic. BGen Born says she's Catholic, but I guess she decided early on to stay quiet, rather than fight a wrong. Again, I've seen this in her leadership style - an aversion to making difficult decisions, maybe out of fear of being disliked.

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Posted by USAFA Red Tag on 02/03/2012 at 10:28 AM

Just another day at the office for religious kooks in the Air Force.
No doubt the AFA chaplains are praying for Gen. Born and for Mikey's
soul. Thanks for exposing these abuses, stories like these help to
halt the potential rise of any kind of theocracy in the
military.

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Posted by D Knight on 02/03/2012 at 11:26 AM

I think what upsets me more than anything else is to think I served two combat tours in Vietnam for the express purpose of upholding and protecting our glorious Constitution and all the freedoms guaranteed therein. (Also protecting my big fat arse)

Among those is the First Amendment, interpreted many times by the US Supreme Court and finally settling the question of church and state separation.

Freedom of religion has also been defined and it would do our Uber-Christian friends at the Academy well to read the decisions made by the court relative to what religious freedom really is. Like all the Amendments, the First is not absolute. Just as you cannot use speech to incite a riot you may not practice your religion to the detriment of others.To exclude any and all faiths in the military for the purpose of elevating or proselytizing one as well as promoting religion over non-religion, is prohibited.

Now, when I said I served two combat tours in RVN I actually never fired a shot as as I was a Rescue and Recovery Pilot flying Jolly Green Giants (CH-3). I can say that the timely saving of lives by holding the record in my squadron for shortest response times and the expertise of our parajumpers (Med Techs) in stemming wounds and providing aid was gratifying. But I did that for people not for their gods or mine. For one person to have to suffer at the hands of a religious zealot is one person to many. That's why it's vital that this nest of Dominionist sycophants at the AFA be cleaned out and start over again with a chain of command with both feet on the ground instead of one in Heaven.

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Posted by richardbk8 on 02/03/2012 at 12:26 PM

If readers recall Ms Zubeck reported Mr Weinstein declared war on the Academy. See Sep 17 2010 article, "Weinstein: 'A state of war' with AFA". With Mr Weinstein leading a personal smear campaign against Gen Born who would be surprised to learn of Gen Born's desire for self-defense. Who can forget Mr Weinstein's classic name calling of Gen Born, "General Born-Again." Trouble is she's a practicing Catholic. But the facts have never gotten in the way of a good tag line for Mr Weinstein. If there is a COIN campaign, I'd wager it’s a campaign to counter Mr Weinstein's master spin campaign with cold hard facts. Asking someone to find ways to get the truth out is neither unethical nor illegal. In fact, it ought to be commended. Here’s hoping Ms Zubeck decides to do some impartial investigative journalism on this subject soon so we all can be better informed.

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Posted by Ender on 02/04/2012 at 6:45 AM

Apparently, Mr. Ender is not surprised that Gen. Born lied under oath, because it was driven by a desire to defend herself from the charges of perjury leveled at her by Mickey Weinstein's personal smear campaign! Mr. Ender has no comment on his own personal campaign to smear Mickey Weinstein.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/04/2012 at 9:26 AM

The non-credible internet troll (I know that's redundant) strikes again! Ender continues defending something he or she never had a chance to defend in uniform! We might listen if you actually had some experience or connection to our military. Unfortunately, this town is full of religious fanatics who will stop at nothing in their quest for religious domination. Here's to hoping that Ender continues building a narrative based on picking lines from news articles in order to sound "informed" about the events at USAFA. Have you heard of and seen citizens who are infatuated with pretending to be in the military and go above and beyond with their stories? Report Ender to http://www.stolenvalor.com.

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Posted by ben kenobi on 02/04/2012 at 10:17 AM

Honestly, I don't need to smear Mr Weinstein – nor is it my intent. My apologies if that is what you believe I’m trying to do. I have no desire to do so. Mr Weinstein speaks for himself. I have represented his tactics and strategic agenda dispassionately and accurately. I invite readers to review the MRFF website and see Mr Weinstein for themselves. Two of my particular favorites are his Army War College video and his Red Bird Radio interview. Show me where I have misrepresented his tactics and agenda. Have I once called him a name? If Gen Born perjured herself, no argument here, she needs to be held accountable. Just as I would expect Mr Weinstein to be held accountable when he testifies in court. Trouble is Mr Weinstein constantly hides behind an ever inflating anonymous Academy client base that no one, not even Ms Zubeck, has access to but him. All you have to do is read the transcripts of his appearance in Federal Court when he sued the Academy over the National Prayer Luncheon to understand what I mean. Again the man speaks for himself. Finally ben Kenobi why does my dispassionate reason and questions trouble you so that your only come backs are name calling. Where are your current facts? Please, I beg of you enlighten the readers with current facts and actual cases of retribution, lives ruined, blood in the streets, etc. Wait for it. Que the name calling. Thanks ben. You are a true Jedi.

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Posted by Ender on 02/04/2012 at 11:50 AM

Honestly, it appears that Mr. Ender, contrary to his own assertions, has a very real and desperate need to smear Mickey Weinstein.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/04/2012 at 1:45 PM

Ender,
I'm a case of retribution from USAFA. You have no idea what you're talking about. And just so you know, my case is backed up by the USAF and DOD IG. WRT instructor qualifications and the cover up at USAFA, it's all very very true.

And yes, they went after me personally and professionally in an attempt to discredit and destroy. There is a REASON people don't speak up....and it isn't because of a lack of crimes being commited....

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Posted by been there on 02/04/2012 at 4:05 PM

been there may I ask when this happened to you? I've never denied there was buffoonery and significant pain caused prior to Gen Gould taking the stick in June 2009. Please elaborate. Apparently you've already blown the whistle and are protected by "whistle blower" laws. Lay out your case to include timeline for the benefit of the readers. So we can all be better informed on this subject. Mr K-- welcome to the conversation. Please demonstrate how I have smeared Mr Weinstein in my writings (and please keep the context intact as best you can). Have I done it when I asked readers to go to the MRFF website and hear directly from Mr Weinstein? Have I mis-characterized Mr Weinstein's tactics and strategy? Have I called him names? Please educate me on how I have smeared Mr Weinstein. And I'll gladly apologize.

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Posted by Ender on 02/04/2012 at 8:05 PM

Ender,
There is a reason I'm not "public"....the toll on my so called "career" and my family has been enough. In short, a little over 3 years ago....went to the IG and the dean and was given an LOC for "going up the chain" without permission. yeah...really....in writing. By law, they had 6 months to adjudicate my case...it took 2 years...no apologies...nothing. The dean KNEW within about 6 months of the investigation what the outcome was...yet she put a guy who commited a FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CRIME as her #1 for promotion to O6. I was a highly rated, extremely well qualified instructor...with the right degree from the right school....I was illegally barred (according to the IG) from even applying for a full time, long term position...and the Dean allowed it....she KNEW, and did nothing....instead, they hired a person with an MPA to teach math...then someone with a MBA (the night school kind)...and still another with a Masters in HRM.....and the Dean knew about all of them....and the AFBCMR came to the conclusion that there was no way to determine that I was more qualified for the position I wasn't even allowed to apply for than the person who got the job...the person who didn't even have a technical Masters. Of course, the Board Cahrperson was an old DC freind of BG Borns.
I was very happy to find out that Lt Gen Gould was coming....I knew him from the past, and thought that he was a man of integrity. I was unfortunately wrong. He met with me...promised he'd get to the bottom of things...make things right, and let me know what came of everything. Well, against the advice of many in his inner circle, he actually PROMOTED the "born again" Lt Col who had a FEDERAL CRIME on his record...and immediately cut off all contact with me. So much for being a man of integrity.

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Posted by Benn There on 02/04/2012 at 8:49 PM

Mr. Ender seems to have forgotten already that he accused Mickey Weinstein of conducting a personal smear campaign against Gen. Born, without offering a single, solitary shred of evidence to back it up. That is a smear against Mickey Weinstein.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/04/2012 at 9:28 PM

Benn There, congratulations on getting Mr. Ender to admit that things at the academy did not improve before 2009. In the other academy related thread, "Freshman cadet 'counseled' for proselytizing in e-mail," Mr. Ender implied things improved after 2005. Of course, 2009 is after 2005, so strictly speaking it was not a falsehood.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/04/2012 at 9:42 PM

Mr. Ender writes, "I've never denied there was buffoonery and significant pain caused prior to Gen Gould taking the stick in June 2009," then asks Benn There to make his case. Mr. Ender has it backwards. Since he admits the academy was at fault as recently as 2009, it is up to the academy to prove that they have eradicated the abuses and corrected the errors of the past. It is not up to Benn There to prove that these abuses and errors continue.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/04/2012 at 10:02 PM

Benn There thanks for sharing what you can. I do appreciate your candor where you are able to do so. Do I understand you correctly that your case is still working its way through the IG process? Mr K-- if readers wish to test my assertion that Mr Weinstein is running a smear campaign against Gen Born all they have to do is go to the MRFF website and do a "General Born" search or secure a copy of the transcripts of Mr Weinstein vs AFA for the National Prayer Luncheon. I'll let readers draw their own conclusions. Not sure how you leaped to "getting me to admit that things at AFA did not improve before 2009". Let me be clear (I’ve always wanted to say that) my position is this. Events leading up to the needed 2005 upheaval clearly demonstrated the balance between the establishment and free exercise clauses were out of whack at the Academy – especially as it pertained to the principle of undue influence. I argue the balance however has been reasonably recalibrated to its proper place especially since 2009. My concern is the residual pain from the buffoonery of 2005 has not been properly addressed to the satisfaction of those who feel the persistent wounds of 2005. Without addressing these residual wounds, the wounded will remain in bunkers; continue to snipe; and struggle to recognize the reasonable recalibration that has taken place at the Academy. Every time I engage in these conversations I’m hoping someone can credibly demonstrate current abuses to substantiate Mr Weinstein’s need for “war” against the Air Force Academy. To date no one has. Granted “Benn There’s” circumstances appears to be on going but is that not because the wheels of justice are turning painfully slow for him and he daily sees those he believes did him in prior to 2009? This is my concern much of the ink spilt on this subject appears to deal with past unresolved grievances that gives the casual reader the impression the balanace is still out of whack and does not acknowledge the reasonable recalibration that has taken place.

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Posted by Ender on 02/05/2012 at 10:46 PM

As a long time supporter and former volunteer at MRFF I am often privy to the communications received by them. I can assure you that things have not settled down at the AFA and the good Gen. Born is in the middle of controversy dealing with overbearing Christian proselytizing and shady dealings with accreditation processes.

Gen. Born, as are so many other ranking military and civilian officials who have been able to operate outside the scope of good order and discipline with virtual immunity, has now found out that a determined opponent can and will expose you and that you must face your misdeeds.

The compainants to MRFF from the AFA are very clear on the issue of Gen. Born and others and their fierce and abject dedication to a darfk form of Christianity, Christian Dominionism/Christian Reconstructionism. Either or both of these may be Googled for complete definitions and examples.

It is certain that given the freedom and power to operate outside of legitimate SOP, Gen. Born and others have made the same mistake all petty tyrants do; they begin believing that they are invulnerable to authority and immune from prosecution. There are many reasons for ranking people to go roque; self aggrandizement, power and position. In this case it is taking on and administering the power of Jesus Christ. We have seen it, by degree, with other minor despots. Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite, David Koresh, Rev. Sun Yung Moon and others who have assumed the power of God and found, eltimately that they were anything but Godly.

Often, high ranking individuals, to whom others must show deference and respect and who are in the position to exert control over them do take on a holier than thou personna and attempt to control others beyond their charter. Certainly Gen. Weida was one such figure who had quite a following in the cadet wing and could have easily, under other circumstances, developed a cult of immense proportion.

Today, even given the disclosures made about the AFA chain of command and their activities, a full scale cult is operating in proximity to the AFA with a number of cadets attending. The Warrick Paternal Shepherding Cult AKA Cadets for Christ, teaches it's members that all wome are sheep and men are their shepherds. Women must remain subordinate to men and "submit graciously" to their husbands in all things. They must remain silent, devoid of opinion and only perform those things for which they are truly qualified: bearing children, housekeeping, and helping out folks over at the church. Women must not hold any jobs in which they are in a position to teach or supervise men. In other words total submission and acquiessence.

Only in Islamic Sharia Law is there any comparable doctrines.

It is good that these revelations are being uncovered so that hopefully, one more chapter in unreasonable religious hegemony can be closed.

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Posted by richardbk8 on 02/06/2012 at 10:18 AM

Mr. Ender writes, "Every time I engage in these conversations I’m hoping someone can credibly demonstrate current abuses to substantiate Mr Weinstein’s need for 'war' against the Air Force Academy."

Written like a true propagandist. As I wrote before, since Mr. Ender acknowledges the academy was in the wrong, it is up to him, or the academy, to "credibly demonstrate" the abuses have ended. A good propagandist knows it is much easier to poke holes in someone else's case than to prove your own case.

For example, Mr. Ender also wrote, "I argue the balance however has been reasonably recalibrated to its proper place especially since 2009." He does indeed argue his head off, but he never produces a single, solitary shred of evidence! See how easy it is?

Also note the escape clause in his statement: "credibly" demonstrate. He forgets to mention that he reserves the right to decide what is and is not credible. As he writes, "To date no one has." How surprising! As far as credibility goes, let's turn Mr. Ender's own words against him: "I'll let readers draw their own conclusions."

Very magnanimous of him to give us his permission, especially as he can not stop us from drawing our own conclusions.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/06/2012 at 10:53 AM

Dear Mr. Ender, This is the first time I've read about this issue in the Colorado Springs Independent, although I've followed with concern the disclosures about the proseletyzing and "Christian" advocacy at an Air Force Academy my tax dollars help support. Regardless of whether or not Dean of Faculty Brig. Gen. Dana Born perceived herself to be the subject of a "witch hunt" by Mickey Weinstein and/or MRFF, engaging in a COIN operation is not an appropriate response, nor is perjury ever acceptable. Let's remember it was Bill Clinton's perjury, also in a deposition, that got him impeached.
As you acknowledge the problems at the AF Academy continued until 2009, just 3 years ago. As posters here confirm, the new leadership at the academy has not resolved these problems with retribution against AF Academy instructors AND this new leadership failed to immediately suspend Brig. Gen Dana Born upon learning of her perjury.
From a distance, it would seem that the climate of Christian evangalism both in the US and abroad fostered by people in the military like folks at the Air Force Academy is still, sadly, alive and well. Separate and aside from the obvious violation of the US Constitution that all these members of the military swear to defend and uphold, it is mind-boggling that they do not also understand that this kind of conduct endangers our servicemen and women across the globe AND impairs US credibility.
There needs to be a purge and a forceful change in climate both at the AF Academy and anywhere else this is still occuring in the miliary.

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Posted by A Believer in the Constitution on 02/06/2012 at 10:58 AM

Ender,
The IG part is complete. 4 violations of the law by 2 senior officers who were IMO protected by the Dean and now the Sup. What I'm waiting for is the Dean, Supt, or even the AF to take ownership of the crimes and make me whole.
But let me make this even easier for you. You write as if you know the Dean, the Supt, or both. ASK THEM! Ask them if they have an officer on the senior staff....someone they HAND PICKED for the position...who according to the IG, commited a federal civil rights crime. Ask them if they did anything....anything at all...to make the victim whole. Ask the Supt if he promised me he'd make things right...then ask him if he ever did....or even had the integrity to tell me why he didn't.

As far as the IG is concerned.....only about 5-6% of IG complaints of restriction and/or reprisal (Whistleblower Protection Act) are substantiated by the IG....the IG substantiated 4 counts againts against the two senior AFA staff members in my case. The bar is VERY high...and they met it in spades.

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Posted by Been There on 02/06/2012 at 6:51 PM

Ender is just another fundamentalist Christian nut bar who spends his time attacking Mikey Weinstein and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and defending the egregious acts of the Air Force Academy in their crusade to prey upon and convert under duress all cadets and support staff. Ender is a troll. He has never been able to back up his statements with facts and instead demands the names of victims of religious discrimination and predation so that he can pass them along to his Fundamentalist buddies on the Air Force Academy staff so that they can be further strong-armed with reprisals. Ender is a co-conspirator with the Fundamentalist Christian hoard running the Academy, a former officer who disgraces the uniform and man without a conscience who considers treason a small price to pay in the crusade to impose a Fundamentalist Christian theocracy on America. He is a man devoid of principle who has sold his pledge to defend the Constitution for a shot at Fundamentalist, Dominionist Christian theocracy. He is morally vacuous and deserves only our utmost contempt.

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Posted by Akiva David Miller on 02/07/2012 at 7:18 AM

Ender,
Haven't heard back from you! Did you ask them?

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Posted by Been There on 02/08/2012 at 9:33 PM

Ironic. They fire the ball coach but in the ongoing proselytizing scandals they won't fire their own guilty officers who keep violating church - state separation.

Yeah, real leadership for America......

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Posted by OldCrank on 02/09/2012 at 11:05 AM

I haven't seen anything in the C.S. Independent or elsewhere about an outcome of the Inspector General's investigation of the problems Dana Born's and Richard Fullerton's lying about Air Force Academy faculty credentials. Add her alleged perjury and directing counterinsurgency against a civil rights group. Then why is she still in her job? Sure due process must be carried out. But how much evidence does the Air Force need to justify removing her while the investigations continue?

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Posted by ACommentator on 02/10/2012 at 8:20 AM

Beware of Femi-nazi Haters for Jesus especially when you find one in high rank ... there's a snake of them slithering thru and is how they move up in rank - by self-promoting each other. ... usual initiation is dirty deeds usually on unsuspecting non-christians, gang mentality ... from Hell! Not to be confused with typical angelic Christian types.

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Posted by xxxMadam on 02/13/2012 at 5:44 PM

Look, I'm convinced Gen. Born is and has been part of a well executed plan to establish the AFA as a major Dominion Christian base of operation. But without definitive information relative to her role in all of this and some resoluton of the current investigation regarding her, I am compelled to sit on my hands and await further development.

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