you are out of your league harpin, you can try the old dance around the question and not answer it but you aren't smart enough to not sound stupid. if talking points is all you got... go away.
vote against the the 2nd amendment, against the Constitution, and you're a TRAITOR, and in office...you will be held accountable. either in elections, litigation, a tribunal, or otherwise. preserve Liberty...nothing else without it matters!
Guru---stay on topic please
Golly G, you seem to also be suffering from delusions of grandeur in addition to paranoia, which are both signs of psychosis. Your nonsensical rant would be humorous if it wasn't so pathetically sad. Did you miss you session with your psychiatrist this week?
Only a mindless twit would think themselves clever after writing tripe like that.
Dearest siggie: If you don’t start any Shitz, there won’t be any Shitz, but since you brought it, I flung it…like a cow pie with whip cream right into your face. How’s the Bull Shitz taste, boyz? LMMFAO!!!
You’re not King of the board yet, and even if you were, you can’t tell people how to make comments. I’ve even read comments from the Indy when they had to put you in your place at times for correcting their writers, so what would your boring ass day look like without me making some excitement for you? ) LOL!
It’s not even 420 yet and I’m not even baked yet, but you stepped into this one dude, and I’m having soooooo much fun with it. (Oh, and don’t forget to correct my shitz! You anal retentive control freak- (look that one up in your Psych book since you seem to love to practice it.) Love ya, guru
What the Pope said is not approval of sexual relationships outside of marriage, defined as husband and wife, male and female. What the Pope did say is that orientation is not a barrier to a holy life if one is chaste and celibate.
Here are other church, which is what we are talking about here, voices on the subject:
Bishop Michael Sheridan, Diocese of Colorado Springs:
This has been the position of the church all along. The way I read his remarks is that a priest can be homosexual and a priest if he leads a holy and chaste life. It doesn't put a moral value on being homosexual, any more than it says heterosexuals are good or evil. It is what you are. But if a heterosexual acts outside a marriage, that is wrong. The pope is distinguishing between the person and the act.
He is reiterating the documents of the church regarding the dignity of every human being. The church has issued several documents regarding ministry to homosexual persons and consistently has said every person possesses inherent dignity.
Karna Swanson, director of communications, Catholic Archdiocese of Denver:
I think the important part of the message is to understand that the clear teachings of the church says that homosexual inclination is not sinful and that the church has always expected priests to live lives of celibate chastity. What the pope said does not contradict that at all. He is underlining that every person who has an inclination, if they are eagerly seeking God and seeking to live according to the teachings of the church, then he is on a good path.
Yawn- Related to MORON- Webster Synonyms
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this is what I think of you and your post, siggie. LMAO! again!
Well gosh darn G, you certainly and quickly associated with my non-directional comment about obsession, no doubt appropriately. However, I must point out (which I often need do with the less intelligent posters) that your observation on the most frequent poster depends on which page you look. For example, if you were to click on "news" you would find the frequency rating as follows: Mr. Nirom, gurudori, TejonTech, OldCrank and bringing up the bottom of the top five "siggie". If you were to go to the "columns" home page, you would find a different order. Let me also point out, my comments are short, sweet and to the point (they also vary). Your comments are excessively verbose, flamboyant, irrational, often poorly written and ONLY about your gayness. Glad, as always, to have been of assistance.
I should also point out for the hard of reading, I did not post "boring" as reported. I simply yawned.
Relationships are hard work...and some times things just can't be fixed...none of us should be using these sad defeats that are so difficult for those involved as a banner against the other side in this larger debate.
Colorado's first gay divorce finalized in El Paso County
The Associated Press- • Modified: July 30, 2013 at 11:06 am • Published: July 30, 2013 • 0
DENVER — Supporters of Colorado's new civil unions law say the first state ruling of its kind declaring a same-sex divorce final sets a precedent for gay couples married in other states who want to legally terminate their relationships in Colorado without uprooting their lives.
Juli Yim and Lorelei Jones wed in Massachusetts in 2009, where same-sex marriage is legal. Yim said that relationship went sour and she found a new partner in Colorado.
Colorado is one of several states that treat gay and straight couples the same in almost every respect through civil unions or domestic partnerships. Gay couples are not allowed to marry in Colorado, but can get divorced there under state statute.
Some states' gay marriage laws require in-state residency to dissolve a relationship. Gay-rights advocates contend the requirement is more than an inconvenience because it can put lives on hold for those who have moved to different states.
Denver lawyer Kyle Martelon said there is some confusion on how gay couples can get divorced, and the issues are different in other states.
"A lot of people kind of think if they went on vacation to Iowa or Massachusetts or New York and got married and came back to their state, that when they break up they can just go their separate ways," Martelon said. "It's not like that."
Colorado's civil union law, which took effect May 1, provides legal protections including division of property, financial responsibility between former spouses, parental visitation and child support to splitting couples, provided one involved individual has lived in Colorado for more than 90 days.
The new law prohibits anyone who is married or in a civil union in another state from entering a civil union in Colorado with someone other than their legally recognized spouse.
Yim and Suzie Calvin have been friends since high school and plan to marry next May 1, most likely in another state unless Colorado's ban on gay marriage is overturned, which is unlikely to happen soon. Yim's divorce became final Monday in El Paso County, the Fort Collins Coloradoan reported Tuesday (http://tinyurl.com/nzqoxwd).
Yim's was among seven dissolution cases filed during the first two months the new law was in effect. The other six are pending.
Wow Tejon Tech Accurately heard and wrote what the Pope said.
Wow, siggie. I would have to agree with you on this one: that you and TT are both OBSESSED with the comment board ( being #1 & #2), especially when you commented, “Boring” a few comments ago to this story.
If you are so bored, are you also compelled to have to reply to things I post? I guess that is being OBSESSED TO THE MAX! LMAO AT YOU! guru
Obsession is often associated with mental illness.
Lot's of misinterpretation going on in the news. It is what the church all around teaches, believes, and acts out. Along the lines of what Bishop Sheridan said, here is a good summary and explanation:
What Pope Francis really said about gays -- and no, it's not new
By Fr. Jonathan Morris
Published July 29, 2013
Pope Francis doesn’t do interviews. Or at least that’s what we thought. He said that about himself just one week ago on the way to Rio de Janeiro for World Youth Day.
Then World Youth Day happened. And it happened in a big way.
According to official reports from City Hall, 3.2 million young people gathered on Copacabana Beach to see him, pray with him, and hear his proposal about the meaning of life.
The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual.
His closing message to them was simple: Go back to your homes, and serve others without fear.
Hours later, perhaps taking to heart his own closing message about fearless service, Pope Francis offered an 80 minute, unscripted question-and-answer session with the international press corps.
In its entirely, the press conference on the pope’s plane traveling from Brazil back to the Vatican was fascinating. (For more, please look at my Twitter reports.)
But, unfortunately, if you were reading the headlines from some media outlets, you would have learned just one thing. As the Huffington Post put it: “Breakthrough: Pope OK with Gays.”
This is the worst coverage of a religious story I have seen to date.
Let’s begin with the fact that the pope has always been “OK” with homosexuals. In fact, by the demands of his own religion he is required to be much more than just “OK.” The Christian faith teaches that every person is endowed by God with an inviolable dignity and therefore deserves our unconditional respect and love.
A section of an Associated Press report also got the story very wrong. Summarizing the pope’s comments on homosexuals in the priesthood, the AP reported: “Francis was much more conciliatory [than Pope Benedict], saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.”
Pope Francis didn’t say that, and the report is wrong on so many levels.
First of all, it suggests that being gay itself, is a sin. What Pope Francis really said, in response to a reporter’s question about homosexual priests who are living a celibate life was this: “If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?”
Pope Francis simply and compassionately reiterated Biblical teaching. The Bible and the Catholic Church have never taught that it is a “sin” to be homosexual. They teach it is a sin to have homosexual sex because it goes against the laws of God’s nature, specifically his plan for human sexuality.
When Pope Francis says “who am I to judge” he is saying—and I think we need to hear more of this from religious leaders—that active homosexuals deserve the same kindness, love, and mercy that all of us sinners would hope to receive from God and from others.
We don’t make judgments about anyone’s personal worth—God has already done that when he created us out of love.
I would hope next time Pope Francis offers to meet with the press, they would take to heart his message about fearless service and report to their readers what he actually said, rather than what they wish they had heard.
Pat Robertson On Transgender Community: 'I Don't Think There's Any Sin Associated With That' The Huffington Post | By Cavan Sieczkowski 07/29/2013
This is certainly one of Pat Robertson's most shocking statements yet. Pat Robertson has said a lot of shocking things, but his latest comment about the transgender community might be the most surprising yet.
The 83-year-old televangelist sat down on Sunday for the "Bring It Online" advice portion of his Christian Broadcasting Network show, "The 700 Club." A viewer named David wrote in asking how he should refer to two transgender females who work in his office and have legally changed their genders. Instead of criticizing the trans individuals, Robertson approached the situation in a seemingly level-headed manner.
"I think there are men who are in a woman's body," he said. "It's very rare. But it's true -- or women that are in men's bodies -- and that they want a sex change. That is a very permanent thing, believe me, when you have certain body parts amputated and when you have shot up with various kinds of hormones. It's a radical procedure. I don't think there's any sin associated with that. I don't condemn somebody for doing that."
He went on to say he would "question the validity" of someone who just says, "Well I'm really a woman" because you "don't count somebody as female unless they really are, or male unless they really are."
When his co-host said the viewer doesn't know the intentions or medical history of his co-workers, Robertson rebutted, "It's not for you to decide or to judge."
The remarks from Robertson -- who has ranted about gays, Muslims and demons in Goodwill sweaters -- were applauded by various blogs.
ThinkProgress called his statement a "refreshing change of pace." Back 2 Stonewall joked that the comments might push anti-gay American Family Association host Bryan Fischer even "deeper into the end of the insanity pool." America Blog called it a "huge deal."
"Robertson’s statement is, at its core, sympathetic," wrote America Blog's John Aravosis. "And regardless of how flawed the rest of his quote is ... these are the kind of positive statements that help a movement move forward, especially one that is less known to the public than, for example, being gay. Say what you will about Robertson, but this quote is very helpful."
Local Reaction to Pope's Comments on Gays
Jul 29, 2013 10:37 PM by Annie Snead
Pope Francis continues to make headlines, while wrapping up his first overseas visit to Brazil. The Pope told reporters on the way back from Brazil quote "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am i to judge them?"
We're getting local reaction. We spoke with Bishop Michael Sheridan of Colorado Springs who says this has been the teaching of the Catholic Church all along.
"That's been the consistent teaching of the Catholic Church, maybe it's being heard by some people for the first time I don't know," said Bishop Sheridan.
He says the comments are nothing new, and that the catholic church has always made the distinction between same sex attraction, and homosexual actions.
"Every human being has inherent dignity, every human being - homosexual, heterosexual, male, female, and has to be treated accordingly, with love and respect, and given all human rights," he said.
For Charles Irwin with Colorado Springs Pride, the Pope's comments were a surprise.
He says many times equality and certain faith based organizations don't go hand in hand,but believes the comments are bringing the two sides closer together.
"I do want to see how the words are going to be backed up by actions, that's what's really important especially here in Colorado Springs with the many faith based organizations we have," Irwin said.
He says they're just looking for equality, and if that's what the Pope meant, then that's a great thing.
"There's that little sticking point about what you think and the actions that you do..is the Pope saying that if I am a gay man and I have an intimate relationship with a man...am I a sinner? That's really what i want to see," he said.
Bishop Sheridan believes that is where the church draws the line.
"What we've always distinguished between is the person's attraction, say same sex attraction or homosexuality and then homosexual actions," he said.
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if i took all you had away from you oldcrank you would not survive one night in the streets.we lost our jobs our home, lost it all when the economy fell apart yet we try with all our might to get back on our feet, how dare you cast stones in an area you clearly know nothing about. your ignorance is truly stamp on your forehead.
New Hampshire just signed an MMJ law into effect....
This means all six New England states now allow MMJ.
Full normalization is on the way nationwide.
Unless TejonTech is also for the ban of recreational alcohol than they are hypocrite as alcohol empirically causes way more damage to the public's health and safety.
But even if that is the case, this is a move AGAINST the Free Market, Limited Government and the Will of the People and those that support it can't claim to love Liberty.
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