Too bad you stupid old democrats. I am
A Bernie bro who voted trump. When we told you HRC corrupted the primary- you scoffed. Sleep in the bed you made, stupid shits
Trump was elected simply because he told the people what they wanted to here. Not the truth, not reality just what they wanted to here. Hes a salesman. People are gullible and will buy anything they are told they cant live without. There will be no wall, there will be no high paying jobs, theres nothing to prosecute, the swamp wont be cleared, Coal jobs are not coming back and the trade agreements are going to do nothing more then cost us more for the goods we need. The Terrorists will attack more just to prove he cant stop them. He hasent even taken office and on the news this morning hes taking credit for the improvement in the economy forecast. Its a forecast people not reality. He has fed the ego of the voters that counted in order to feed his own. His late night tweets prove that. The few Republicans that opposed him and were insulted by him are now jumping on his wagon in hopes he can or will do something great so they can get a pat on the back. The Democrats put a person in that had way to much baggage after 8 years of every radio host telling them how bad it has been. Why do you think there was only those two running as Democrats? Were in for one heck of a ride and the only hope we have is the Vice President and the few in Congress that are Statesmen can hold it together.
Mick Ive backed you all along Ive given you your just due for your right to speak up but dude its just getting old now. We get it you didnt like Colorado Springs. Fine dont live here. I do like living here its my home and the few things I dont like or I feel need changed I advocate that change. With the problems we here in Colorado have does not make it the Hell you make it out to be. Ive been East and didnt particularly like it but I dont run it down at every drop of a hat or the people that live there. Enjoy Vermont be happy have fun and I and a lot of others will right here in Colorado. One of the great things of being American is our own personal pursuit of happiness.
Phillip Babbitt's letter is a very powerful letter. It should be read by everyone who lives in Colorado Springs and should be alarming.
This letter does not surprise me, I left Colorado Springs just over two years ago because I could no longer live among you folks. I moved to Vermont, spent two years there, Vermont rocks! I then moved to Maine for an employment offer, Maine is sweet, not as sweet as Vermont, but the folks in Maine are very friendly, accepting and the coast line is amazing.
I also believe what Mr. Babbitt is saying is one of the reasons your CC Tigers has fallen from a perennial NCAA tournament team, to one of the worst in D-1 hockey.
For a young person, Colorado Springs, the nasty right wing religion, the hatred of gay and lesbian folks that is so widespread does not seem like a fun place to live or go to school. So, young hockey talent is going elsewhere.
What young person wants to move to a city where they are going to be bombarded with extreme right wing comments, having to see open carry guns all over the place and having your right wing religion (it's not Christian) shoved into their faces. Just look at what is going on at the Air Force Academy.
Young people who do go to school there like Mr. Babbitt are going elsewhere once they graduate. Your town is not fun, your town and the majority of folks there are just nasty, angry folks, I didn't want to live around you folks anymore and I am 61, you are not an enlightening place where most young people like to live.
Unfortunately, I am convinced, you will not hear Mr. Babbitt as you will not hear me.
My suggestion to Mr. Babbitt and all the folks who hate living in Colorado Springs as much as I did...the northeast ROCKS!!!
People here are accepting, happy and fun to be around. It is beautiful here, you must come and see the fall foliage, and there is love here, unlike the anger and hate so prevalent in your city.
"Although the Electoral College should be updated to a more proportional system, " - David Naumann
The big issue with the Electoral College really isn't the Electoral College itself, but rather how the majority of the states implement it.
The Electoral College assigns the number of electors based on the total number of Representatives and Senators each state has in Congress. In the case of Colorado, we have 7 congressional districts and Representatives and each state has two Senators so that gives us 9 Electors in the Electoral College. Colorado, like the majority of the states, has adopted a "Winner Take All" policy when it comes to the assignment of electors. That means which ever way Denver and Boulder vote, that is how all of the state's electors have to vote.
Let me repeat, this "Winner Take All" approach is a STATE approach and is not even mentioned the Constitution or federal law.
Now, keeping in mind that the congressional districts are supposed to be roughly disturbed by population and are to represent the people, while each state gets two Senators and their purpose is to represent the state, to me the most correct way to assign electors is by winner of the congressional district with the remaining two be decided by the state legislature. The state could assign these two by proportion, by winner take all, or by legislative vote.
The down side to any proportional or district based assignment of electors is that it becomes far more likely that no candidate will achieve the 270 necessary electoral votes to secure the election, in which case the House of Reps elects the President and the Senate elects the VP. This has happened in the past and would be much more likely in a proportional Electoral College system.
"In response to "The winner loses" (Letters, Nov. 30): You do not live in a democracy. The United States operates as a representative republic. " - Bob Wolverton
Not quite. The US is a constitutional federal republic. It is similar to, but not quite the same as a representative democracy. You, Bob, have mixed the two terms. Here is the difference:
Democracies are rule by vote, can be direct or representative, and do not have an executive position.
Republics are rule by law, are always representative, and have an executive position which is not a monarch.
Mr Mabon, in reading your letter more carefully it should be required reading for every public servant in the country. Bravo - they work for us, not the other way around, tho sometimes it doesn't feel that way.
And in corporatist Trumpland we'll all be workin' for the man...again.
Mr Casimir, roads don't last that long. TABOR has lasted longer...and the longer it lasts the longer we'll be dodging potholes. It would be innovative if some of our great materials engineers could get that to work though...then maybe TABOR could work, too - NOT!
Tannim, let me get this straight - our current President, former Harvard Law Review editor, Constitutional Law professor who has a 57% approval rating and scares he crap out of Putin (as does NATO and the former Lady Secretary) is the fellow more than half the nation wants impeached? Math challenged, you are.
I would vote for Trump to be your operating surgeon any day - maybe he could correct your attitude with some fine hand gestures or something.
Mr Mabon, freedom from religion is every bit as important as freedom of religion. Tannim fails to acknowledge that the bible was written by men, and severely edited over the years. It stands on its own until some self-appointed direct line to the almighty wants to cherry pick and change interpretations.
Howdy again, Longtooth! Rick Perry won't be a problem - he'll abolish his job and go back to Texas! That's if he remembers what his job is...
December 19th, folks - early Christmas if Trump doesn't get to 270!
Again, to correct my screw-up, the website is asktheelectors.org. Also, this claptrap about 'bound' electors is not going to fly very far when the unconstitutionality of it comes to the fore.
Makeitgreatonce: read Malcolm Nance's "The Plot to Hack America". Trump is interested in making Russia greater.
Thank you for the advice Mr. Tannim, but I have chosen to pursue understanding of The US Constitution, our form of government, and how it has changed, beyond what was superficially covered in High School.
To describe our government as a "REPUBLICAN form of government" is to not understand that "republican" is simply an adjective describing a republic...sorta like redundantly saying "a republic is a republican form of government".
And I tried to make it clear that the term "republic", by itself, is NOT an adequate description of our form of government, as there are governments around the world that label themselves "republic" that have NOTHING in common with the US form of governance. The US is much MORE than simply a republic... or, as you express: "REPUBLICAN".
But the point of my post (which you chose to ignore) is the dismissal of democracy as the ESSENTIAL word to describe the spirit, indeed the essence, of how we have historically viewed our nation and its aspirations. I'm of the notion that Conservatives do not like democracy, and your letter reenforces that notion.
Aside: The Liberal ideology to maintain and expand the "common good" is what protects "the the rights of the individual". Without government (a democratic one) your individual "rights" would be a pipe dream. "WE THE PEOPLE" protect the rights of the individual. Thats why our Constitution begins with THOSE three words...not "ME THE INDIVIDUAL".
Rabbi Mel: I guess blessed are the peacemakers, but Trump's "I have great respect" is hard to take seriously after the last 5 years of disrespecting President Obama. It's just another lie, from someone who seems to be unable to tell the truth about anything at all.
Asawatcher: "I think what has most deeply concerned me over the last year or so is the Conservative assault on the cornerstone of the foundation of American ideological values.
Mr. Wolverton expresses that assault perfectly, claiming:
"You do not live in a democracy."
"Teach your children they do not live in a democracy.""
Clueless you are, padawan. The cornerstone of American values, as expressed in the Constitution, is a REPUBLICAN form of government, which means that the rights of the individual are respected and take precedence over the powers of government and majority rule.
Go back to high school civics and learn it correctly because it is rather obvious that you flunked it the first time.
Dave Joss: Here's an idea for you: HAVE A POINT.
Bob Wolverton: Well stated.
David Naumann: Changing the winner-take-all rule in the 48 states that have it doesn't require a constitutional amendment, just 48 state laws changed. "Updating" the Electoral College to a more proportional system is simple turning it into a scaled version of the direct democracy that you then state you're not ready to embrace. You can't have it both ways.
Melvin Glazer: You realize that your comments are on the Internet, which is the chief reason that which you lament doesn't happen?
I think what has most deeply concerned me over the last year or so is the Conservative assault on the cornerstone of the foundation of American ideological values.
Mr. Wolverton expresses that assault perfectly, claiming:
"You do not live in a democracy."
"Teach your children they do not live in a democracy."
It makes me wonder just what Mr. Wolverton thinks "We the People" means.
The term "Republic" does NOT, by itself, describe our political structure. The "R" in the old USSR for example, stood for Republic. And China (The Peoples Republic of...) is a representative republic. The representatives, however, are not chosen by the people, but by a convoluted process controlled by the Party.
Democracy is the ESSENTIAL word describing America's form of governing, and I wonder about those who are attempting to demean and disparage that concept.
We are in a domestic war against those who are out to destroy our democracy, and we just lost a very significant battle in that war. Gerrymandering, voter suppression, and now the Electoral College are powerful weapons currently aimed at our democratic principles and values. The sooner we all realize that fact, the sooner we can rally Americans to fight against these weapons fashoned for the destruction of American democracy.
We DO live in a democracy (for the time being) and we should teach our children that America was founded on essential democratic principles, and just how precious those values are.
Wow! Have you looked over the roster on this White PINS Party? Dismantle just about everything! Perry? Really? Gonna be a bumpy ride going off the rails on a crazy train.
Mr Terryah, you can crow now, but wait til you have to learn Russian.
Mr. Joss, you are exactly right, provided we don't get the Electoral College relief we are entitled to in the Constitution. It is not a small, insignificant voice tacked on to the elective process - it is the final voice. Contact electors at http://myelectoralcollege.com and make your voice heard.
Mr Wolverton, This tyranny is facilitated by duplicity in false news, treachery from Breitbart and is the tyranny of the minority, not the majority. By definition, the majority in a democracy cannot be tyrannical - it is the will of the people. It just may not be the result YOU want, but that's democracy for you.
Mr Naumann, you are correct in assuming that the Electoral College is in place to prevent the potential outcome of this most divisive election.
Rabbi Glazer, I commend your humanity, but Trump began his campaign in the ugliest of arenas where he questioned the nationality and citizenship of our sitting President...and he never apologized. His clarion call to the 'white nationalists' (read - bigots and racists everywhere) still has them dancing in the streets (as opposed to the thousands of Muslims who DIDN'T dance in the streets of New Jersey, another blatant lie he never retracted). We ARE divided by this man and his hateful rhetoric. Join with the Hamilton Electors and prevent his ascent to power - not doing so will spell the beginning of the end of our way of life.
Wolverton starts well, ends in fits. Trump simply wants to destroy China. Together with Putin, they will be the unopposed Empire. Iran can't do shit, except nuke Beirut. There will be no war on the DeathStar. The rebels will share the fate of the children of Aleppo. I have a Trump shaving kit made in China. Somebody really pissed him off over there. Europe will be on their own. Africa will continue to be irrelevant. Mexicans will actually be better off, white people don't pick strawberries. Cancelling bloated defense projects will be good for all except EPC, YOU CAN LEAVE NOW, LAMBORN, YOU WEASEL! Trump and Sheen, what's up? WINNING! More, tiger blood Charlie? You bet! Thanx Donald, ur a badass, men all over the world fear and revere you, Ceasar! Obama was a compassionate, eloquent, classy, prez. That is over. It's a brave new world where the KGB is with 45 and the CIA is not. Delicious Heyoka! The dark agent is a masterful instructor!
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