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Re: “Survey: Marijuana not a driving factor for rising homeless population

HUD can say what they want and maybe they are right on paper. What matters to the local population and tourist is perception. Lets look at where Colorado Springs families and tourist go. (1) Downtown used to be a very clean and nice place to go walking and maybe get a bite to eat or a drink with friends. Now the sidewalks are filthy, homeless gather on corners and do what ever they do when they are hanging out. I have traveled around the world to cities like Berlin, Frankfurt, Panama City Panama, Seoul S Korea, and allot of major cities throughout the U.S.. When city streets are filthy and they look unsafe to families, it hurts businesses and the tourism trade in our city. (2) Manitou Springs is another family and tourist destination. I can say their sidewalks are definitely cleaner than downtown and the crowds of homeless are smaller. If people don't feel somewhere is safe to take their kids, they won't go. Tourist look at our city and see the dirty and unkempt areas of our city they won't come back or recommend it to their friends. Again HUD can make it all look good on paper but when you've lived here forever and have seen the changes, its perception that matters, not what HUD tells us.

Posted by John Place on 05/24/2017 at 12:11 PM

Re: “Stratton Open Space fire mitigation delayed after residents object to extreme treatment

I omitted the all important reference .... my post is meant to address that made by SteveJohnson1.

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Posted by Mur on 05/24/2017 at 10:59 AM

Re: “Stratton Open Space fire mitigation delayed after residents object to extreme treatment

Your comment, like the mitigation, goes too far. When the person in charge admits that the crews "went a little crazy" you are hardly on solid legal ground when you defend their actions.

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Posted by Mur on 05/24/2017 at 10:57 AM

Re: “Stratton Open Space fire mitigation delayed after residents object to extreme treatment

I live adjacent to the Stratton Open Space and fully support the fire mitigation that is taking place. I've seen first hand the devastation that has occurred in Black Forest, Waldo Canyon, etc. over the past years.

If the fire mitigation is not finished, I will legally respond to Kent Obee and others, in a court of law, and hold them personally responsible for any damages to property and loss of life due to potential wildfires that could have been prevented. Kent Obee and others need to think twice when they are more concerned about their afternoon hike versus the risk of life to other who live in the area.

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Posted by SteveJohnson1 on 05/24/2017 at 10:40 AM

Re: “Stratton Open Space fire mitigation delayed after residents object to extreme treatment

Mitigation through selective thinning is an important tool in managing our public lands. The problem I see is that these public agencies that handle the process sometimes cut too deep. Rather than giving the forest a nice selective "trim," and perhaps thinking they might not get a chance (or the dollars) to thin again for another 25-50 years, they sometimes end up giving the forest more of a "buzz cut."

What I see in the slideshow pics looks fairly good. However, I cannot imagine what they were thinking in planning to thin such a lush riparian spring area (in that last 8 acres or so). Thinning across the landscape should not be universal. North slopes, for example, are expected to be more naturally lush. And while montane pine forests often saw natural underbrush clearing ground fires and are better candidates for manual selective thinning today, the subalpine spruce / fir forest instead experiences "stand replacing" fire events every 200-400 years, and thinning in the subalpine should be limited. Unfortunately sometimes this ends up not being the case.

In this case, kudos to the city for pulling back on thinning the Stratton Springs border. That appears to be the right call. There is balance to be found. We can both care for and protect the beauty of our public lands.

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Posted by Zen on 05/24/2017 at 3:08 AM

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