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Re: “Colorado voters gambled on pot and TABOR, but will they go for single-payer health care?

A lot of BS to wade through here but I'll give it a try...
1- the purchase of private health insurance right now is basically mandatory (unless you're content with dying from a treatable health issue)
2- Colorado care does not outlaw private insurance or paying out-of-pocket or restrict getting care elsewhere if that's what you want to do
3- your only valid point
4- while the Colorado care payroll tax is exempt from TABOR because it's revenues are not technically government funds, it still requires voter approval to rise the tax rate just like TABOR requires (section 9p8, you should read the amendment before posting)  and yes 17% of our GDP is spent on Healthcare but Colorado care does not replace all of this, Medicare, Medicaid and the VA systems in the state would be unchanged and they account for almost half of Healthcare spending
5- your PCP should be giving any referrals you need and they aren't government employees. I'm not sure where you got this "gatekeeper" notion the ammendment says that you'll be free to utilize any doctor licensed in the state.

6-  yes this is VERY business friendly! Do you have any idea how much time and cost goes into providing health coverage for employees?  Every compny in the state negotiating with many different providers every single year?  This will alow them to get out of that mess, and allow businesses in Colorado to focus on what they actually do for their business, it's not a government intrusion into business practices at all in fact it's the exact opposite.  Colorado care yes estimates that city govs will save $177 million and county govs $84 million, including $11 mill for co springs, money that can be better invested in services or returned to tax payers. It's reasonable to expect private business in the state will see similar savings, this would be a very major selling point to businesses looking to expand into the state.

7- since when are illegal immigrants allowed to vote?

7 part two- in most cases this is true because competing providors are much better at providing services.  Our "private" Healthcare system however is anything but a free market. The fact that most have Insurance coverage removes any incentive to save money since the patient doesn't pay directly. Each insurance pool is just a mini socialist Healthcare system except that they must answer to shareholders instead of patients. Also because the majority of us get coverage through our employer we dont even have a choice in which mini socialist Healthcare system we want to join so there isn't even that  competition.  insurance companies don't care about us because we aren't their customers, they sell to employers.  Furthermore Colorado care isn't even a government run system anyway since the legislature has no influence over the elected board of trustees, it's a tax funded publicly owned co-op.

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Posted by the un-Valarie Murphy on 05/27/2016 at 7:51 AM

Re: “Colorado voters gambled on pot and TABOR, but will they go for single-payer health care?

1. This is a MANDATORY tax of $25 BILLION with MANDATORY participation.

2. Every resident including illegals and those who work under the table for cash will get “free” health care. Oh, and forget Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. You will not be allowed to go anywhere without government permission.

3. Expect a huge increase in utilization. Adjusted for age and health, Medicare has a 50% higher utilization rate because it’s all “free.” Where will Colorado get all the doctors? Foreign countries?

4. Affordable? With medical costs running 17% of GDP, there is no way these people will run this scheme for ten percent of incomes. Since they won’t be limited by TABOR, once they get you, they will be able to raise the tax to whatever they want. Expect their cronies to get wealthy.

5 You may be allowed to choose a PCP. You will not be able to see a specialist without your government gatekeeper’s permission. Again, forget any specialized cancer center. That means you will not choose the heart surgeon who cuts you open.

6. Business friendly? Business friendly means keeping the government nose out of business decisions.

7. Every illegal and everyone who has never paid a dime into this mess will be able to vote on who runs it.

7. Government is never efficient and never saves money. Government is all about cronyism. In this case, it is leftist cronies, many from Boulder.
"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism." Kruschev

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Posted by Valarie Murphy on 05/26/2016 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Colorado voters gambled on pot and TABOR, but will they go for single-payer health care?

I personally spent the night in a committee hearing of the house this last session. By the time they took up our bill at 3 in the morning [a tactic used to hope we would leave] I was thoroughly convinced that the legislature is for special interests and wealthy lobbyist. It is a joke for the voice of the commoner. The ballot initiative is all we have left for sensible government for everyone. And it is not easy to get an initiative on the ballot either. Only TABOR was accomplished by a quasi grass roots campain; all other successful campaigns paid for their signatures. Democracy is defined by a majority and I distinctly remember my math teacher, Fr. Krieger, teaching us that anything above 50% is a majority, not 55%. I will work hard against these campaigns so that Coloradans have a seat at the table of our laws.

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Posted by Peter Coulter on 05/26/2016 at 6:34 AM
Posted by gyrogearloose on 05/25/2016 at 6:53 PM

Re: “Mixed blessings

Andrew Womack is a good man with a loving and giving heart for people.

. I find it funny how "so called" liberals want everyone to be tolerant of others when in reality theyre the most intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree their point of view. Ie: If a conservative doesn't like something, they find an alternative. When a liberal doesn't like something they want attempt to force everyone to comply with them or they resort to belittling slandering using half truths or outright lying. Never ever attempt to confuse a liberal with the facts.

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Posted by Archer4110 on 05/20/2016 at 12:11 AM

Re: “Trapped in the dying mall

The club was called Pink Cadillac.

Posted by Shane Pedigo on 05/18/2016 at 10:18 PM

Re: “2016 Colorado Springs bicycle guide

Pedal On to Carrie and the rocking staff of the Colorado Springs Independent!

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 05/18/2016 at 7:35 AM

Re: “Philip Anschutz's influence knows no bounds

Back off people. Why all the hate? This is a country of power and money. His power and money has done more for this city then anyone of you bad mouthing him. What have you done to ensure jobs, tourism, a beautiful view. Are you taking care of the issue at hand, no didn't think so. With pot legalized more people come here to live, which his money has created jobs, visiting, which his money is fixing things that draw in crowds while you just wait for the city to fix problems. I bet if he paid for all the messed up roads we still have you would thank him because our tax money isn't getting the job done. So be thankful he's doing what he's doing to better Colorado Springs. Ungrateful people. Wow.

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Posted by Tomas Reyes on 05/15/2016 at 4:59 AM

Re: “Terms of St. Francis Hospital sale included donations to a nonprofit foundation

COS has some darn good reporting. Pam Zubeck- J. Stanley and Nat Stein are doing a great job telling the residents of COS the devious nonsense going on. Who's going to call this to action? We need police force on this, judicial type of crap we pay taxes for.

Bribery folks- it's illegal. Why it's not being prosecuted god only knows.

Posted by KyleJS on 05/13/2016 at 1:29 AM

Re: “Terms of St. Francis Hospital sale included donations to a nonprofit foundation

I'm having a hard time getting too worked up about this . . . a building empty for more than 5 years? Owned by an entity that was paying NO taxes? If someone other than a rich developer had been able to pull this off in order to renovate an historic city building (rather than bull-dozing it), wouldn't we be applauding?

And yes, the result will be high-end housing, but doesn't our whole community gain by keeping a bit of our history in our midst?

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Posted by Elle Ameno on 05/08/2016 at 6:23 AM

Re: “Mikey's Mission

Where is the religious test to be a soldier in the military.? Why doesn't the kid punk Mikey go,ahead and discharge and REFUSE soldiers with Christian, Catholic and Jewish background. Then he can be Obama's operative to defeat the military and give Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan and other despot communists Islamist terrorists sovereignty over our country security. Mikey is a punk set up by the globalists for the one world government. If he has a chance to get one of Clinton's e-mails, he would give them to China and North Korea and blame ALL Christians for espionage. This irrational 60 year old kid is beside himself.

Posted by Paul Fishman on 05/05/2016 at 11:52 PM

Re: “Philip Anschutz's influence knows no bounds

Mr. Anschutz is like our own little Koch Bros.! And I don't mean thst in a good way..... Throwing his money around, he wants to control everything and everyone. He certainly seems to have our political leaders doing his bidding, not to mention state & US elected officials.

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Posted by prairie chix on 05/05/2016 at 2:24 PM

Re: “Terms of St. Francis Hospital sale included donations to a nonprofit foundation

Seems like every time there is a swindle in this town it involves the Jenkins Family. On a side note: Did someone beat this family with an ugly stick? Is it a genetic issue? A result of inbreeding? Are they evil mole people? Just an observation.

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Posted by obliosupercat on 05/04/2016 at 9:08 PM

Re: “Terms of St. Francis Hospital sale included donations to a nonprofit foundation

From a post from last September on "Liberty for COS" (…

"Here’s a thinking person’s explanation of what really happened: Jenkins somehow gets the property for $50,000. Remarkably the property is assessed at that purchase price (Jenkins donated $17,500 to County Treasurer Lowderman's campaign who is in charge of assessments see link:…). Now, as Jenkins develops the property, the value will obviously go up (again his pal, Lowderman is in charge of assessments) and Jenkins will have to pay more taxes, right? He’ll pay more taxes, but because his new acquisitions have been included in the revised boundaries of the DDA, any growth of tax revenue above the baseline goes to the DDA (because of the TIF that’s in place) and now his property is a potential and likely beneficiary of the DDA dollars. Jenkins--completely coincidentally--also happens to serve on the DDA board that decides where the money goes. So his higher taxes will not benefit the City, they will benefit himself. When normal citizens’ taxes go up, they benefit the City, when friends of Council’s taxes go up—they go up to benefit themselves!"

Since the time of this post, the DDA has in fact awarded the lion's share of the DDA's TIF revenue to Jenkins' Penrose development. Is anyone shocked?

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 05/04/2016 at 4:06 PM

Re: “Terms of St. Francis Hospital sale included donations to a nonprofit foundation

Now folks this is how Business is done in this City and Country this is how ya get things done. Ya give a million dollars away so ya can take it off your taxes. Then pay less then the price of a automobile for prime property from the same people ya gave the million to. Then turn around and talk your local buddies into lowering the property tax on that property because its supposedly junk. Then say its for the betterment of our population because your going to turn it into apartments very few can afford. Yea thats how its done.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 05/04/2016 at 2:34 PM

Re: “Laws help ensure the public's right to know

John Howell: Like in one hand and defecate in the other. Then eat them both. College transcripts are PRIVATE!! Do you understand the meaning of the word private? It means none of your fucking business. Wanna see my tax returns? Same issue. Not your business, moron. !

Posted by Rhino2 on 05/02/2016 at 2:15 PM

Re: “Philip Anschutz's influence knows no bounds

Fubecal is onto something - the city has nearly endless "projects" with money flowing into its crony's pockets. Why did they spend money on the incline? This deal was done before that was done. Why did thier buddys get millions to buy the vineyard golf course? Why do we have the highest sales taxes in the state and Not ONE pot hole has been fixed? Just ask phillip if him and his buddys will fix lake ave? Oh sorry its done.

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Posted by rocket625 on 04/30/2016 at 5:39 PM

Re: “Philip Anschutz's influence knows no bounds

One of the Seven Deadly Sins is Greed. Anshutz sounds greedy even though he hides behind philanthropy. Wake up City Council. You are the only hope. The Parks Department has had the wool pulled over their eyes.

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Posted by Denise on 04/30/2016 at 9:50 AM

Re: “The tick and the time bomb

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Posted by Elizabeth Jerry on 04/29/2016 at 6:28 PM

Re: “Philip Anschutz's influence knows no bounds

Springs Native: I am a native 4th generation native and I disagree. He has pumped money in to his attractions for his benefit. 7 falls is owned by him costs to see this attraction have sky rocketed while paying very minimal labor. Cog Railway same thing. The News paper owned and biased to him and his endeavors. The ranch on Cheyenne mtn. off limits to us, the proposed stable the same unless you pay the Hotel. His name on the World arena OWNED by us but profit from some venues to him the stadium down town that hes championing for that we build and he runs and manages for his profit all while providing low paying jobs for the common worker. Nothing extra, nothing more for the residents, nothing for the Community. Ive been many times to Strawberry fields and those trails were put in for the guests of the Hotel they start right there and go no where else but the Falls. Will we be able to use them once he owns them? The kids using the parks? That's what parks are for. Maybe not keg parties but the Park dept could stop that if its really happening and anyone nailing anything to a tree needs fined up the wazzoo and horse whipped. I originally thought him buying the Hotel was a good thing hes done good things in other cities. But turns out he wants everything the Army dont already have. We need an economy more then Visitors to the Hotel and Military. If he wants to do something for Colorado Springs get some Industry back so our kids have somewhere to make a life long living here and dont have to move to Denver.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 04/29/2016 at 6:09 PM

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