I would like to know the cost of a non-LEED fire station so we know what premium we really paid, and the payback period. If more than 5 - 8 years, then it is a bad investment.
Who decided to spend limited tax dollars this way...having seen how these decisions are made, this is ego award winning stuff around which there will be a luncheon and congratulations all around at our expense...have you all ever been to a city council meetings and seen how much time they spend fawning over city staff and themselves?
It was reported previously that FS21 was LEED Platinum certified. Now they are saying they should find out next year if it is or isn't?
BTW, the LEED certification thing is largely a scam. Maybe CS Indy should do an investigative report on the whole LEED program and how to become a LEED certified eningeer/contractor or how to get a building LEED certified. I think people would be shocked to learn the truth.
Superbrightled.com, leds should break even after three years, no more. With a little research, you will find much better and cheaper led elements.
All that money that used to be ours now being given to Bach's buddies for some expensive pie in the ski fantasy of developers with their hand in our pockets fro something we never wanted...I'd rather have my money back.
The developers should be responsible for initially providing this kind of infrastructure, not the city or county.
New home building is fool's gold from an economic standpoint, as the initial windfall is more than offset by the never ending burdens of staffing police and fire stations, providing utilities, maintaining roads, etc.
Hey wanna build something? Why not build it in the empty wasteland once known as Rustic Hills and Rustic Hills North? While you're at it, the side streets need patching and the weeds are like a jungle.
Well written and overall very accurate. I would clarify that the waste contract addendum now allows for composting at the mentioned facilities, not that the feasibility at these locations had been fully explored. Similarly, we worked to select a contractor willing to be innovative and try such things as a bus stop recycling pilot, but the feasibility of that too had not yet fully been explored. And, while our contractor has free access to printer recycling, the City’s specific contract does include actually performing this service. (Maybe I'm splitting hairs).
LED discrepancy may have come from the numbers provided by consultants SAIC and RW Beck. Their numbers were based on average LED streetlight costs at the time – we chose a pretty high-quality streetlight for our community, but there are less expensive brands/versions available.
In the interest of full disclosure, we held the Green Fair (a team effort) for two years, but this event had stopped before I left. We had transitioned to providing support of other community-wide events, such as Earth Month and the Colorado Sustainability Conference, once these efforts took prominence and met a similar need.
The reason there is not an Olympic Museum anywhere in the country is because no one is interested in an Olympic Museum...and shouldn't the Olympic Committee reassign some of their first class hotel and expensive dinner budget to do this right in their nice building we already paid for.
And why would we put an Academy visitor's center downtown? If we do that, we might ought to put in a Breckenridge lift ticket sales booth right next to it.
What a goof ball plan.
Hopefully they will grow food forests. Plant food trees for humanity. Imagine if each resident could get a job in their community growing a food tree forest that could feed the community for the next 100 years. Perhaps have food growing on a fruit pure terrain train track for workers to have an endless summer picking or planting calories .
Once they have a new skill,mperhaps society will find value in the product they produce, apples, in the north, oranges and pecans down south. This food train could go down to south Texas, up north to Canada, so workers could be producing wealth, following the sun!
Good point Concerned.
Do the sky socks even want to move...has anyone even asked them...I understand not.
Wish the mayor had instead put together a team to cut and spray weeds around the city. The sidewalks, medians, and right-of-ways on the east and southeast sides of town make the place look like Detroit.
Any proposal developed in a closed forum cannot be considered to be in the public interest. Glad to see the city council understands this. Too bad our mayor does not.
And $ from events like the Waldo Waldo!! http://www.thewaldowaldo.com/ !!
Colorado Springs , aka, 'Dream City', might instead have a "Disgraced Athlete's Hall of Fame", to include Lance Armstrong, A-Rod and the like. It hasn't been done as yet, and if Vegas can have a Mob Museum, why don't we dare to be different?
This thing doesn't really add up...it just sort of smells of the way this city has been run.
Our city is much better serviced and will be a nicer town to visit and spend money in if it is totally pristine with fixed streets, watered trees, clean side walks, than if we raise a ton of money to spread around in inflated contracts to Bach's buddies, the old developer crowd whose narcissism and greed have spoiled our city, for projects that are of little interest.
The ball park is just fine where it is. Who cares about the unneeded museums they want to destroy that whole neighborhood to put in.
The plan of the big fish in a little pond (Bach and Bortelin) is the dream of people who are so out of touch their whole lives are a fantasy.
A tax is a tax is a tax. Doesn't matter who collects it or what it covers.
As a nation we need to re-assess where our tax dollars are going, as it is evident that the Feds are taking more than their fair share.
To be clear, I never provided a number of $250 per LED streetlight because that is not the number and corrected that figure was not mine when I was called. Not sure where it came from and I had left the city by the time the SST made their presentation to council. I believe the team did a good job overall and made some good recommendations, including that funding sustainability in Colorado Springs is important.
I believe LEDs (or a "white light" solution) are the right solution for Colorado Springs in the long run, but I never provided that figure (although the article implies that). LEDs should be considered as a short, medium and long-term solution and a closer inspection of the cost of implementation of a city-wide "white light" solution should occur because this is a $4 M annual bill paid by the City's general fund. LEDs are brighter, safer and use less energy, and conservation is at the core of conservative principles. So I agree with the committee's recommendation to take a strong look at LEDs, but the figures need INDEPENDENT REVIEW by professionals who do streetlights for a living, not city or utilities staff who have a vested interest in an outcome. The figures quoted by Rob Helt are accurate, but historical, and in some cases reference decorative lights (like those in the downtown), and are inflated by ARRA's Buy America provision and the limited purchase size of the LED orders. These figures would definitely be lower for community-wide solution (25,000 vs 600) vs a pilot and not constrained by federal grant requirements. However, since the Streetlight program is run by the Utilities (but the city pays the bill), the fox is guarding the hen-house in terms of streetlights, which is why our office pushed the LED issue--to start a community conversation about the fact there are options on how we light our community and how to reduce our energy use.
IMO, at least one position for "sustainability" should be funded by our City's general fund to support the enacting of sustainability goals that should be adopted by our mayor and/or council and put into department head performance plans--that means at least one person to support, monitor, track, partner and enact. Real support from leadership in our community for the first time in any meaningful way would make a huge difference to the reputation and perception of our community. We did it from the ground up and our sustainability efforts as an office created meaningful paybacks to the general fund and created a true connection point to our government for many. It was also the first time anyone bothered to monitor and track the city's utility usage. In some cases, municipal government and our utilities are the ONLY entities in our region that have the ability to enact important policy changes to land-use, infrastructure, water policy, etc that impact all of us, our gorgeous environment and our pocket books. And before anyone starts blathering about politics or UN Agenda 21, or any other ignorance-based "sustainability" bashing that I'm NOT talking about, let's be clear: Green is green. It does have paybacks in many cases if done properly, supports our amazing natural environment and its our responsibility to be good stewards for our citizens and our children. It does have a role in our government, and supports our schools (that have goals), our military (that has goals) and our citizens (many of whom have goals). I was proud to be a leader of this team before I left, proud to grow it from nothing as a grass-roots effort, proud to work with so many great people who care (in gov't and out), and I believe we have a responsibility to be leaders on this front, regardless of politics, mayors or councils.
I hope this article does create some meaningful discourse in our community about the role of sustainability in local government and our utilities, and particularly starts up a conversation on LEDs and the role for at least one staff member to support a community of 200 sq miles and 450 K people. Otherwise, its throwing good money after bad and mortgaging our future. Oh, and I would love to see the City restore dedicated bike staff to the roster and vocally focus on meaningful bike planning again since it lost its talented staff. Its important to so many young professionals, is an important part of our fitness culture and is important to connected, multi-modal living. Overall, well written article and I agree with most of the teams recommendations on sustainability--but let's step it up. It matters. Okay, rant over.
One question I never saw answered here - Exactly how are the homeless expected to end up in Fort Lyon?
Most people don't know where Fort Lyon is even located.
Maybe COLO SPGS can move some of its homeless cases there....and get them out of our local Carnegie Library in the downtown area.
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