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Re: “CSPD officer under investigation

An investigation? It has been nearly two years. All the while, Walker has been on patrol. This is a new definition of a "beat" cop. How many others were victims of his inability to control himself? How many times did his colleagues corroborate his story by stating that instead of slamming on the face, he "rolled" the perp or "escorted" the perp to the ground? Much is entrusted to the Police by the citizens and much is expected in return--self control is one of the most important.

When was the investigation initiated? I doubt the public will ever see the report. The CSPD is allowed to weigh each IA report in its value for the public's need to know vs. public good when deciding to release. So far "public good" has kept nearly all from release. One might suspect the investigation wasn't even an investigation until the video got "leaked" out (thanks to the Indy) and over 2 million have seen it across the country. There is deafening silence from City government and CSPD leadership. Nobody should be ok with this. Nobody.

It is troubling to see some immediately paint this as a liberal conservative issue. Liberals and conservatives should both have a deep respect for those who put themselves in harm's way day after day for the public. Liberals and conservatives should both also have a high expectation of those who are entrusted with the job. This is an American issue. This shouldn't happen in a free country that an arm of the government can have the freedom to act in this way with impunity. Doesn't matter if you're Ted Cruz or Bernie Sanders. It's un-American. This is an easy issue on which ALL freedom-loving Americans should be in agreement.

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 07/18/2015 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Does CSPD need a citizen advisory board?

K- The Indy's policy on this seems to be, "Where there's smoke, there's fire. Wait, no smoke? Where did we put that smoke?!?"

All I ask is for balanced reporting. I know that will never happen here. So I'm calling them out on it.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/18/2015 at 1:13 PM

Re: “UPDATE: City Council limits communication with media

Pam Zubek prefers the Hillary Clinton email approach over something traceable, accountable and, well, legal.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/18/2015 at 1:10 PM

Re: “UPDATE: City Council limits communication with media

Clara - you have hit the nail on the head. I wonder if these councilmembers would tell a neighbor who would stop to chat with them about a municipal concern in their driveways or over the back fence to "Stop - please send an email to my City account." There are always some things people wish to say "off the record" or just keep confidential and private. No one is suggesting something sinister or illegal. Oh, and don't they claim all personnel issues are exempt from CORA requests anyway? Isn't that what this is really about - avoiding a tough discussion about police accountability?

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Posted by rms on 07/18/2015 at 12:57 PM

Re: “UPDATE: City Council limits communication with media

The problem with Murray and Pico's reasoning, and indeed the city's is this: constitutionally, you are not elected as a businessman. You are elected as a personal citizen who has taken on the responsibility of guiding the society. The idea that you represent an institution to your constituency is flawed. Your primary responsibility is to represent that citizen to the institution. That means you have a personal responsibility to listen to the constituency. You may feel the need to copy the city on all media requests you may receive personally, but I believe you still have an obligation to answer those personal requests.

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Posted by Clara McKenna on 07/18/2015 at 9:32 AM

Re: “Does CSPD need a citizen advisory board?

If there is a problem, now is the time to nip it in the bud. If a problem exists and is ignored, it will fester until our community feels the need to lash out, as happened in Ferguson. Blaming the media, even suppressing the media, will not help avert this inevitable result.

"You're stoking the flames for something you will have to answer for later." So, are you, PacksA9. So are you.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/18/2015 at 12:36 AM

Re: “Confederacy's confusing legacy

lektrikwire, is that the twisted distortion of history that gets taught to White Southern children underneath the banner of the Confederate Battle Flag? If so, good riddance to it.

Those 600,00 casualties were the result of the Civil War, not the cause. The Civil War was started by the South to protect the heinous institution of slavery. Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator, not a tyrant.

I thoroughly enjoyed your simplistic analogy, except the husband's "abuse" consisted of verbally chastising his wife for beating the maid, and the wife's idea of a divorce was to pull out a revolver and start shooting at her husband.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/18/2015 at 12:09 AM

Re: “Suthers: Cops well trained in use of force

"Suthers: Cops well trained in use of force"

^^^ Here's the problem folks ^^^

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Posted by TheStupidPatrol on 07/17/2015 at 10:36 PM

Re: “UPDATE: City Councilor: I trust the cops

Says the white, privileged dude.

Posted by TheStupidPatrol on 07/17/2015 at 10:34 PM

Re: “Bear killed illegally in southwest Springs

It wasn't shot with a gun. It was an arrow. They are looking for an archer.

Posted by Eisenheim on 07/17/2015 at 10:28 PM

Re: “Does CSPD need a citizen advisory board?

Weird. I knew I recognized Tolini's name from somewhere, and sure enough: he was part of the defense team for Officer Joshua Carrier. So, in a way, for me, it's kind of comforting to know that I'm not the only Joshaholic in this town; now if only the Independent had the courage to come out of the closet with their own secret Joshaholism...because the way they're keeping it on the d-low really causes these hard-hitting exposes on cops to smack of disinformation.

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Posted by Spydra 1 on 07/17/2015 at 9:54 PM

Re: “UPDATE: City Council limits communication with media

Well said, Bill. I have never used my personal email for business. Anything that comes in a personal email, I forward to the city email so that everything is on the city system and available for CORA requests.

I will always try to respond to media inquiries.

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Posted by Andres Pico on 07/17/2015 at 9:31 PM

Re: “Case by case

Years ago , cops, who were real men, would have laughed at a nice kid having too much to drink. Today you have this sociopathic violence by these blue maggots. THIS MUST END! When the time comes that these cops can no longer get liability insurance to cover these atrocities...all bets are off! Every man for himself, and that day is fast approaching..when you get these bizarre and highly offensive reports by what has sadly become pathological liars, that he "ESCORTED HER TO THE FLOOR" we are at the point of no return. There isn't an honorable person, with honor and integrity among them. Karma is a wicked equilizer.

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Posted by J.d. Thorne on 07/17/2015 at 9:02 PM

Re: “Case by case

That badged CSPD thug Tyler Walker demonstrated his lack of judgement and lack of self-control. This is evidenced by the fact that he claimed to have injured himself while performing a spectacular professional wrestling move on a defenseless (handcuffed), much smaller person. It's thus totally clear that he went overboard. Plus, you can even see him gesticulating, right after he'd caused serious injury and permanent harm to a young woman in his custody, in an apparent attempt to rationalize his unjustifiable, totally unprofessional behavior.

When one wears a uniform, one's actions reflect on all those who wear the same uniform. We respect law enforcement officers -- all of them -- a little bit more when one of them does something heroic, something far above and beyond the call of duty, something that each of us wonders how anyone could be so good and so great and so caring and so selfless.

But the converse is also true: just as respect can be earned, so can disrespect be earned, and for all those on the same team in the same uniform...

So I don't know which is more apalling, the violent physical behavior of CSPD thug Tyler Walker, or the fact the CSPD sat on this video for 6 months before starting an IAD investigation and then, a year later, there is still no resolution, with violent thug Tyler Walker not only at large and free to abuse again, but to do so on the public dole.

It says on the fender of CSPD cars something about safeguarding the community as our families. Does that mean that Walker is the equivalent of a wife-beater? Does the CSPD hire and harbor wife-beaters?

Walker should have been canned looooong ago. He probably has little future as a professional wrestler (he's too violent, too destructive, and not big enough), but that does seem to be how he sees, or at least saw, himself...

For the first few days, every time KRDO TV 13 aired the video (they re-air their slanted infobiz productions continuously), they included video which showed thug Walker brutishly shoving the young woman down hard into a hard chair, but their narrative never mentioned that, as if the woman's feisty reaction was to nothing at all. (I wonder if [m]any 'viewers' are ever taken in by KRDO's yellow journalism?)

New rookie mayor John Suthers' time in office had been getting off to a pretty good start. Given John's background in the so-called justice system, the Mayor needs to speak up and speak out and act forcefully and decisively, and very soon, or he will be seen as ruling in, if not hell, a community whose self-rule beyond-the-Constitution ways are enforced by jack-booted thugs who see themselves as being [above] the law, and which deserves no better.

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Posted by corrupt establishment observer on 07/17/2015 at 8:55 PM

Re: “Case by case

He is a tyrant who cannot handle being put in a position of authority. He is not responsible and mature enough to handle the power. Her actions were immature, but absolutely no justification for his unnecessary use of force. SHE WAS IN HANDCUFFS! Fire him, book him for assault, file a civil suit, send him to jail, make him pay her medical bills. I'm sure she has learned her lesson after all she's been through... she is now labeled a 'felon' forever due to her record and her plea deal. But he has not learned a thing. He must be held accountable. He is a danger to civilians and must not retain a badge. He has no self control.

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Posted by RealistinGE on 07/17/2015 at 8:27 PM

Re: “UPDATE: City Council limits communication with media

In order to insure that the public has the transparency it deserves, the message "will not", was suppose to be "should not". A CORA request would not have gathered all the answers supplied if it was not entered on the city's systems. The Council was elected to serve the people. The people passed the Colorado Open Records Act (CORA). The Council is expected to answer these questions on the systems provided, provided the questions are requested on the system and not elsewhere. These issues are not complex. Most businesses would never allow use of a personal email to respond to company business. And neither should the City Council!

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Posted by wpmurrayIII on 07/17/2015 at 8:24 PM

Re: “Coy Mathis, gun rights and Tosches on Magpul

Larrimore Nicholl...where even to begin? I can't imagine the hurt and insult your who-cares comment inflicted on any one of the boys and families whose paths had the misfortune of crossing with Carrier's.

Wouldn't it be nice if you were king of the country and pope of the church that considered what Carrier did to those boys mere minor attraction, but would prosecute and punish Coy's having to use the boy's bathroom as a major crime?

Verily, m'Lord, you'd provide perfect leadership for Upisdowningham...but I wouldn't want to live there, much less vacation there with the family.

Posted by Spydra 1 on 07/17/2015 at 7:56 PM

Re: “Case by case

The girl kicked upward and hit the clipboard not the cop , looked like it was a reaction to being slammed into the chair in the first place, The girl was drunk when the cops came into the apartment she was in , she was not wanted , but the guy she was with was , (what was he wanted for . a misdemeanor or felony ) Just because she was drunk and voiced her opinion of the police procedures, The reason they were there ( a gun ) was not found , why not just leave since there was no gun and no narcotics , I assume they ran everyone , which wasn't necessary being as the reason for their call was false , They should have just packed up and left . I think this going to be extremely costly to the folks that pay the taxes that support these idiots with badges , I bet the cop as bulled in school , usually they are the ones that end up abusing the helpless of the community and the world, Don't believe me , look at what's sitting in the White House and judge for yourself !

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Posted by Jerry Mann on 07/17/2015 at 7:13 PM

Re: “Case by case

Packs his lunch,what,the gazette pay you to troll here now,jeffy?

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Posted by delete! on 07/17/2015 at 7:03 PM

Re: “Case by case

Cops like him gives all of them , even toe good compassionate ones a bad name , that cop that smashed that little girls face needs his a$$ kicked then fired , then charged with assault on a helpless person , then we can see how he fares when he is locked up with probably a lot of people he did the same sh1T with , see how he fares when the other person isn't cuffed !!

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Posted by Jerry Mann on 07/17/2015 at 7:02 PM

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