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Re: “UPDATE: Gaebler considering bid for Colorado Springs City Council president

The development community took a big hit on the 4th. Will bet a 5th on the 18th that council will retain a weak president who will follow orders.

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Posted by R Wehner on 04/09/2017 at 9:34 AM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

Odin is correct re American history. Agreeing on a Constitution that would bind the north and south states into a union - with a Federal govt having certain powers over the states - was an extraordinarily difficult task. Most northerners and many of the southern planters were morally opposed to slavery and yet they managed to create a govt in support of their belief that "All men are created equal". But since the south was dependent on slave labor for their tobacco crops, the divisive issue of slavery was postponed for the next generation to resolve.

The books I've recently read about the Revolutionary Generation show how difficult it was to reach a compromise - and without compromise, there would have been no United States of America. That our republican govt has lasted for 200 plus years without evolving into a dictatorship (which was the great fear of the Founders) is a stunning accomplishment.

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Posted by curious on 04/09/2017 at 9:10 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Gaebler considering bid for Colorado Springs City Council president

I was speaking to the matter of Mrs. Gaebler not having the support on council to be chosen as President. I think it really is a choice between Mr. Bennett and Mr. Skorman. The mayor and chief of staff will be offering deals to entice council members to keep Mr. Bennett as President. They need a 'Yes' man. These decisions are basically made at Plaza of the Rockies!

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 04/09/2017 at 3:10 AM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

You have addressed slavery in your analysis of our Founding Fathers, but you ignored the proposition that Blacks were considered to be sub-human even by those enlightened souls who railed the loudest against slavery. Had they believed the slaves to be fully human, how could they ever compromise?

But you are correct. My analogy is imperfect because the mission of Planned Parenthood was never to sterilize anybody in the first place, so the organization did not need to change very much over the years, unlike our nation.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 04/09/2017 at 2:14 AM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

You can call me dumb all day long and LOL until your sides split, but that does not prove your contentions. Proof requires evidence.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 04/09/2017 at 1:39 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Gaebler considering bid for Colorado Springs City Council president

Are you speaking of the necessity of a run off if the candidates for Mayor receive under 50%?

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Posted by What's the Word? on 04/08/2017 at 7:23 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Gaebler considering bid for Colorado Springs City Council president

Doesn't it take more than just one vote to be selected as President of Council?

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 04/08/2017 at 6:48 PM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

Oh, and just an FYI, but when our nation was founded, a heck of a lot of people thought slavery was wrong and advocated doing away with it. It was allowed as a compromise with the goal of eventually eliminating it. It remains a very dark stain on our history and the repercussions of which we are still dealing with today. So trying to compare to PP's founding pretty well backfires on you.

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Posted by Odin on 04/08/2017 at 1:01 PM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

Are you really that dumb as to think all that money goes to cervical cancer screenings? LOL... OK then, could I interest you in a bridge?

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Posted by Odin on 04/08/2017 at 12:56 PM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

"Makes one wonder what they are doing with all that federal money they get which cannot legally be spent on abortions."

You told us the answer to that question earlier in your message: cervical cancer screening. Don't you read your own messages?

By the way, "most tests for cervical cancer are sent to 3rd party lab companies..." Is there something morally wrong or criminal about sending samples to outside labs for analysis, because my doctors do this all the time.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 04/07/2017 at 7:51 PM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

"A company which was founded by a proponent of eugenics who thought minorities, especially blacks, and people with mental disabilities should be sterilized."

We live in a nation which was founded by proponents of slavery who thought blacks were not members of the human species. Obviously, organizations can change over time.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 04/07/2017 at 7:38 PM

Re: “Planned Parenthood exec: Gorsuch is a poor choice

Hmmm... a 1.3 billion dollar private company which gets more than 1/3rd of its funding from the federal government? A "health care" company which really only provides one type of health care other than abortions in that it will gather samples for cervical cancer screening (they do NOT provide mammograms, they will only give a referral, and most tests for cervical cancer are sent to 3rd party lab companies). The only "planning" of parenthood they do is abortions, almost none of their facilities do any kind of pre-natal care and they do absolutely NO fertility related care. A company which was founded by a proponent of eugenics who thought minorities, especially blacks, and people with mental disabilities should be sterilized. Makes one wonder what they are doing with all that federal money they get which cannot legally be spent on abortions.

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Posted by Odin on 04/07/2017 at 3:46 PM

Re: “Doug Lamborn faces new GOP challenger in Owen Hill

One can only hope. Lamborn had his time; it's past time for some new blood and representation.

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Posted by mbomcar on 04/07/2017 at 2:29 PM

Re: “Gaebler, Skorman, Knight, Pico win easily in Council races; Avila pulls surprise

leloupe ..... Colorado Springs is behind and at odds with Denver and Boulder. That's always been true. One can't help but wonder if that's related, in part, to the fact that the Broadmoor Hotel has always played an overweighted part in CS politics. And when I say Broadmoor, that includes El Pomar. I was recently told by a person familiar with the political scene here (for decades) that, "Nothing happens in Colorado Springs without the blessing of El Pomar."
If this has been going on for a long time then perhaps we should thank Mr. Anschutz for his bold and brazen attempts to run this city. At least we can see what he's up to. And fight back.

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Posted by Mur on 04/07/2017 at 11:34 AM

Re: “Memorial Hospital North set to grow

This UC Health monster continues to grow.

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Posted by UCanSeeClearlyNow on 04/06/2017 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Gaebler, Skorman, Knight, Pico win easily in Council races; Avila pulls surprise

Boulder and Denver economy are surging, not so in Co springs. thanks to Bruce types who are slowly dying off we hope.

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Posted by apathetic on 04/06/2017 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Gaebler, Skorman, Knight, Pico win easily in Council races; Avila pulls surprise

Old Crank, I find the retired military community to be diverse in viewpoints and outlooks, not a monolith. However, Knight and Pico seem to represent one part of the culture, that is, a mindset that actively discourages experimentation and trying new ideas. This mindset might be useful in a military context, but it makes our city less competitive, and damages the 'brand'. Those people who are willing to take risks with business, art, etc. see that mindset and look to places that are more dynamic.

I do agree that our elite evangelicals damaged the 'brand', but I see that slowly starting to fade, partly because recreational marijuana has stolen the headlines. Yet, our bizarrely stubborn and pointless official viewpoint on this does nothing but reinforce perceptions that our community is run by well meaning, but smugly dated fathers (and mothers). I do find it common to run into cloyingly sincere bible studies in coffee shops north of Woodmen, but overall, our evangelical elites seem to have moderated somewhat.

Maybe I missed it, but I have not heard any of our leaders or political elite reflect on why Google and Amazon have offices in Broomfield, why Boulder is a leader in entrepreneurship, or why construction in downtown Denver is still on a tear (and it poached the BP headquarters from Houston!). Look at the comments on recent election results here and the Anschutz daily - sadly provincial comments about the new council making C. Springs like Boulder, as if that were remotely possible. Our power elite don't seem to look and ask "What are those cities doing right?" and seeing if we can adapt those successes to our community. Their biggest concern is gaming the federal budget for more military spending and building single family homes on the backs of current rate/tax payers. Meanwhile, our poor business writers have to gin up excitement about call centers.

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Posted by leloupe on 04/06/2017 at 10:24 AM

Re: “Gaebler, Skorman, Knight, Pico win easily in Council races; Avila pulls surprise

well maybe this time they will get it right..........here's to hoping!!!

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Posted by Jay Whynotaskme on 04/05/2017 at 11:59 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs faces lawsuit over out-sourced fleet maintenance contract

The cost savings the city was looking for was not in current operations, but in shedding "costly pension obligations" that will come due in the future.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 04/05/2017 at 11:05 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs faces lawsuit over out-sourced fleet maintenance contract

It is illegal for Colorado Springs municipal employees to form a union. Also Colorado State employees are not allowed to form a union.

However, I agree that it was a huge mistake to dismantle Fleet and downsize many other municipal departments claiming it would save money. That just hasn't happened. Quality of and response times also suffer.

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Posted by rms on 04/05/2017 at 7:00 PM

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