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Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Old, wrinkled, subservient hags can only weep into their Ensure because they know they're a dying breed--literally!--and that the measures and legislation they'd support to tell others what to do will never get passed.

You'll always be easily-led, frequently-manipulated, and outclassed by all you choose to engage with here; my condolences in advance for your future embarrassments, but I look forward to contributing to them!

Have a good night; may the nurses be prompt in changing you and turn you often so you don't get bedsores and I hope the lobotomy scar is healing nicely!

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 07/01/2016 at 8:51 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

poor angry old farts can only cry in their beers because they know the world is changing and will never again be as backwards as they remember... poor poor old farts...

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Posted by happyfew on 07/01/2016 at 2:46 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

"the rational thinking intelligent people will take over now"

Lemme guess: You consider yourself part of this demographic, yet can't even properly capitalize or punctuate?

LOL!!!

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 07/01/2016 at 10:24 AM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Gotta love the self-absorption and faux-indignation of a geriatric, drug-addled, entitlement-dependent, nursery-school deadbeat transient that thinks she knows better than others how to conduct their lives.

This trogolodyte actually thinks that gun regs which have never worked are a magical panaces that will cure violence, but the regressives she relies upon to pay her bills and provide her thoughts and opinions on this are inept to the point of staging catered sit-ins, complete with bathroom breaks.

(I'd embellish all this, but it's perfect as it stands!)

The country is changing, and the mindless, no-info rabble sucking on the gov't teat are fizzling-out; or is Bernie gonna be the regressives nominee? LOL!

Go back under the bridge and slam some MD 20/20--we won't ask what you had to do to "earn" the bottles--then take a dip in the creek--soak your "naughty bits"--and find a nice corner to patrol for pennies.

And by all means, shoot your mouth; it'll release some of the vaccum from between your ears and give us something more to laugh at...

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 07/01/2016 at 9:46 AM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

gotta love the certainty of the nra loving, drunken, redneck, pick-em-up truck driving, high school drop out, gun nuts about gun regulations. these nimrods truly think that the clueless teabaggers running the show now will be around in 6 months. the country is changing and the redneck and religious freak period is over. the rational thinking intelligent people will take over now. now go back to your double wide and drink a 40 oz. and get mad that you don't have a good job. shoot your guns... maybe it will help you feel better about yourself.

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Posted by happyfew on 07/01/2016 at 9:17 AM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Mr. Odin....

First, my apology to Odin, I read his post and thought it was Liberty, I gave Kudos to Liberty by mistake...it was Odin that posted a response to me without a single insult to me.

Lets have an awesome dialog, you and I Odin, I would love that. Let's start with the first point I made with your response.

My Point:
"You folks seem to continue to push this false message that gun safety legislation is going to take your guns away," - Lil Mick

Odin's Response:
Not all of them all at once. But countless legislators and politicians have espoused doing basically that by adopting restrictions like those in the UK and Australia, where owning even a shotgun is very difficult and everything else much more so, and where massive "mandatory buy backs" and turn-ins were held -- AKA confiscations and bans. You can claim that no one wants to do this until you are blue in the face, but you are only fooling yourself.

My Response:
There is nothing factual to this response, this is an opinion.

Question:
"Countless legislatures and politicians"
...ok, if they are countless, there must be a lot and they must be easy to name, can you give me a few who has espoused in taking all guns away from the civilian population?

...It's your opinion, which I will respect, but it is without any factual basis. Can't debate a factless opinion, I think you all do this and that is when the dialog goes to the crapper.

...I will stand strong on this as a fact, no one, no politician, no legislature is trying to take hunting rifles. If anyone did, I, as a progressive would oppose such legislation. I live in Vermont and hunting is very..very big here, I would stand side by side with you Odin and Liberty in opposing such legislation. That's a promise.

...So, Odin, if you can't tell me which of the countless legislatures want to take all guns away including hunting rifles, then my point stands.

...Saying this "You can claim that no one wants to do this until you are blue in the face, but you are only fooling yourself." Is worthless without facts to back it up.

Opinions need to always be backed up by facts in a dialog, or it is nothing more than an opinion and you cannot debate opinions, you can only debate the facts.

I still stand, no one is espousing that we take your guns away.

Right now, it is just background check loopholes, Assault style semi automatic long guns maybe, but not hunting rifles.

Your response is simply non factual...not true...and we need to stop this false narrative and really debate the facts.

Thank you Odin, for your willingness to talk to me as friends who simply have a different point of view.

Was this response both adult and respectful to you Odin?

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Posted by Lil Mick on 07/01/2016 at 6:24 AM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Is LFA the old malcontent known as "tejon tech"? Man, we are in trouble if Allen is armed.
Anyway, live by the sword, die by the sword.

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Posted by mountedmama on 06/30/2016 at 10:03 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

"insecure, scared and intellectually challenged people (more than likely on the government dole and not admit it) are hilarious"

Your's is obviously the voice of experience, but you're not "hilarious", you're pathetic in the extreme, and you write like there's a vaccum-chamber between your ears.

"the rest of us will make sure appropriate regulations will be put in place"

Bottom line? Nothing proposed by legislators has passed, and Congressional Dems had to resort to pentulant infancy and infantile posturing before it was over, which obviously has "inspired" you here, LOL!

Do you understand? NOTHING is going to be changed regarding ownership, so please continue with more goofy histrionics and sloppy diatribes; it only underscores how unhinged and unglued some uber-liberals become when they don't get their way.

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 06/30/2016 at 5:34 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Something like ninety percent of gun suicides are with a legal gun, owned by the deceased. Vitriol consumes it's owner. The second to last thing to go through your mind will be dissatisfaction.

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Posted by youth on 06/30/2016 at 4:15 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Cars and guns are dangerous, duh. Those that use them often die by their own hand. You will hear a "pop" and then this thread is dead.

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Posted by youth on 06/30/2016 at 2:46 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

"What's so cute about it Odin, " - Lil Mick

Because in the past you have tried to paint yourself as a civil adult by doing exactly the same thing and then immediately started insults and name calling. Then when you got handed your hat, you claimed you were leaving and never coming back. Now, seeing you pull the same stunt again, I have to laugh. Especially since you directed your "rules" at me specifically even before I made any post on this page -- which in itself would be a form of personal attack.

But, I am willing to give you a second chance. So how about you take on my second post?

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Posted by Odin on 06/30/2016 at 1:28 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

insecure, scared and intellectually challenged people (more than likely on the government dole and not admit it) are hilarious. cling to your guns... if it makes you feel better, but the rest of us will make sure appropriate regulations will be put in place to keep you "whack-jobs and moon-bats" away from guns. now angrily spew your nonsense little miss liberty.

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Posted by happyfew on 06/30/2016 at 9:43 AM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Liberty, your immediate response to my challenge was awesome. I read it twice and I did not find one single insult towards me, thank you.

I don't deserve to be insulted or called names or labeled and my views and opinions have value, just as yours do.

I will respond Liberty because you approached my comment and opinions with respect, that is all I ask.

Now....
Unfortunately, HappyFew, who is on the side of gun safety legislation brought us back down to the gutter of name calling. :(

Happy... Gun nuts?? Calling them Dumb?? Not good. Name calling does not help our cause, we must remain above that nonsense.

Then my good friend Liberty couldn't help himself, couldn't stand above Happy's insults and flopped back into the gutter of insults with Happy.

"Hyper-regressives. whack-jobs and moon-bats like "happyfew""...really...really... was that necessary? Liberty, you had the opportunity to rise above Happy's insults, but you didn't :(

..and Liberty, what does this have to do with the Gun conversation...
"Lemme guess, Mickey; you support Obamacare as well...."

Just one quick response to Odin...this guy can be even more insulting than LIberty...

Odin's comment:
""Rules of Engagement for an Adult Dialog" - Lil Mick
That is cute, coming from you."

What's so cute about it Odin, am I not acting like an adult? Do you disagree with what I wrote about rules of engagement? It's easy to write those words, now back it up, explain why my desire to have an adult conversation is so "cute".

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Posted by Lil Mick on 06/30/2016 at 7:32 AM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

"they are all incapable of having a rational conversation because they are dumb and use their guns to compensate for their all their lackings"

Didya all get that?

Anyone that disagrees with the frothy rantings of "few" is "dumb", and doing so out of a compensatory desire to overcome inherent short-comings based upon firearm ownership, which is the obviously the only way their ideologies can manifest themselves.

Miss "few"--I'll hereby pronounce it "F.U." as in, "Hey, F.U.!"--how do you attempt to overcome the multitudes of personal character flaws and intellectual liabilities you possess in such incredible abundance?

By posting unhinged rants devoid of fact/s or substance in public threads?

Wanna actually discuss studies done on gun violence--I've already provided a link to one, your turn, or is it easier to just implode, then explode--KABLOOIE!--for our general amusement?

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 06/29/2016 at 3:56 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Hyper-regressives. whack-jobs and moon-bats like "happyfew" are saddened because there are still some in the populace that don't need the gov't to think, act, do for them--a perpetual problem with personal accountability and individual responsibility is her's to overcome, not mine--and as far as political infleunce peddling; there's nothing like liberals who spend to get their way:

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2014/08/wh…

From the link: "One of the first things you may notice about the 2014 list is that of the top 20 organizations, only two favor Republicans. The rest, with the exception of one “on the fence” trade association, all strongly prefer liberal policies and Democratic candidates. ActBlue, long a major player in directing small contributions to Democrats, tops the list of organizations. In addition, 11 of the top 20 organizations are unions. This is a pronounced shift from 2012. In that election cycle, seven of the top 20 organizations favored conservatives."

"Few", I'm curious: How does it feel to be so wrong, so often, so publicly? Is this some form of masochism manifesting itself for our amusement, or are you an intentional plant by the Repubs to make liberals look foolish and ignorant?

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 06/29/2016 at 3:43 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

gun nuts can only regurgitate nra BS. the nra has stopped all true gun statistics analysis because they know it will show guns kill a lot of people and should be heavily regulated. they are all incapable of having a rational conversation because they are dumb and use their guns to compensate for their all their lackings. so go off gun nuts... it is the only thing you know how to do.

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Posted by happyfew on 06/29/2016 at 3:11 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

Mickey, this matter has been discussed, debated, argued and screamed about for decades; centuries, actually.

In the end, the 2nd stands unaltered, and shall remain so, regardless of the short-sighted, knee-jerk reactionaries than feel compelled to take action/s against inanimate hunks of metal and steel instead of those that wield them.

Far easier to tackle a tool than a person, or a flawed, ephemeral concept instead of the fact that crime rates have been going down for decades:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/us/study-gun…

(Except in hyper-liberal locales like Baltimore, Detroit, D.C., NOLA and everyone's favorite open-air range, Chi-Town, where the failed POTUS hails from):

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/ho…

Hundreds of millions of peaceable, law-abiding citizens own hundreds of millions of guns that will never be involved in any crimes--much less homicides--yet regressives insist on "helping" a fractional minority at the expense the vast, VAST majority in yet another example of pointless posturing and "Look, I care and am doing something!" self-aggrandizement and personal back-patting.

Lemme guess, Mickey; you support Obamacare as well, even though it's a legislative tire-fire, built on intential deception and falsehood, sold to the "stupid" (their words, not mine) and an expensive boon-dgoggle that has led to millions of policy cancellations and insurers that were to be a cornerstone of this leaving the marketplace.

Please Google the "Law of Unintended Consequences" when time allows...

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 06/29/2016 at 2:34 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

"Lets have a dialog on this..."

Well, Mick, I've actually provided factual evidence that your lack of support for the 2nd Amendment and calls for its abolishment are not only misguided and counter-intuitive, they're abysmally myopic and self-serving.

Again, if you don't want to own a weapon, that is certainly your prergogative, but it truly stops there, as decisions you make for yourself have absolutely zero bearing on what mine were, are or may be.

Bottom line is, such extreme and intrusive proposals are doomed to failure, and even suggesting them exposes you to exactly the kind of ridicule and disparagement you've been receiving here.

You want respect? Fine, earn it, which won't happen by suggsting you're the arbiter of what is properly Constitutional or applicable to me and my household. An example?

"the reason the framers added this to the bill of rights at that high of a position is no longer valid or needed in this millennium"

Says who? Just because you feel it's outdated and inapplicable in contemporary society doesn't mean others do, so please, save us the platitudes and faux-superiority; you're on the losing side of this debate, and shall continue to remain so, my condolences for maintaining lock-jaw subservience to such an inherently flawed ideology, and since you find yourself in such a deep rhetrocial hole, my advice would be: quit digging!

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 06/29/2016 at 2:18 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

"You folks seem to continue to push this false message that gun safety legislation is going to take your guns away," - Lil Mick

Not all of them all at once. But countless legislators and politicians have espoused doing basically that by adopting restrictions like those in the UK and Australia, where owning even a shotgun is very difficult and everything else much more so, and where massive "mandatory buy backs" and turn-ins were held -- AKA confiscations and bans. You can claim that no one wants to do this until you are blue in the face, but you are only fooling yourself.

"Background checks help to keep guns away from those that may want to harm others" - Lil Mick

Universal background checks do not. They were such a spectacular failure in California that they have continued to pile on more and more restrictions. In the first year in Colorado, there were fewer such checks done after the law made them mandatory than there were done voluntarily the year before. They are useless and unenforceable.

"and smaller magazines will give victims a chance to get away when the perpetrator has to reload."

Largely a myth. It takes only a second or two to reload. Most people can't even react fast enough to take a few steps in that amount of time and if a tactical reload is done (the Sandy Hook gunmen appears to have done 6 to 9 of these), then a person can still be shot during the reload. In most cases where people have been able to react, it was due to a malfunction (Tucson, AZ shooting) or a completely fumbled reload.

"To me that is common sense gun safety legislation." - Lil Mick

And to many others, it makes no sense at all. What you call common sense, others call common appeal. Just because many people believe it and support it does not mean it makes sense or will work.

Now, as to comparing cars and firearms. Driving on public roads is a privilege, not a right. We only license people to drive on publicly maintained roads. They can own vehicles and drive all they want on private property without a license. So compared to firearms, that would be the same as licensing for concealed or open carry in public places, but not to buy or to carry or shoot on private land. It is not the same as a background check.

As to the types of vehicles we can own and use, the restrictions are again only regarding use on public roads. You can own any vehicle you want and drive it on private property all you want. So applying your analogy, we could still own and shoot AR-15s, we would just not be able to carry them in public places.

"we need to discuss this issue, too many people in this country are dying from gun deaths, " - Lil Mick

The rate has been trending down even as the number of firearms in circulation has been dramatically trending up.

We need to quit focusing on the object used and start focusing on the behavior and the causes of the behavior. In simple terms, when it comes to gun violence, quit obsessing about the "gun" part and start addressing the "violence" part. With over 300 million firearms in private hands and over 10 million AR-15 type rifles in private hands, if the objects were truly the problem, we would be looking at a lot more deaths than we are seeing.

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Posted by Odin on 06/29/2016 at 2:05 PM

Re: “Centennial extension, the state constitution, 'welfare queens,' and more

"Rules of Engagement for an Adult Dialog" - Lil Mick

That is cute, coming from you.

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Posted by Odin on 06/29/2016 at 1:42 PM

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