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Re: “Colorado Springs City Council candidate bags race before it starts

Thank you Pam and the Indy.

"The great British newspaper publisher Lord Northcliffe once said: News is what somebody, somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising.

Posted by doonya on 01/21/2017 at 9:27 AM

Re: “New citizen watchdog group to push for answers and action on water contamination

Video on the
PFCs in the Widefield Aquifer: https://youtu.be/Zur7J4tgFp4

Posted by Bill Burns on 01/21/2017 at 8:53 AM

Re: “Colorado Springs City Council candidate bags race before it starts

Ms. Zubeck is very accurate in her reporting what comes from her sources - if this is a true version from Mr. Carlson of what transpired, it is definitely a case of an entity trying to influence an election through intimidation and has the potential of discouraging individuals from running for elected office.

Will any city council members show any initiative in pursuing the validity of this and dig for details?

Hell no.

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 01/21/2017 at 8:09 AM

Re: “Colorado Springs City Council candidate bags race before it starts

Town is filled with geldings - no outrage - they just roll over and accept the situation

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 01/21/2017 at 5:31 AM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

Really...with the Putin? Why doesn't somebody start talking about the CONTENT of the emails supposedly hacked by Putin's direct orders? I don't care if Osama Bin Laden came back from the dead and released those emails. And frankly, an unclassified server on Hillary's end with a Gmail account on Podesta's end...do you really believe it would take a crackpot KGB hacker to obtain those files? No matter...nobody has refuted them as false and they painted a very clear picture of corruption. The Russians didn't do the corruption in those emails.

Shall we all be buying the fake Russian dossier also pushed by CNN? The emails furthermore painted a systematic receiving of marching orders from the Clinton Campaign for some members of the press who became lapdogs for access versus the watchdogs upon which the republic depends. Why doesn't anyone discuss those media integrity fails? Instead the focus is on who exposed it. By all means dig for the TRUTH. But the Columbua Journalism group cited in this article made an unveiled direct threat to "shape up or we'll fill our airtime and column space with revenge because you're mean." That's not dedication to seeking and publishing the truth, it's political posturing--something the press should not be in the business of doing.

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 01/21/2017 at 12:48 AM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

All this twaddle about truth versus transparency is nothing but a smokescreen. The real problem is that Putin's paramour is a pathological liar, and when exposed, he muddies the waters with bogus claims that the media are the ones who are lying. Immediately, his most fanatic followers (the true deplorables) begin campaigns of personal harassment and intimidation against individual reporters. This is naked censorship.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 01/20/2017 at 11:25 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs City Council candidate bags race before it starts

This report is horrifying. Where is the outrage? A unidentified man went to a candidate's personal residence and threatened him?
Call me naive, but I went to bed last night in the land of the free and the home of the brave and woke up after reading this article ...... where?

I thought it was bad enough when a majority of City Council just blithely ignored a clear mandate from its constituents, but that was child's play compared to what is coming from Colorado Springs Forward.

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Posted by doonya on 01/20/2017 at 10:28 PM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

Sirs:
You are both saying the same thing - just that one of you is arriving at (what I see as) the truth coming from the east, and one coming to it from the west :)
I'm so tired of the word "transparency". But I don't find "truth" in it's lists of synonyms. If politicians won't provide it (transparency), then reporters must dig for it (truth). At it's best, the press must be tireless, fearless, as well as tiresome and fearsome until the truth is revealed. For these qualities, journalists will be both lauded and decried AT THE SAME TIME. As my dad used to say, "It all depends on whose ox is getting gored."

Posted by doonya on 01/20/2017 at 10:05 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs City Council candidate bags race before it starts

After it became clear Carlson wasn't CSF's choice, he says, its executive director, Amy Lathen, a former El Paso County commissioner who left her elective post early to take the CSF job, unfriended him on Facebook.

Lathen.

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 01/20/2017 at 6:50 PM

Re: “'Gap' on I-25 now a 'top priority'

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Re: “'Gap' on I-25 now a 'top priority'

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Posted by Cynthia Gary on 01/20/2017 at 6:19 PM

Re: “Local developers make two picks for Colorado Springs City Council

All candidates are welcome to let us know about campaign events that we can then tell our readers are happening. The Independent plans to endorse candidates as the election draws nearer. The filing deadline is Monday, Jan. 23.

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Posted by Pam Zubeck on 01/20/2017 at 5:07 PM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

LOL that may very well be Joel. There was a lot of butt smooching as well but there always is with those in power. I just hope Im wrong and this Country does not go off the deep end under Trump. We have been on the edge since Clinton was The President but what the hell Im about done anyway. But I hope to leave my kids and granbabies with the same freedoms Ive known. Its been good for the most part.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 01/20/2017 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs City Council candidate bags race before it starts

People of Colorado Springs: WAKE UP. Carlson found out first hand that CSF is NOT our friend and does not mean us well.

Developers, greedsters, and lying politicians want to steal CSU out from under us. They tried to steal Memorial Hospital System and GIVE it to McEvoy but we put an end to their theft of city property. We now need to prevent theft of CSU. If we don't stop them they will privatize CSU, jack up rates, and laugh all the way to the bank.

Is it so horrible that CSU rates are 25% cheaper than Pueblo, Denver or Boulder? Is it terrible that CSU service is excellent? Is it a crime that money we spend on CSU stays local? Do we want to muddy the best water in the country? Do you want to pay 25% more?

They foisted a "strong mayor" on us to set up step two of their plan for their bought-and-paid-for mayor to pick a Utility Board of their scammers to be how they steal CSU out from under us. Do NOT forfeit our right to vote on the future of CSU.

If we need to replace Drake we can do that without term-limits crook Lathen and the cabal of developers behind her and the phony CSF.

Do NOT be fooled by nice sounding names on false-front organizations, the only thing they plan to move "forward" is their own wealth.

WAKE UP. Do not let them steal CSU for themselves and their pals.

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Posted by OldCrank on 01/20/2017 at 4:55 PM

Re: “Local developers make two picks for Colorado Springs City Council

Too bad the readers and the editors of the Independent are so weak and ineffectual. A paper with any influence would not only identify the best competitors, but would begin supporting them with both articles and solicitations for public events, social gatherings, and donations.

Posted by ConcernedCitizen on 01/20/2017 at 4:35 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs City Council candidate bags race before it starts

It is time for a revolution in Colorado Springs leadership. Young and energetic people with new ideas and no fear of the establishment are needed.

Unfortunately Joseph Carlson doesn't seem up to the task.

Many other hopefuls are - and GoFundMe is the best way to counteract the fuddy-duddy check writing skills of the developers and their ilk.

Who's up for it?

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Posted by ConcernedCitizen on 01/20/2017 at 4:32 PM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

Also...for every reporter that said "it stank," there would be 10 that said it was lovely and fragrant. :)

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 01/20/2017 at 11:45 AM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

I think we agree on the necessity of the press. I disagree that the press has been after Obama. Had the same issues arisen with anyone else, those stories wouldn't have taken years to pick up steam. I believe the narrative that Trump is "moving the press out of his way" is narrative fabricated by some of the media who have been called out about their bias. To expand the access of the press outside the 40-50 elite in the WH press corps to hundreds as has been discussed would be a good thing. That may not make those 40-50 elitists happy, but it should make Americans happy. I'll withhold my judgment to see what actually transpires and if, as you suggest, Trump "moves the press out of his way," I'll be right next to you in expressing outrage.

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 01/20/2017 at 11:33 AM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

I think there were many many out cries over the last 8 years. Many many things were uncovered after the fact and then reported on after the press was lied to. As they have with past admins. Look at the Clinton debacle, the Bengazi debacle as well as the E mail crap. There has been no pass. Those are a big part of why I didnt vote for her. Hell Obama couldnt fart without some reporter saying it stank. I think he has been the most scrutinized President in my lifetime. There should never be a pass for anyone that represents the People of this Country no matter what party a person support's. I didnt vote for Trump simply because he has not shown me hes trust worthy or knows what hes getting into. Now that hes trying to move the press out of his way is just another reason to make me wonder what hes going to be or is hiding. Frankly that should worry every American. But again thats my opinion.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 01/20/2017 at 11:03 AM

Re: “Media to Trump: Game on

Rocky Smith: I agree 100% that transparency is necessary from any administration. Why, then, was there no outcry for the lack of transparency for the last eight years? This doesn't give anyone a pass, but selectively demanding access from one administration, after having given a pass for another because you like him is not the answer. And while I agree that "many of the news programs reported what they were being fed because access to the truth was being hidden," when the truth is hidden, it is the sacred responsibility of the free press to find it and report it with integrity. So, for a press machine to have refused to find and uncover the truth and accept what was handed to them as truth to then suddenly make calls to integrity in reporting is a hollow cry. If it were genuine, it would have not started as no. 45 is sworn in but would have been omnipresent. Yes, access is essential and it must be there. But to expect that any official would welcome false reporting is a ridiculous expectation--no more than it would have been for me at the local level to praise the libelious and lying rhetoric published by the Gazette about me. I still gave them access, but they had no interest in genuine integrity if it it didn't match their agenda and I would certainly feel justified in calling them out for their lack of integrity. That was my right. It should be the right of the President to call out the lack of press integrity.

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 01/20/2017 at 10:06 AM

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