Thats true Dave when there was a hand full of States and a few thousand people they thought it was the best way to go. And it was. But now that theres 50 States and millions that need to have a voice the way we have it now in my opinion is the best. If we stayed a true Republic only a hand full would have a voice. LIKE CHINA. But we are a Democratic Republic with Representation. My vote is my voice.
There has been a dichotomy expressed by Trump supporters that a nation cannot be both a democracy and a republic.-- Bill Durland
Technically true. A republic and a democracy, even a representative democracy, are not the same things.
Republics are rule by law, are always representative, and have an executive position which is not a monarch.
Democracies are rule by vote, can be direct or representative, and do not have an executive position.
The US is a Republic, albeit with some democratic principles, specifically we are a Constitutional Federal Republic. We are not, despite the fervent assertions of many, a representative democracy. In fact the founding fathers specifically did not want a democracy.
The Democratic Republic that this Country uses does work. We vote as a majority then the Electoral Collegiate voters take the results of that majority in that State and cast the vote that represents the majority of that State. Its that simple. It was set up that way by our founders to stay true to our Republic while giving the people a voice. Back in the day the Representatives that were sent to cast a vote did so as they wished not what the people sent them there to do. So a Democratic vote was set up. Some times majority does not rule as in this case. More folks in the pockets of the Country that had the most Electoral College votes cast Trump. It happened before when Bush got in. If we were a full Democracy then we the people would have to vote everything that came down the pipeline. Every law, every person, all funding, everything, no Representatives. Now think about that. National votes for everything. That would cause the places with the most people controlling everything. Thats why we have State Representatives. Sometimes the Electoral College puts a fella in that the Majority didnt want as in this case but thats what its designed to do. Sometimes the majority rules sometimes it dont.
Susan Gordon: Well said, and I hope that the ongoing PFC problem doesn't cause your farmer's market to close down again this year, although I understand if it has to.
Paul McNeill: Build the museum all you want, but don't try to force the people to pay for it through taxes or government.
Kent Obee: They don't get the priorities.
Brent Weiner: Yes, good riddance to 2016, indeed; it was a crappy year for the most part. However, your lauding of big government is something else that needs to begone.
Mike Endres: You don't get it; the Indy didn't go by actual gender, they went by identified gender!
Harold Mason: Respectful cooperation goes both ways, so bug the Democrats on that; a serious budget was killed in each of the past 5 years by the Democrats, too; expanded health care coverage is not a federal delegated power (read your Constitution); infrastructure spending is a state issue; AGW is a political joke; equal pay for women is a marketplace issue, not a government issue; promoting alternative energy is the job of the marketplace, not government; essential regulations as defined by whom?; common-sense gun control is not made by regulation and restriction but by training and education; women's health is not a federal government issue; and immigration policy is a mess.
Frigging priceless, dude.
deplorables were only 50% of Trump supporters but Ryan fits in that 50% , morons, racists, religion zealots
LOL! Nice one Mr. K!
Odin writes, "General rule of arguments: The first person accuse someone of fascism is almost always wrong and is almost always an ignorant dickhead."
Don't forget the same rule applies to socialism, as so many "ignorant dickheads" demonstrated when accusing Obama.
For the last eight years right-wing ideologues have been whining about Obama, and they have been whining about Clinton for 24 years. It did not take any of them long to figure out that whining losers are objects of derision, as they themselves have been for so many years.
Bob Nicoll asks, "Want an orange slice?"
Watch out! A Trump (Registered Trademark) orange slice could cost as much as $25, plus tip for service, and chances are the supplier was stiffed!
Lil Mick, you haven't got a clue what fascism is or isn't, you just throw the term around to try to feel superior, just as you throw out your family's past service, which, by the way, pales in comparison to that of my family. Plus, unlike you, I served as well and did multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as serving in Bosnia and DESERT STORM.
General rule of arguments: The first person accuse someone of fascism is almost always wrong and is almost always an ignorant dickhead.
I am 61 years old, my father and mother both enlisted in the Army to fight the spread of fascism in Europe, which would eventually have come to our shores.
I am speaking of WW II, my mother joined the Women's Army Corp, and my father was a 2nd lieutenant who fought on the front lines in France.
My father took a bullet from a German soldier, shattering his right arm and went through major surgery, grafting his thigh bone to repair the shattered bones in his arm.
He is a purple heart recipient and to me they are both heroes who fought to keep their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren free from fascism.
Odin and Bob Nicoll, you are both cowardly, ignorant, disgusting human beings and this country and world would be better off without either of you.
You fucking fascist bastards disgust me!
Sally and Odin I think something we should all be wondering. Why didnt Putin retaliate? Or When will Putin retaliate?
Agreed, David Lien.
Very true, Norm Bangeman
LOL! Nice one Bob Nicoll!
"How sweet to hear that D.T. thinks Putin's decision not to retaliate after the U.S. imposed sanctions is smart and a "great move." " -- Sally Alberts
So Sally, what you are saying is that you wanted Russia to retaliate. Nice to know.
Rocky...you are correct, however, Trump is more than just childish, Trump has some serious emotional issues.
I am not a psychologist, I would love to hear a non-partisan psychologist's thoughts on this, but I don't think one needs to be a psychologist to see this. You just have to have eye's, ear's and a mature brain with a mature thought process.
Trump for some reason has not matured emotionally beyond the emotional maturity of an adolescent.
This explains much, it explains why the republican debate degraded to a debate on who's wife is the hottest, or who has the larger penis.
It explains why he cannot take any criticism, why doesn't care whom it is he retaliates for criticizing him, war heroes, gold star parents, disabled individuals etc.
It explains his obsession with tweeting out his retaliation to others in an immature and disrespectful manner.
It explains when a journalist asks him why not just stop the silly war with Cruz on who's wife is hotter and going after the other's wife, his response was..."well, he started it, why do I have to stop?" Any one of us with an adolescent child knows that line very well.
We have elected to the most important seat in our government and in many way's the world a child.
In my 61 years of life, I have never seen this country in such a vulnerable way as we are now.
Our country, our democracy will not fall from bombs from Russia, China, or North Korea, if that becomes a reality, it will be Mutually Assured Destruction. We would all lose.
Our democracy will only fall if we crumble as a nation internally.
My friends, we are seeing that happen.
Our partisan polarity has become so intense, we can know longer think like adult Americans. We have become blind from our hatred for each other and to the vulnerability we are creating.
Fellow American's, unless we pull together as American's and not republicans, democrats, conservatives or progressives, we will split to a point where we can not be put back together and our nation and our democracy will fall.
Hate to say it folks but its beginning to look like we all lost. Our new President is all hurt over the fact that our intelligence has proof our enemies helped him win. Aw there just trying to say I didnt legitimately win. When he should be saying I still won but lets not ever let this happen again. But wait he knows things. Right? Now we are supposed to pay for that wall he promised and expect Mexico to pay us back. Ill bet next we will here when they get there tax return they will pay us. Im going to drain the swamp but bring in the same ones that were ran out 15 years ago because they were crooks. Im going to deregulate the stock market but its not because I owe them billions. Damn people cant you all figure out we just elected the most childish man in this Country to lead us. With a shit load of childish promises. Why the hell do you think Russia was so happy he won? Biden said it correct "GROW UP" but I think it should have been aimed at the whole damn Country.
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