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Re: “Seceding from the Springs

Of course, if there was more political involvement of progressive minded folks, the balance of power can shift as the Springs is now. Higher voter turnout typically leads to left leaning candidates and initiatives winning elections.

A few wins in the right direction can lead to a larger long term shift.

Posted by Andrew Barilla on 04/17/2015 at 11:22 PM

Re: “Seceding from the Springs

I love it! Most people who live east of Academy and north of Woodman never leave their land of forever strip malls anyway. Most metropolitan areas this size are composed of multiple cities. The priorities and demographics of this city are split in two, so we should formalize the separation. They can have their TABOR that kills our infrastructure, and we can have transform our core into the collection of walkable / bikable neighborhoods that promote the community most of us want.

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Posted by dp72 on 04/17/2015 at 8:21 AM

Re: “Seceding from the Springs

Would be a lot easier if we sent a delegation of local gays and realtors to SF, CA to recruit 25,000 GLBT folks to move here and change the political balance of power. I'm sure they're tired of paying $1000 per sq ft for a tiny abode in a crowded city. Once they see our low home prices and lack of traffic there will be a land rush for here. As the balance of power changes we can get rid of Doug Lamborn and TABOR, et al. The daily picketing of FOTF will drive that bunch out of here and on to TX where their true believers will welcome them by waving guns and bibles as the wagon train of FOTF expats arrive in their conestoga wagons.

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Posted by OldCrank on 04/16/2015 at 9:18 PM

Re: “Seceding from the Springs

Contrary to popular opinion, there are lots of young, hip, conservative, suburbanites enjoying their low-priced, energy-efficient housing options in good school districts, who care very deeply about the city, are supportive of infrastructure and responsible development, aren't tax averse when it's responsible and are highly supportive of diverse leadership and innovation.

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Posted by Adrienne Brown Tuck on 04/16/2015 at 1:19 PM

Re: “'John-shaming,' voter turnout, Helen Collins, and more

I too want to know WHO spent $65K to recall Collins. The recall failed, but the WHOs are not giving up. WHO is Govt Watch? It's probable that Jenkins and Anschutz are 2 of the WHOs. How about asking them if they paid all or some of the $65K?. Is John Suthers, one of the City Leaders, also one of the WHOs?

The WHOs are determined to get rid of councilor Collins because she, unlike certain of her colleagues on the council, is not a puppet of City Leaders. Jenkins and other City Leaders want to convert the URA and downtown into a thicket of skyscrapers so that COS will look like Denver. To accomplish this goal City Leaders will build a stadium, remove Drake and its coal trains, and use eminent domain to take property. Vocal opponents, such as Collins, stand in their way. City Leaders intend to fill the council with their allies. And though Collins is a minority voice, City Leaders want to silence her. There is something rotten in COS - the offense is rank, it smells to heaven. The Indy could perform a genuine civic service by exposing the political machinations now concealed behind the curtain of secrecy.

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Posted by curious on 04/16/2015 at 10:29 AM

Re: “Change in the air around Fort Carson

The Army is environmentally conscious. Plus the Army has a Land Rehabilitation Program imbedded with it’s Integrated Training Area Management. I see more physical damage by 4x4s and wood getters.

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Posted by Jim Sweatman on 04/15/2015 at 9:55 PM

Re: “Seceding from the Springs

Maybe the new blood on the Council will be able to get a couple of initiatives passed before the Old Guard shuts them down. There is a short honeymoon period when new ideas are welcomed even encouraged. The last time last honeymoon produced the Community Solar Garden Tariff that started SunShare into business in the Springs.

Unfortunately, SunShare moved to Denver when the present council reduced the renewable energy budget for CSG from $10M to $2M.

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Posted by Solar Sam on 04/15/2015 at 4:41 PM

Re: “'John-shaming,' voter turnout, Helen Collins, and more

"Uber-liberal Pueblo has experienced far more sluggish growth than the Springs..."

The most recent article I could turn up in a cursory search of the internet is dated March 2014. According to a "report from Colorado State University’s Regional Economics Institute (REI)... Colorado Springs... has 7,400 fewer jobs (a 2.8% decrease)... than pre-recession levels." (…)

There is no mention of Pueblo in this article, possibly because they "suffered lighter job losses in the downturn than much of the rest of the state..." and recovered all of the jobs lost by the end of 2011, according to an internet article dated January 2012. (

By the way, I have never before heard Pueblo called "uber-liberal" but as of March 2014, "Fort Collins-Loveland (4.3%) and Boulder (3.4%) have shown the largest job increases..."

" you ignore realities that don't fit your prejudicial narrative?" Really!

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 04/15/2015 at 1:08 PM

Re: “Challenging our new leaders


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Posted by Mia715 on 04/15/2015 at 12:41 PM

Re: “Seceding from the Springs

Sign me up!

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Posted by Andrew Barilla on 04/15/2015 at 9:52 AM

Re: “'John-shaming,' voter turnout, Helen Collins, and more

"In actual fact, we are the only town in Colorado that has not enjoyed a healthy recovery since the recession." - Really? Uber-liberal Pueblo has experienced far more sluggish growth than the Springs, or do you ignore realities that don't fit your prejudicial narrative?

I understand that you're desperately trying to smear the Anschutz family and the local daily in one fell swoop, but "in actual fact", Suthers received twice as many votes as Ms. Makepeace, making him the obvious choice for mayoral office, irregardless of any media support.

"There is nothing subtle about his influence in this town, from the invasion into Bear Creek Park" - Care to elaborate?

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Posted by Jeff Faltz on 04/15/2015 at 9:05 AM

Re: “'Fluff' news, safe and clean parks, pot and the press, and more

Dear Father Carmody,

I recently read your letter in the Colorado Springs Independent. I believe you are out of touch with church policy and teachings. This letter shows deep-rooted prejudice and irresponsible behavior unbecoming of a representative of the church
I have never read a more disrespectful, ill-conceived, unchristian letter. How dare you, especially as someone with the ironic title of "Respect Life Director", compare homosexuals with the Ku Klux Klan.
Ignoring, as you did, the fact that the pizza parlor owner used language almost exactly the same as the anti-catholic rhetoric you claimed your grandfather was a victim.

He, the owner-Kevin O'Connor, stated: "That lifestyle is something they choose. I choose to be heterosexual. They choose to be homosexual. Why should I be beat over the head to go along with something they choose?"

If he chose to be heterosexual, it makes me wonder what he was before, and how this choice was made available to him. No one else seems to have been given the option. Did you chose to be heterosexual, male, Catholic? I am heterosexual, no choice was made available to me.
He used the fear of retaliation by persons unknown to play victim and used the publicity to collect over $830,000 in donations from people who thought the threats were real (no evidence exists they ever received any credible threat) and some believed their pizza parlor had actually been burned down. If there is a modern day KKK, it is the ultra self-righteous pseudo-christians that condemn people for loving each other, a group in which you are now a charter member. Catholic Church policy states that while homosexuality is considered immoral, every homosexual person should be treated with respect and love.

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Posted by rangesaf on 04/10/2015 at 8:19 PM

Re: “April Fools, climate same, looking ugly, and more

"bv is confused and doesn't understand the issue"

bv sees no evidence of CAGW. if you do, illuminate him.
bv spends way too much time reading up on the issue, and would like to be free to do other things.

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Posted by bv on 04/10/2015 at 12:38 PM

Re: “'Fluff' news, safe and clean parks, pot and the press, and more

Re Phil Stahl letter:
"a full 96.2 percent concur that temperatures have steadily risen, and there is no evidence for cooling. Meanwhile, 97.4 percent concur there is a definite role of humans in climate change."
Your accuracy is disturbing. The numbers are closer to 100% - no one is debating rising temps nor whether humans have some impact.

The question is 'How much?'

A letter full of conflation gets us no closer to the answer.

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Posted by bv on 04/10/2015 at 11:40 AM

Re: “'Fluff' news, safe and clean parks, pot and the press, and more

What is truly ironic, and more than just a little bit hypocritical, is the "Respect Life Director" presuming to lecture others on tolerance and civility. The movement he belongs to has not only threatened life and property, it has successfully carried out its threats to murder, bomb, and burn, in its own efforts to "squash people who disagree with their ideas."

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 04/08/2015 at 4:59 PM

Re: “'Fluff' news, safe and clean parks, pot and the press, and more

Gregory Olinyk Guest
Rank 50

A multi-part question for the candidates, the answer to which will likely never see the light of day. But first a little background info:

Our City Council is being asked to work 40-50 hours per week to govern a $250 million city budget plus a debt-ridden, $1.08 Billion dollar, Colorado Springs Utilities (“CSU”) operation. At a salary of $6,000 per year how can we ever attract true experts onto the Utilities board, which our Council members also govern? How can we attract “youth” onto the City Council if they cannot earn a living and support a family?

Even in this tough economic environment doesn’t it seem wise to spend what would amount to ½ of 1% of our current $250 million budget or $1,250,000 ($100,000 per council member and $50,000 for one staffer each) to protect a Billion dollar operation? After all, we pay CSU’s CEO $250,000+ only to be stuck with a $120 million yet-to-be-proven pollution scrubber.

Would you support this? If not would you be willing to reduce your salary to their level?

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Posted by GregO73 on 04/08/2015 at 1:53 PM

Re: “'Fluff' news, safe and clean parks, pot and the press, and more

Mr. Carmody: They're not trying "to squash people who disagree with their ideas," rather to be treated as humans who should get the same service as everyone else, regardless of the beliefs of whoever owns the business. You've got the KKK analogy exactly backwards; the KKK also denied service to some types of humans and went to the extreme of denying those types the right to live. Christians similarly attack those who are LGBT.

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Posted by scubafox on 04/08/2015 at 1:46 PM

Re: “'Fluff' news, safe and clean parks, pot and the press, and more

John Wark's letter of denial is one to which I also objected. Here's mine:
At current emissions rates, CO2 is released into the atmosphere nearly twice as fast as it’s removed. Our "atmospheric bathtub" is filling with CO2. We must stop and reverse this because, at current CO2 levels, more energy is absorbed from the sun than is emitted back into space. That's why the planet is warming and regional climates are changing! To prevent further warming we must cut CO2 emissions at least in half, not just halt increases. Despite flawed "common sense" thinking used by global warming deniers, global warming is an existential threat to life on earth. Billions will die, more species extinct. The physics of the system tells us that waiting for "direct, incontrovertible" proof sufficient to convince deniers is not an option. More on this:…

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Posted by scubafox on 04/08/2015 at 1:38 PM

Re: “April Fools, climate same, looking ugly, and more

Maybe the Broadmoor and El Paso County Parks could strike a deal using the Jones Park Trail for commercial horse riding adventures now that the County manages that "wilderness" area, thus impacting fewer residents and municipal park users at Bear Creek Park.

Posted by Donna Scheeter on 04/07/2015 at 4:19 PM

Re: “April Fools, climate same, looking ugly, and more

"A few horses" is not how I would describe the Broadmoor's plan to build a commercial horse stable off of Cresta Rd. and Argus, and anyone like Marge who has a bucolic view of this project is really not aware of its impact on the neighborhood and on Bear Creek Park. There will be 20 horses stabled there, and the Broadmoor estimates 4-6 daily trail rides of up to 8 animals. In other words, it is pretty much a "corporate takeover" of the public park, accompanied by a 7 day per week commercial operation with manure, horseflies, smells, noise, etc. underneath a row of houses. This will not increase property values, and in fact, a down-zone to Agricultural will devalue homes in the area and rob the school district of much needed revenue. The former plan for 17 houses is dead, that fellow sold the land to the Broadmoor. Now lets fight the zone change and talk to Mr. Anschutz about donating the 8.5 acre lot to the park and keeping it as open space, an asset to all surrounding properties. I understand he is a very generous man and he would get a tax deduction, win-win!

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Posted by prairie chix on 04/07/2015 at 3:49 PM

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