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Re: “As I recall ...”
I've met John Morse, before he was a big shot, and I like him.
I'm not so sure his legislative efforts to restrict gun ownership are the best for the state, but I'm sure he believes in what he is doing.
Let's have the recall and let him make his case - again.
Posted by
Brian Scott
on 05/29/2013 at 10:32 PM
Re: “As I recall ...”
I signed the petition to recall Morse today...
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/29/2013 at 9:06 PM
Re: “As I recall ...”
Opponents of the effort to Recall Morse (including CS Indy) continue to say this is an out of state effort. YOU ARE WRONG!
I and two others who live in Senate District 11 are on the petition to recall Morse. I am leading the effort locally with the help of many people who live in Colorado. Once the volunteers began to gain traction, others decided to join in and help us financially to ensure we have more than enough signatures to overcome any challenges that Morse, who has backing from New York’s Bloomberg as well as Chicago, would bring against our signatures and petitions.
We have over 150 volunteers who have toiled during the week and on weekends going door to door, sitting in front of libraries and on street corners in order to ensure we collect the signatures necessary to recall Morse.
Senator Morse publicly stated that he refused to read my emails and those of his other constituents and called their contents vitriol. He helped change senate rules and scheduling of bills to disallow citizen input on important legislation that impacts the citizens of this state thereby disenfranchising the voices of hundreds of citizens. Morse pushed gun control laws that are unenforceable and so poorly written that 55 Colorado Sheriffs plus many others are suing to have them overturned.
Those same gun control laws pushed by Morse also caused the loss of hundreds of Colorado jobs and millions of dollars annual revenue. Morse promised to focus on jobs and the economy (we thought in a positive way), but instead pushed tuition assistance and drivers licenses for illegal aliens, same day voter registration which invites voter fraud, gun control laws, and a $1 Billion tax increase among many other things. None of these do anything to help the economy and several will and have hurt it.
Morse may think he has followed his conscience with his poorly written laws, but he surely has not followed the will of the majority of his constituents. For those who disagree, we intend to allow HIS CONSTITUENTS to make that decision at the ballot box in a recall election.
Senator Morse, like most narcissists, thinks he can do no wrong and his actions are always right. But we, his constituents, elected a representative, not a ruler. The recall process allows us to remind him and others that legislators are elected to serve the will of constituents, not the East Coast hot-shots like Bloomberg. We intend to tell Morse in no uncertain terms that YOU ARE FIRED!
Posted by
Rob Harris
on 05/29/2013 at 6:27 PM
Re: “As I recall ...”
He voted his conscience and not the will of the people so now he pays for it. Both bills will not have the intended effect, they are nonsense “make me look good at a Notional level and the State be damned” bills. The Governor is as much to blame; he too will have to face the people, no threat, just reality. If we had, the opportunity to vote on all proposed bills in their final form, this would be a better State for it. Nothing is that important that we can’t “think” about it for awhile before making a decision.
Posted by
Don Bennett
on 05/29/2013 at 3:05 PM
Re: “As I recall ...”
There are just so many things to argue about in this article.
"Loevy notes that Colorado's loose initiative laws, for instance, have long invited wealthy, out-of-state tinkerers to test the viability of a new law before trying to pass it around the country."
So it's OK for out of state money to push their interests in passing these laws, but it's not OK for out of state money to fight (the little the recall has gotten)?
So it's OK for out of state people to testify as to why Colorado should have these laws, but it's not OK for in-state people to testify as to why not? (Morse changed the rules in the senate for those who could testify, allowing out of state people to testify first when it should have only been in-state people).
Here's a quote from someone who was actually there waiting to testify:
I spent 12 hours at the Capitol yesterday. Opposition to these bills was huge. We easily had a 10 to 1 advantage in numbers. The few supporters of the bills quickly grew uncomfortable in the listening rooms and left but not before telling on us and sending in the hall monitors to hush us. But that did not stop patriots from being heard.
There were many who circled the Capitol honking their horns and it had it's effect. The honking could be heard in many places throughout the building but especially in the old Supreme Court Chambers. This infuriated Irene Aguilar and others who said they couldn't believe the hostility on the side of gun owners and how rude the honking was. They have not yet seen angry or hostile yet.
Conservatives brought expert witnesses with facts, logic, and common sense. The Liberals brought emotional stories and citizens of other states and countries. The committee meetings were filled with people who opposed the bills. One Senator even asked for a show of hands in favor of 1224 (magazine restrictions) and then opposed. Those apposing greatly outnumbered those supporting. So much so that it brought laughter from the crowd. But this didn't stop Democrat senators from going against the will of the people and passing the bill.
Posted by
rediranch
on 05/29/2013 at 11:17 AM
Re: “As I recall ...”
@Staci6, it is interesting that the survey on marijuana says that you think every voice is important and deserves to be heard.
Didn't the people speak by voting for it to be legal?
And isn't Morse working to repeal that law, basically saying that the majority were wrong to vote to make it legal?
Posted by
rediranch
on 05/29/2013 at 11:08 AM
Re: “As I recall ...”
Are you serious?
"If this is what we're going to do to hold public officials accountable, why not have complete direct democracy?"
YES! Isn't that what the U.S. is supposed to be about? People electing their representatives and people holding their representatives accountable?
Unfortunately I would not be surprised if someone read this story and still thought John Morse was right for Colorado.
Oh, and INDY - I am not a paid signature gatherer, neither is my wife, and neither are the 20 some collectors I've met the 5 times we've volunteered. My wife and I volunteered as much as we could to gather those signatures, walking for hours and hours.
Yes, there are SOME paid volunteers - partially paid by the donation I made to the recall group, but the majority are not.
Posted by
rediranch
on 05/29/2013 at 11:02 AM
Re: “As I recall ...”
I liked the rationale included in the Post's editorial this week:
"Recall elections should be used only in clear cases of malfeasance or incompetence while in office. They should not be played as a trump card by sore losers between elections.
Regular elections are the place where voters should decide whose policies are best."
Those who initiated this recall election should also be required to pay the cost for it; I personally resent being on the hook for it. Where is the conservative base on limiting wasteful expenditures on "symbolism" that make no sense whatsoever? Morse is term limited. Use the money being spent to get rid of a lame duck on the next candidate who might be successful in leading a repeal of the bill deemed unpopular.
Posted by
bill.guman
on 05/29/2013 at 9:41 AM
Re: “As I recall ...”
If in fact this effort is one of intimidation and more politically driven than effect driven, one has the option to work to defeat the recall effort of Senator John Morse - if you would like to play a role, volunteer opportunities are available and you can sign up on the easy sign up site below. And also weigh in with your opinion on the issue of banning or allowing the use of recreational marijuana. Something that at this point appears headed to a certain 'ban' with very little public input to be allowed by council who are leaning toward heavy influence from the military on this matter.
http://unigroupproject.intuitwebsites.com/…
Posted by
Staci6
on 05/29/2013 at 7:15 AM
Re: “Bach says teens who smoke pot may lose their memory forever”
Siggie: Thats all you got. Good one keyboard commando bawahahaha
Posted by
Rocky Smith
on 05/28/2013 at 6:34 AM
Re: “Manitou leaders say visitors and residents will be protected in a flood”
I believe residents will be protected from a flood by a drought.
Posted by
Robert Wyman
on 05/27/2013 at 1:50 PM
Re: “Bach says teens who smoke pot may lose their memory forever”
Too much of anything is bad. I have had too much of pot smokers and the mayor of this town.
Clear thinking does not exist while on a power trip or in a drug induced stupor.
Posted by
Robert Wyman
on 05/27/2013 at 1:21 PM
Re: “Bach says teens who smoke pot may lose their memory forever”
Sloan...just think how successful you would have been if you hadn't been a pot head.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/27/2013 at 12:13 PM
Re: “Bach says teens who smoke pot may lose their memory forever”
If that were true I'd be a vegetable today.
Posted by
Robert Sloan
on 05/27/2013 at 11:53 AM
Re: “Bach says teens who smoke pot may lose their memory forever”
"...when did the Conservatives start believing in science?" Now that is a particularly ignorant thing to say. And speaking of ignorant --- Rocky, do you know the difference between there, their and they're?
Posted by
siggie
on 05/27/2013 at 10:38 AM
Re: “Bach says teens who smoke pot may lose their memory forever”
Jarrod: There's never been a long term study because of its status on the controlled substance list. So how do they know? The people that I know have smoked all there lives since high school now there all 50 and 60 years old and there all sharper and better citizens than the politicians. By the way dont kid yourself this higher octane weed has been around just as long as those I went to school with. Besides that when did the Conservatives start believing in Science?
Posted by
Rocky Smith
on 05/27/2013 at 9:26 AM
Re: “Bach says teens who smoke pot may lose their memory forever”
Apparently Politics is detrimental to your mental state. It makes you say dumb shit in public. We should really keep politicians from our children.
Posted by
Robert Salem
on 05/27/2013 at 2:37 AM
Re: “Indy demands severance contracts from city”
M...I wouldn't work for the government and be a parasite on hard working tax payers...we need about a third as many, not more, government employees.
I don;t speed...but you can laways find the speed entrapments at the bottom of a steep hill...thus not for safety but revenue.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/26/2013 at 10:58 AM
Re: “Colorado Springs joins the Waldorf-charter wave”
Laurielalalulu wrote: "It is true that many Waldorf schools use stories from the Old Testament, the Koran, and Buddhist teachings in some of their History lessons, but do not present the stories as fact, rather as a point of understanding people from different times. The courts recognized this."
Which courts? Not the courts in California where this is actually being disputed. This case is ongoing and has stalled on a technicality. Dan Dugan of PLANS states below that PLANS intends to take this case to court again. The courts have NOT sided with Waldorf on this issue. A favorable ruling in the PLANS case could spell the end of Waldorf charter schools in California and possibly mark their fall throughout the country.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waldorf-crit…
Posted by
Pete K
on 05/26/2013 at 9:54 AM
Re: “There goes the neighborhood: Closing Wasson High School”
I remember sitting in my apartment in Peoria, AZ one day and heard on the news that Wasson High School was selected as the nations best high school that particular year. I saw the building on the school on TV and as one of the best days of my life. I am from the class of 1966 and miss it from time to time and am very proud of it. No other high school in Colorado Springs has the remarkable record that our high school holds. I thought of how fortunate I was that I was an alumni of such a school. Our family moved to Arizona for milder temperatures. I wished that I could have attended one of the schools reunions but due to financial difficulties I never made it. I planned on attending the 50th reunion because money will be better by then. My best friend from high school Pam Warner died 8 years ago and have lost contact with people from my high school. My email address is kay7777777@live.com. Kay Wiskirchen