PacksA9, did you just visit Portland and San Francisco as a tourist?--or, did you actually live there for any length of time?
New York City is not a fair comparison. Yes, it does have some of the highest taxes in the nation, but the city is rich beyond belief, and most of the money collected by the state and federal governments go to fund the rest of New York State and the rest of the nation. New York City only gets a small piece of what it collects.
The questions is really how can we fix our potholes and problems when New York City who always had some of the highest taxes in the country has potholes everywhere and constant traffic as well as smelly trash on the street every night. we try to compare ourselves to others when sometime the answer is to be creative and try something completely new that has colorado springs written all over it
AS long as guns are available to any nut case in the Country yes your right they will get them. For every person that walked out of a shooting and said "GEE" if some good guy had a gun we could have done something. What? Most had no idea what to do but PANIC and still would even with a gun in there hand. Did you also know and backed by science and experience that most that decide to pull mass killings go into it expecting to kill themselves. Most have left notes or told someone there intention. So facing a good guy has got little to do with it. Same old argument yet still no solution other then "KILL THEM ALL" Yep really is and has worked well and again for some reason the modern day Matt Dillon has yet to be found. Reality check Hundreds running in every direction six are holding guns. Whos the bad guy? Who do you fire at? If wrong and you kill an innocent. Should you be charged? Yes I agree we each have a right and moral obligation to protect ourselves, our loved ones and those weaker. But no running around in public venue ready to throw lead at any and all. I got a problem with that. No mister packa 9 we need not argue the same old crap we need not read the same old crap on the web. What we need is solutions. Any real ideas? I Got nothing. I want to be able to protect I want all Americans to have that right but I dont want every nut case and his stupid buddy to have access to every firearm known to man.
Rocky - Private businesses like Sky Sox are perfectly within their right to declare their premises as gun free zones. The more immediate question that must be answered is:
Should bad guy ignore that declaration and open fire, WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE to deal with him/her?
Your answer is "Best thing to do is hit the ground cover your kid wife or whoever it is your protecting and pray the storm runs out" Ok, let's ask these people how that worked out for them:
- Suzanna Hupp - http://bit.ly/1dN0BQl
- Stephane Charbonnier - http://bit.ly/1KUTP80
- Sylvia Frasier - http://cbsloc.al/1G85JVV
Your life saving recommendation sits right up there with that expert in active shooter defense, Joe Biden - http://bit.ly/1KPPpkt
Did you know that in total more people are murdered by...
- bladed weapons (knives, axes, etc)
- body parts (fists, head butts, etc)
- blunt objects (bats, hammers, etc)
... than by firearms? http://bit.ly/1J5nebr
If your vision of gun control is so effective, please explain the gun murder stats from gun control meccas like Chicago, Wash DC, LA, etc.
Did you also know that once confronted by a good guy with a gun, many active shooters turn their guns on themselves? http://bit.ly/1G883vR
At the risk of pissing you off, the moral of your story is:
No matter how much you legislate and regulate, bad guys will find inventive ways to try to kill you. The ONLY defense that has a chance of working is the one Chuck De Caro used to protect his wife- http://fxn.ws/1HMrL5O
My turn to piss off all you who think your going to protect all those poor unfortunate folk in a crowded stadium, theater, church or wherever. First off the Lady that stopped the guy at New Life was law enforcement and got him in the parking lot before engagement. And she lost her job over it. Now say you got four or five fellas with guns in a stadium one shoots off a round people panic then the others start shooting at one that they thought had starting the shooting. How do you know? You may have just shot someone thats doing what your doing trying to protect or defend themselves or others. You may have just shot some poor fella that was protecting his kid because he saw you with a gun. Now think about a stadium filled with people hundreds if not thousands screaming, running, trampling over each other trying to get away. Who are you going to target? THATS WHY they dont want you to bring your gun to a PUBLIC venue. Best thing to do is hit the ground cover your kid wife or whoever it is your protecting and pray the storm runs out. Keep your guns to yourself stay home and protect your castle Im all for that. But dont think your going to do the right thing by bringing it to a theater you may shoot the wrong person or you may get shot by some fella that thought you was the fool. Now one more time and try to answer it this time. What do you think should be done to keep firearms out of the hands of the idiots? You dont want background checks you dont want regulations. WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE be done to keep fools from killing innocent people with firearms in public places? And by the way you want Freedom well dont the owners of those places deserve the freedom to ban them from there place.
John, you really should rename your column 'SSDD'.
Even you are smart enough to know how to solve your woes in a matter of hours. You pack your stuff and move to Boulder. Or Portland. Or San Fran. There are any number of liberal cesspools that would make you happy.
But then, what would you have to complain about? You seem to prefer living a miserable life as a helpless victim than actually doing something to improve your lot.
The sales tax increase is only a single possibility and yet it seems to be the only one that is being seriously considered. This region is facing more than one critical funding issue and if the past 40 years has taught us anything it should be that sales tax revenue is not the most dependable revenue source for things like infrastructure which need sustainable funding not just a short term solution.
From Mr. Hazlehurst's view as a veteran 'Sage' with an historical view of the city:
"It's easy to blame our dysfunction upon the 25 percenters, the obdurate Bruceites who oppose any initiative that might increase taxes or grow government."
How important will it be to the future of the region to "Fund the Future" and deal with years worth of backlogged infrastructure needs? With what information is currently available as to detail on the Mayor's tentative proposal for a sales tax increase, do you feel inclined to support or oppose this measure? A two minute 'Quick Poll' is available at the link below to register your thoughts. These polls are a citizen-driven volunteer effort and those who have taken time to participate are greatly appreciated! Thank you.
One addition to the advocates of 1992, Regina Dipadova and El Paso County Health Department, founder and supporter of Inside/Out Youth Services since 1991.
Would have appreciated mention of her coach, Kevin Branford.
I do not know about so-called "leftist progressives in general" but I do know that revolutionary communists are in total agreement with Alexander Hamilton.
asawatcher- The Obama presidency, leftist progressives in general and misinformed people like you are exactly why the prescient Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist 29:
"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
You have no clue regarding the 2nd Amendment.
Bravo John Howell. I would add, had there been a 2nd Amendment patriot exercising his or her legal right to carry, the lunatic Roof might not have murdered so many innocent Americans.
"I’m of the notion that when the founders who wrote the Constitution used the word “necessary” (the only use of that word in the entire document) they actually thought that what was “necessary” was actually something important." -- asawatcher
Please note the term "necessary" is used in regards to "A well regulated militia", not in regards to "the right of the people to keep and bear arms".
"You, Mr Wyman, are not the final arbiter of Constitutional understanding."
We the people trump even the Supreme Court in that regard.
Mr. Wyman writes:
“It does get tiresome trying to explain to those types their follies. The 2nd Amendment: You can explain it to them but you cannot understand it for them.”
I’m of the notion that when the founders who wrote the Constitution used the word “necessary” (the only use of that word in the entire document) they actually thought that what was “necessary” was actually something important. Many Americans “understand” that what was “necessary” then is no longer “necessary” today. Many Americans “understand” that the Second Amendment was written more than 200 years ago, for a variety of reasons no longer relevant in twenty-first century America. Many also “understand” that the proliferation of weapons has resulted in the increasingly abusive use of those weapons. Denial of that simple fact by those who advocate for that proliferation is what a lot of Americans don’t “understand”. And that is also quite “tiresome”.
You, Mr Wyman, are not the final arbiter of Constitutional understanding.
John Howell! You said it best! Thank you for taking time to write. It does get tiresome trying to explain to those types their follies. The 2nd Amendment: You can explain it to them but you cannot understand it for them.
Then followed by "The Idiot of the Week" Glenn Perry! Take a bow Glenn for suggesting mental health evaluations. Lets have everyone be tested. You go first Glenn, then an IQ test too. I will give up my firearm if you score triple digits in the IQ test.
And Kenton Lloyd, hats off to you for your suggestion about bus service. Denver has done it this way for years and the buses are used and useful. The cockamamie system here must have been designed by a monkey in a room with a map and a marker pen. (Glenn Perry's arch nemesis).
Finally, James M. Hesser! If you want to pay more tax then by all means pay more. Pay out your fat butt. Mr. Bruce did no harm to Colorado Springs. The death knell for this city and what made it a laughing stock is Focus on the Family. Plain and simple. No businesses want to move here and the road situation does not help. Pay more tax for road repair(?) something that should be in the budget already! Get real and wake up. $275 million in revenue the city rakes in, where does it go? $1.6 million a year to USOC for 30 years to stay. Fiscal genius? The CSPD with over 800 employees gets a large share and right behind them with 19 employees is the office of the Mayor! Doug Bruce did not do this. He made some politicos angry and wound up in jail. He rocked the boat. He is not a butt-kisser like you Hesser. Sorry but I call em like they are. If every US citizen paid the actual tax they owed this year the national deficit would almost be paid off.
These are facts and that is something The Indy does not deal in too often. Prove me wrong.
Accept equal marriage and move on. Stop the claims of legal loopholes. Quit twisting the wording and intent of future legislation meant to fracture equality. It is so frustrating and stagnant when civil rights win and yet some continue to battle against progress.
No, I never thought I'd see this day come to pass in my lifetime and I'm a kid of the '60s.
Yes, it would be nice if Colorado Springs could evolve to be inclusive of all its people that live here, and put all this nastiness behind us so we can grow and increase our employment opportunities with new businesses coming to our more friendly community.
Thank you Tim for the wonderful article and for capturing the energy of the day in your words and images.
It was a damn good morning to be on a bike and I predict that it's going to get even better!
Pedal On ~ Allen
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