Mr. K, here are the facts you've requested; perhaps you'll issue an actual challenge next time:
(Approval = 42.5%, Disapproval = 53.2%: a -10.7% spread)
(Right direction = 27%, wrong direction = 66.5%: a -39.5% spread)
(For the ACA = 37.7%, Opposed = 51.6%: a -13.9% spread)
ALL negatives--overwhelmingly so!--and indicative of what people voted for/against on the 4th. And RCP polls, being an amalgam of various sources, are about as impartial and unbiased as you can get, so looking at these values, we must deduce that you're the true "propagandist", and again, that's something you'll have to reconcile; as it doesn't seem to really be working in your favor here...
It is certainly true the recovery is not as good as one might hope, but let me remind you that I qualified my evaluation by writing, "Given the breadth and depth of the irrational opposition..." Had there been any cooperation whatsoever the recovery would have been that much stronger. It is just like that opposition, however, to sabotage all recovery efforts and, when that does not work, fault the President because it is just not good enough.
Mr. Faltz, you are merely a propagandist. You talk about facts, but you fail to produce any, while presuming to speak for "a vast majority." Your "vast majority" turns out to be the 42% of registered voters who turned out for the midterm elections. Even if they all voted unanimously for Republicans, that still would not even constitute a simple majority, much less a "vast" majority.
Mr. K, yours are merely opinions--not shared by a vast majority, by the way--and the facts clearly indicate that while Dubya was far from perfect, and largely incompetent in some matters, he was certainly not an architect of the kind of bass-ackwards social engineering and fiducial destruction that Obama is responsible for.
"President Obama still managed to steer our nation to economic recovery" - Well, he bottomed it out until there was nowhere to go but up, and it's taken him six years to replace well-paying, full-time positions with minimum-wage, part-time ones. Shall we bake him some cookies for this supposed "accomplishment"?
It's obvious you're still smarting over the mid-term results, but continuing to support an obviously failed executive, his party, and their ideologies is something you'll have to work out in due time; best of luck in doing so...
Mr. Faltz, your specious argument, even if it were true, would only bolster my contention that Bush was the most incompetent president of recent memory. Even if Clinton had been responsible for the initial policies, by 2008 Bush was in the last year of his second term, and in his eight years in office he had done nothing--not one single, solitary thing--to reverse this disastrous policy. On the contrary, he continued the policy because he thought it would buy him some political capital.
"I find it extremely humorous, Mr. Odin, that you bring up the so-called, "Bush Derangement Syndrome" and follow up, without the slightest trace of irony, by blaming former President Clinton for the crash of 2008!" -- Mr. K--
You need to learn how to read. I did not blame Clinton for any crash in '08.
"President Clinton for the crash of 2008" - Well since he--and his liberal Congressional flunkies--insisted that lenders like Fannie and Freddie issue mortgages that there was no conceivable chance could be sustained, leading to mass foreclosures and a market crash, there's no reason NOT to blame him. It's simple macro-Economics really; and feel free to research further, as the facts are readily available.
"Speaking of "Bush Derangement Syndrome," does that include the right-wing derangement of giving former President Bush credit for getting Osama bin Laden?" - Can't wait for you provide evidence that the GOP suggested this (links? ANY tangible method of verification?). And I'm sorry, did BO drop into the complex and pop a cap in bin Laden's ass, or did he just happen to be the one in office when it happened? Does he get credit for Hussein's capture and subsequent execution as well? LOL!
"You own Klingenschmitt...you will be blamed for his extremes" - And YOU own Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Charlie Rangel, Landrieau, Shiela Jackson Lee, Leland Yee, Morse/Giron/Hudak--well, you used to have them, but they're now disgraced--and many other wonderful folks, and not only were you "blamed" for their extreme flavor of legislation, you lost the Senate, several formerly "blue" governorships, and multiple state races nationwide in a historical thumping.
Guess the American people get the last/best laugh...
I find it extremely humorous, Mr. Odin, that you bring up the so-called, "Bush Derangement Syndrome" and follow up, without the slightest trace of irony, by blaming former President Clinton for the crash of 2008!
Speaking of "Bush Derangement Syndrome," does that include the right-wing derangement of giving former President Bush credit for getting Osama bin Laden?
"Effective in overseeing scandals such as Benghazi..." Apparently, someone has not yet heard the news that the Congressional Benghazi committee quietly released their report on Friday, exonerating the Obama administration and the Clinton State Department of any misconduct in, or mishandling of, the Benghazi incident.
"Effective in getting our credit downgraded for the first time in history?" Previously, I only mentioned the irrational opposition to President Obama's every word and action. I forgot the irrational blaming of President Obama for every mistake made by the so-called Tea Party Republicans in their short-sighted campaign against him. The fault for the credit downgrade lies squarely with the rabid opponents of this administration.
In spite of this grave blunder on the part of the extremist right-wing faction, and in spite of their continued obstruction, President Obama still managed to steer our nation to economic recovery.
hahahaha...the party of "Anything Obama likes we hate even if we liked it before!" is saying I am a hater? hahahahaha! You own Klingenschmitt...you will be blamed for his extremes. You will try to distance yourself, but I will not let you. Happy dancing still because we took back the NRA backed seats...that my friends is a huge victory.
I absolutely LOVE "dislikes" to my comments (you know who you are, and whose thrones you sniff). Gruber was/is correct; so, how does it feel to be shafted and ridiculed by the same administration you blindly supported?
"Given the breadth and depth of the irrational opposition to his every word and action," -- Mr. K--
You mean like the "it's all Bush's fault", "Anybody but Bush" AKA Bush Derangement Syndrome folks?
"Bush junior, on the other hand, took the wealth and good will banked by Clinton "
The US was already in an economic downturn during the last 6 month of Clinton's presidency.
"I am sure history will find that President Obama has been remarkably astute and effective"
Effective in creating an unsustainable debt/deficit that we'll have no hope of repaying if it continues unchecked?
Effective in getting our credit downgraded for the first time in history?
Effective in drafting/passing/partially implementing the most over-reaching federal legislation in history based upon lies and the "stupidity" of the easily led and duped?
Effective in overseeing scandals such as Benghazi, F&F, the IRS, the VA, the NSA, the border crisis, etc.?
Effective in being so detached and malleable that our foreign status is absolutely comical?
Effective in having such a poor record that he couldn't even stump for Dems in the mid-terms, when even his absence led to historic losses?
Effective in being perceived at the "worst" contemporary POTUS?
Effective in alienating not only the formerly subservient MSM, but Congressional liberals?
Effective in having absolutely dismal "direction of country", "state of the union" and approval ratings?
Effective at obfuscation when he promised "the most transparent administration ever"?
Effective as a golfer? Even Michael Jordan said he's "shitty"!
You know, Mr. K, you have a point, bravo!
I would not read too much into the latest election. The voter turnout was the worst since 1942. Some of the very same states that voted Republican also voted to raise their minimum wage.
President Obama is not the worst president of the modern era. That distinction belongs to George Bush junior. Given the breadth and depth of the irrational opposition to his every word and action, I am sure history will find that President Obama has been remarkably astute and effective. Bush junior, on the other hand, took the wealth and good will banked by Clinton and squandered them--rather, allowed Dick "deficits don't matter" Cheney to squander them.
Only Carolyn would think a serious spanking is a win.
And I agree with Dave H, she is one of the most hate filled people I have run across here or at the Gazette.
"We won! Big Victory lap for the lefties!"
The GOP gained House seats, won control of the Senate, and you're still stuck with Hick, Charlie Rangel, Reid, Pelosi, Biden and the "worst" contemporary POTUS ever.
If that equals success, I'm interested in your definition of failure...
I am stewing about nothing, my dear. Having watched your letters and posts here and at the Gazette for quite a long time now, it is quite clear you hate republicans, the devoutly religious, and conservatives, just to name a few. Your letters nearly drip with your hatred and intolerance. Oh, and the NRA actually did quite well on the whole.
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