Odin, you did a lot of dancing around the issue and backpedaling, but you explained nothing, and you certainly never proved anything, much less that I am wrong.
"Judging the actions of those in a position to effect policy in the 1780s by the 'enlightened' opinions of those in 2017 is not helpful." Except that I am the one describing the opinions of the 1780's and you are the one attributing to them the enlightened opinions.
If the Founders truly "generally recognized humanity of the slaves" then why did the South institute segregation after losing the War Between the States?
Hi Stacy! That's really great and detailed reporting. I'd love to write like that. So I can understand the whole deal.
I guess part of my issue is getting the channels I want and such but yes- those bundle and THOSE CONTRACTS!
But I do get it and it's a tough argument though it sounds like you went the way of the Antenna more so. Nothing wrong with that. I like what you wrote as I feel about the same.
Me- I live my Netflix, Amazon Prime (it makes sense for me as I order so much online), etc.
Thank you kindly for a great comment. I really enjoyed it and I like hearing from other corners. That's pricey on the electric. I wonder if it's not something I could help with? Either wayI thank you for your input as I am sure others di. You are speaking at a level that I do normally.
Do reach out to me if you have some area that perhaps I can give an educated opinion on. Kinda been there, done that- ya know? Take care!
Did the cut the cable thing in 2008. Lived in Woodland Park. Got a broadband antenna installed from Peak Internet for $30 a month, streamed Netflix, Hulu and Cracker very well but occaisional buffering. Went to OEM parts and bought two Winegard antannae. Pointed one at Denver and one at Colorado Springs. Used R6 coaxial from Balun to receivers with Radio Shack signal booster (110 volt). In 2008 we were getting 58 stations. Mind you some were double i.e. two ABC,NBC,CBS stations, but some Indys like ION, MyTV and CW had a lot of good old shows.It was very functional. Now back in the Springs and I just don't feel the need to set that up again. Got Xfinity in three rooms and 256 internet for 130 a month. Sounds pricey until you realize that my electric bill went from $300 to $140 between Woodland Park and the Springs. My electric bill savings payes for my cable/internet with a couple bucks left over. Black Hills Energy sucks and you guys should be grateful for Colorado Springs Utilities, I know I am.
"The northern states (not being agricultural)..." Where did you come up with that? One of main blocs in the abolitionist movement was the Northern farmer, who felt that the south's use of slaves gave them an unfair competitive advantage. Do you know that Connecticut is a major grower of tobacco?
The fact that the founders and abolitionists opposed slavery does not prove they considered the slaves to be human. Just take a look at the animal rights movement. The members may believe that animals are subject to unspeakable cruelty, but none of them believes that a cow, or a horse, or a dog, are human. Likewise, abolitionists observed the unspeakable cruelty that slaves were subjected to, but that does not mean they believed that Blacks were capable of logical thinking or behaving like civilized people.
"My point is that the same arguments and logic can be used to evaluate Planned Parenthood. "
And as I explained, you are wrong.
Hi Friend, in regards to the C Springs Council- with the latest ballot measure passing it actually could help us out. I agree that it's sad the control the monopolies have.
It's why we ALL PAY TOO MUCH. I am right with you.
Oh thanks to Gene also. I would have added that into my article but space it tight believe it or not. That's very useful!
I will be touching on that very soon and probably next article. Thanks for your readership!
Slaves WERE considered human by the Founders as well as others, primarily abolitionists, who were opposed to slavery. That was the core root of the moral dilemma - the generally recognized humanity of the slaves vs the need for slaves to maintain the plantation economic system in the south. The northern states (not being agricultural) didn't need slave labor and were the first to free their slaves. The Founders priority in the 1780s was to create a unified nation, one strong enough to defend itself against foreign interests (Britain, France, and Spain). To do so meant that the moral issue of slavery was put on the back burner, to be dealt with later. Judging the actions of those in a position to effect policy in the 1780s by the "enlightened" opinions of those in 2017 is not helpful.
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Cool story! What are the chances the replacement will last as long?
to me in csprings area we get nada in return.here folks the city council and the el paso commishes own the francise !! and i and other cannot cone to bat to get more frpm falcon bb.or porchy light .why is soo hard there with this so called council here.in calgary ab they have a whoppin 4 to 5 companies
doin there thing Why CANT WE PEOPLE !?
Here are some way to find internet providers.
All we ask of our Supreme Court Justices is that they uphold the laws of the United States. If you don't like the law, take it up with your members of Congress.
I never said that Odin was wrong in his analysis of the founding of America. My point is that the same arguments and logic can be used to evaluate Planned Parenthood. Just replace every occurrence of the word "slavery" in Odin's last message--his defense of America-- with the word "eugenics" and it becomes a defense of Planned Parenthood.
Furthermore, the belief that "All men are created equal" did not include slaves as they were not considered human even by those opposed to slavery.
We went back to Amanda's Fonda a couple months ago... very disappointed.
The quality has dropped dramatically. You could taste that the spinach enchiladas used Campbell's cream of mushroom soup.
Now that Quijote's is fantastic, consistent, and well-portioned.
Don't forget Third Space Coffee up at Vickers and Academy!
Trump is scum. It's all big money. Thankfully it sounds we have more options than you do in the Springs. We worry that the monopolies will trample on us. Just a few of us in an apartment here and we can barely afford this mess and we run out of data. I guess we best get a better social life. Still b.s.
Time we find other ways to get what we need. I've been to Tokyo and they have gigabit broadband for cheap and unlimited. Why is it so backwards in this country?
Can we discuss the other avenues? I'd like to get Netflix and such without my darn cable tv! It's getting pricey for a college kid. Thanks though- I do like the idea of getting away from cable as do my roommates.
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