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Re: “Blood for coal

Also Martelle says that "most of these people" came from the war in the Balkans. That was in the imagination of Chase. There is no evidence of that.

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Posted by Mother Jones on 04/22/2014 at 7:09 PM

Re: “Blood for coal

The comment on Mother Jones borders on a stereotype and is borderline misogynist. Same is true in Martelle's book. Chase's version of her comes across in the book.

In fact, Mother Jones was an architect of much of the UMWA policy in Colorado, and had worked with others on the left since 1897 to create a union movement capable of the struggle. At its core, it was a family-oriented woman-centered strategy. In 1903 she had argued against the union leadership for the unity between northern and southern field. Since 1897 she had been the architect of the family tent encampments and putting women on the front lines.

She comes across as just a rousing speaker here. The woman endured 3 months of imprisonment for habeas corpus rights. Imagine 3 months with no reading and writing materials, not a pen or pencil, no communication, no visitors, part of it in rat-infested cold jail. OK, you probably can now that we have Guantanamo.

To reduce her role in Colorado to a good inspiring speaker and publicity hound belittles the monumental contribution. In addition, she used a global perspective. I know everyone is not a hero, but rousing the miners to manliness was the least of what she did.

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Posted by Mother Jones on 04/22/2014 at 6:37 PM

Re: “Blood for coal

Nothing's changed in 100 years. See: http://tinyurl.com/mwujx7k

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Posted by OldCrank on 04/17/2014 at 11:29 AM

Re: “Blood for coal

We don't ignore labor history, we're deprived of it, by corporate rulers who don't want an informed, adversarial populace. Martelle is disingenuous or he's a clod.

And to argue that Ludlow wasn't a massacre is like suggesting America's imperial policy doesn't intend genocide. US victims can't be dismissed as "collateral damage" simply because American soldiers don't comprehend the consequences of their deployment. The Colorado National Guard set the Ludlow camp afire without any record of having warned its occupants, who were mostly women and children.

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Posted by eric-notmytribe.com on 04/17/2014 at 12:59 AM

Re: “Blood for coal

Interesting conversation between two ignorant people bent on writing and remembering history that they were not a part. That one is not aware of the event or the monument does not mean that this is the case for everyone.
The governor's militia burning tents are somehow absolved of "massacre" because it is assumed or reported they did not know people were in those tents or hiding in some secret "chamber"? This is pure nonsense. The tents were the residences of the workers, burning those tents was an act of homicidal mob mentality. "They did not know" is a poor defense then and now. Almost identical to the actions of government in Waco a few years ago. How many children did they kill there? None of course. The government protects us, they do not kill us, we kill ourselves.
What's next? The Battle of Sand Creek?

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 04/17/2014 at 12:35 AM

Re: “Breaking big: St. Paul & The Broken Bones

I love it when white people sound like Al Green.

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Posted by el producto on 04/10/2014 at 10:51 AM

Re: “Trashed

There are programs in Chicago & Detroit where they will put 5 feet of composted soil on an empty lot and make citizen gardens in the worst areas in the big cities, where people can't buy veggies in their small corner stores. Cheap and efficient. Why can't CS do this here and instead maybe people wouldn't dump there trash there???

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Posted by gurudori on 03/28/2014 at 10:00 AM

Re: “Trashed

Low city tax rates = low city services = illegal dumping.
Another brilliant success story for TABOR.
Another reason corporate America is beating down our doors to come here.

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Posted by OldCrank on 03/28/2014 at 10:00 AM

Re: “Trashed

I have a great solution to this issue for our city. In New York state, the garbage is city regulated, so they allow each household to toss out 2 to 3 car tires along with other trash once a year in front of their home. And if you don’t want to return your cans or glass for recycling, their homeless folks will go around and pick them out of the recycle bins and they make good money, since each can or glass bottle has a 5 cent recycle fee that they can claim at a recycle station. If we did this, it would create jobs and keep broken glass off of our streets. Easy Pizzy.

In CS, If we legalize RMJ and collected tax revenues, we could the money to pay people with pick-up trucks to be outsource contractors by allowing each household one pickup dump per year. The city sends a coupon to each household in the mail and they give it to the contractor to take their load of trash to the transfer station at South Circle & I25. The contractor would get $50 per load to cover time and gas money. The city pays for the trash dump fee and the contractor fee out of this RMJ tax money. This would not only get the citizens of CS to clean up their act, but it would also help us to create new part time jobs for folks that could use some extra cash. The citizens win and the city wins. What about it Mayor Bach and City Council ???.

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Posted by gurudori on 03/27/2014 at 3:11 PM

Re: “Trashed

I keep saying that we need to start a Glass recycling plant here in CS, and to do this we would have to get the State to start a five cent recycling fee per bottle like they do on the East Coast. More money, more jobs for CS. What do you think?

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Posted by gurudori on 03/27/2014 at 2:50 PM

Re: “Trashed

I have a great solution to this issue for our city. In New York state, the garbage is city regulated, so they allow each household to toss out 2 to 3 car tires along with other trash once a year in front of their home. And if you don’t want to return your cans or glass for recycling, their homeless folks will go around and pick them out of the recycle bins and they make good money, since each can or glass bottle has a 5 cent recycle fee that they can claim at a recycle station. If we did this, it would create jobs and keep broken glass off of our streets. Easy Pizzy.

In CS, If we legalize RMJ and collected tax revenues, we could the money to pay people with pick-up trucks to be outsource contractors by allowing each household one pickup dump per year. The city sends a coupon to each household in the mail and they give it to the contractor to take their load of trash to the transfer station at South Circle & I25. The contractor would get $50 per load to cover time and gas money. The city pays for the trash dump fee and the contractor fee out of this RMJ tax money. This would not only get the citizens of CS to clean up their act, but it would also help us to create new part time jobs for folks that could use some extra cash. The citizens win and the city wins. What about it Mayor Bach and City Council ???

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Posted by gurudori on 03/27/2014 at 2:42 PM

Re: “Pinned Down

Such a sick and sad story, unfortunatly all to common in America. A lot of kids have been sent to this place for minor problems, as long as there is money to be made by locking people up this will comtinue.
America has a serious institutional abuse problem.

Posted by Yukon Cornileus on 03/25/2014 at 1:58 PM

Re: “Hard landings

The public is best served by a highly trained military protecting us from foreign foes.

Freedom is not free and if the should of rotor blades is too high a price for someone, screw him.

The rest of us want peace through strength, which will never happen if we organize ourselves around the whiney dopers inManitou.

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Posted by TejonTech on 03/20/2014 at 9:32 AM

Re: “Hard landings

I have to ask, which is more likely to cause a forest fire: An Army helicopter crashing or some dumbass hiker/camper lighting a fire or throwing away a burning cigarette? Maybe the BLM are looking at banning the wrong people from the forests.

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Posted by flatlander_andy on 03/19/2014 at 4:05 PM

Re: “Hard landings

This is a classic case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing. There are plans in the works to cut the number of Army Combat Aviation Brigades (CABs) by 3. Meanwhile money is pouring into a new CAB at Fort Carson with all the buildings, helicopters, drone aircraft and ground vehicles that add up to a $3 billion package. That is what pork barrel lobbying by the likes of Lamborn, Udall and Bennet will get for you. All claim to be budget deficit hawks. Guess you can take that phrase a couple of different ways.

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Posted by Gopher on 03/19/2014 at 1:55 PM

Re: “Cheer up, it's just the end of the world

Pretribulation Rapture is Biblical By David J. Stewart

*1st Thessalonians 4:17, “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

The Bible plainly teaches that the Rapture of the Church (all born-again believers) from the earth will happen BEFORE the Tribulation Period. God removed Noah and his family before flooding the earth, pouring out His divine wrath upon the wicked. Again, God delivered righteous Lot and his family before reigning down fire and brimstone upon the wicked cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. God never destroys the righteous with the wicked. And rest assured, God has promised to deliver believers from the wrath to God, which God will pour out upon the wicked during the Great Tribulation.

http://www.soulwinning.info/prophecy/pr.ht…

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Posted by gurudori on 03/05/2014 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Barrel roll

Culinarian and Corey: I am in touch with chef Matthews and do indeed base my journalism inside of factual reporting. Which is why you don't see me reporting on Matthews being booted from the Bourbon Brothers realm. I already conveyed this to Corey inside of a personal correspondence. If you have information that you would like to bring to light, feel free to contact me at the INDY.

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Posted by Matthew Schniper on 02/27/2014 at 4:06 PM

Re: “Barrel roll

Seriously CSIndy??? The departure (whether voluntary or not) of the covergirl of this story less than two weeks after Bourbon Brothers official opening would seem to merit at least a side dish mention. And while this is clearly a small town and small fish issue... please stop publishing V. Matthew exaggerations and partial truths as "fact checked truth". His primary product is his own story and people spend real money based on his "tales". From the young adults (and the military veterans who he directly markets to) who enroll in his culinary school based on his questionable credentials; to the investors in Palapas, to "culinarian" above who has clearly had first hand issues with Matthews claims, almost everyone in the local industry has long since called bullshit . Maybe now the Indy will too, but probably not. Everyday that Paragon Cooking School continues to advertise Victor's BS "credentials" as a reason to come to the school they commit a fraud and every time that the Indy republishes those claims they facilitate that fraud. Of course all of this is not presented as fact, and is just my opinion. Lastly I wonder how many disgruntled ex paragon students it would take claiming fraudulent misrepresentation before a class action was filed.

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Posted by Corey Wilson on 02/26/2014 at 11:26 PM

Re: “Sea of holes

My business is in this end of town. It is not a dismal place to be. The people here are kind, considerate, and dedicated citizens. And tax payers. And, so am I.
http://www.herstorycafe.com/her-blog.html

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Posted by Liz Rosenbaum on 02/20/2014 at 2:05 PM

Re: “Red, white and green

The best way for the military to save energy is to permanently close some more bases.

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Posted by ConcernedCitizen on 02/20/2014 at 7:21 AM

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