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Re: “Public records laws don't always ensure a transparent government

In my own experience, the City routinely denies CORA requests and attempts to cite references to state law. The attorneys hope citizens will be intimidated by mention of CRS (Colorado Revised Statute) and the "" symbol. In one example this year, City attorneys denied a request citing a statute that later stated, when doing so they had to provide additional information that they did not do. The same reference to State law also had a later paragraph that specifically warned the information could not be denied in cases like the one I was seeking. My recourse? I had to prepare to sue and threaten to sue and the City relented. Had I gone to district court and lost, not only would I have had to pay my own court costs and legal fees, but also pay for the City attorneys' time who were loose in their interpretation of state law.

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 03/15/2017 at 10:03 PM

Re: “Venetucci family member issues plea for farm

It was my understanding that the plan was to shutter the farming operation out of abundance of caution until a determination could be made on the contamination effects on the produce from the contaminated well water that was used to irrigate the fields. If the contamination could be passed into the crops and cause health issues with the public... the liability of knowingly and willingly selling the product would put the future of the facility at financial risk. It was a smart if not the smart thing to do for future of the facility.

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Posted by Jonathan Mead on 02/21/2017 at 5:35 AM

Re: “Venetucci family member issues plea for farm

Fort Carson and the Catholic Diocese needs to step up and help out. I met the Venetucci's years ago. When I was in elementary I went there for the pumpkins too.. My son for a couple years went to the farm as well. I am sad to read about what is going on there. I have since moved away from CO after 32 years. I moved away last year and am saddened and shocked as to what is happening. I think both Carson and the Church should help out. My father served at that post and I was a member of the Church. Anybody and everybody should help out.

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Posted by Christina Williams on 02/20/2017 at 11:44 PM

Re: “Venetucci family member issues plea for farm

The Venetucci Farm has great historical value to the Colorado Springs area. Perhaps best known for their pumpkins and produce, the Venitucci farm contributed far more then vegetables to the community.
On July 13, 1942 the US government initiated a condemnation action to acquire 815 acres of land from the Venetuccis as part of a military camp that eventually became Fort Carson,for $10 per acre. The original acreage of the farm was 1020 acres. Following the sale of the 815 acres to the army (El Paso County assessors office. 1942) the farm was left with only 205 acres. The willingness of the family to support the building of camp Carson allowed the city to bring a military facility to the area bolstering the economy.
The Venitucci Family also owned very valuable water rights that supplemented their agricultural income. In November 1941, they drilled their first water wells: No. 1, No. 2, and No.3. The first filings of these wells were made with the state water engineer on May 1, 1945 (El Paso County assessors office 1930 6B reception number 206157933, book number 287, page 673 Warranty deed 915). Additional wells were drilled after that time. Other farmers in the area, seeing their success, began to also drill wells.
During the early 1950s, a serious drought situation developed along the Front Range. It became particularly serious in the pikes Pikes Peak Region during 1954. The Venetuccis entered a 10 year contract with the city of Colorado Springs, beginning August 2, 1954 to have water from their wells pumped to the city. Before the pipeline was completed the drought had become so bad that that Broadmoor's putting greens were drying up and the Broadmoor was on the verge of closing their doors. An agreement was made between the Venetuccis and the Broadmoor and in June 1954 and trucks hauled water from the farm to the Broadmoor until August 2 of 1954, keeping the Broadmoor open.
In addition, the Family donated a portion of their land to the Diocese of Colorado Springs for the construction of a Catholic Church. The farm was also dedicated by Colorado open lands as a conservation reserve for migratory birds and animals that have been pushed to the farm from surrounding areas due to encroaching development.
In 2003, Bambi and Dominic Venetucci decided that they wanted to keep the farm just the same as it was despite urban encroachment in the Security- Widefield area, and quietly contacted the local philanthropic organization in Colorado Springs known as the Pike's Peak community foundation to make an arrangement with them to take control of the farm. It was a lease arrangement which was to be in place for 99 years. Eventually the farm will be placed in a conservation easement, ensuring that the farm will be protected and remain a farm forever.
" The Venetucci Farm, preserved in perpetuity through the efforts of the Pikes Peak
Community Foundation, shall remain as a living legacy to the spirit and generosity of its
founders Nick and Bambi Venetucci. Established in the 1930s, the farm gained recognition for
giving away literally millions of homegrown pumpkins to school age children throughout
Colorado Springs. The pikes peak community foundation aspires to uphold this tradition, as
well as to offer educational experiences and agriculture and to create a rural setting for
community gatherings."
(Pikes Peak Community Foundation. 2007. The Mission of the Venetucci Farm).

I had the honor of researching the Venetucci farm for my graduate thesis at UCCS, Geography and Environmental Studies in 2007.
"The Family Farm as a Community Resource: A Case Study of The Venetucci Farm"
The above information is just a small portion of the contributions the Venetucci have provided to the Colorado Springs Area.

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Posted by Cindy 1 on 02/18/2017 at 8:28 PM

Re: “Venetucci family member issues plea for farm

I've lived in this are since 1975, and that lovely farm with its pumpkins, corn, and farm animals has been an incredible gift to my family and children, and then to their children. We've driven by there for all these years enjoying all the seasons the land on a farm goes through. It's "our" little piece of country in a growing city. Both Bambi and Nick blessed this entire community in so many ways, and what a terrible shame it would be to see their land fade away from what it was intended to be. Please keep that farm alive.

Barb and Skip Lynette

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Posted by Barbara Jurgensen Lynette on 02/16/2017 at 11:17 PM

Re: “Venetucci family member issues plea for farm

The people currently in charge were chosen for a reason. If they won't follow through and continue farming operations, take them to court and give it back to the family. It's almost planting time!!

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Posted by Rhino2 on 02/16/2017 at 7:58 PM

Re: “Venetucci family member issues plea for farm

As one of the many relatives of Nick Venetucci and Louie Pinello I wholeheartedly agree with many of the statements that Mary made. Much The same thing has happened to the Pinello Ranch. Which is next door to the Venetucci Farm. Where once deer came to feed on the corn stubble you now see heavy equipment moving the earth. The water rights are what made the land so valuable and the City of Colorado wanted the water. Yes people and organizations have tried to keep the ranch in good repair but it has to be a labor of love for the land. Grandpa Louie and Grandma Jessie raised their family there and I was blessed to grow up on the land earning a healthy respect for what it takes to be a rancher or farmer.
Sincerely
Billie Goodwin
Granddaughter of Louie and Jessie Pinello.

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Posted by Nelson and Billie on 02/15/2017 at 9:16 AM

Re: “Studies show link between behavior and diet

Well, there is a definite link between foods and behavior--just look at excitotoxins.

Maybe they ought to lace the inmate food with Valium--kinda hard to be violent when you're asleep all the time...

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Posted by Tannim on 02/02/2017 at 10:47 AM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

I do not care what the pros & cons are. I believe every person who is terminal has the right to end their life with dignity. No one knows what they are going through. I don't want anyone changing me. Feeding me. Touching me in a manner that I have no control of. I would rather have the option to end my life. I never want to live without being able to follow through on my ADLs. (Activities of daily life. ) I strongly recommend you grant the decision to the terminally ill. I will vote that way.

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Posted by Rhonda Deegan-Richardson on 10/26/2016 at 2:32 PM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

The truth of that matter is, that it is none of anybody's business when a person needs/wants to end their life with dignity. How does it possibly effect you? When I see extreme right wing conservatives rail against it, I want to scream at them for their insane hypocrisy. They have always maintained a position that they don't want governmental interference in people's personal lives, yet hypocritically believe that it is okay to try and tell someone what they can and cannot do with their body. I guess when it meets with their own personal agenda it's ok to interfer. Oh the irony is staggering

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Posted by Christin Mason on 10/25/2016 at 9:48 AM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Bill W.:

You have certainly outdone yourself in providing an absurd response this time!

You state that the: "widow of the driver [Ted Kennedy] of the vehicle in the fatal crash [of Mary Jo Kopechne] is now preaching about how we should die is both hypocritical and insensitive." How does the Ted Kennedy scandal of 1969 affect his wife Victoria Reggie Kennedy? He and Vicky met years later! and first dated 22 years after the scandal.

If you, Bill, want to be taken seriously, DO SOME RESEARCH before you post !

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Posted by Willam Nat on 10/01/2016 at 8:10 AM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Mr. Nat:

It is a delicious irony that you cite a Kennedy as having "the strongest arguments" against physician assisted suicide. I suspect the Kennedy family is a full spectrum away from your personal political positions. Politics aside, though, her husband never really answered to the family of Mary Jo Kopechne about the circumstances of her demise. That would make it awkward in my view for the senator's widow to advise anyone on the matter at hand.

Notwithstanding Kennedy politics and a mysterious fatal accident, the Kennedys, including, presumably the late senator's widow, are Roman Catholics. For them, suicide in any context is a mortal sin for which one will burn in hell for eternity. Mrs. Kennedy can hardly be considered a neutral or unbiased source.

I read the article. Mrs. Kennedy says:

"Kennedy argues that everyone wishes for a “good and happy death.” But passage of Question 2, she said, would not grant death with dignity, but would rob people of precious time with friends and family."

I can't help but wonder how Ms. Koepechne's family feels about that statement. They were robbed of "precious time" with their loved one. They never got the truth from Senator Kennedy. That the widow of the driver of the vehicle in the fatal crash is now preaching about how we should die is both hypocritical and insensitive..

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Posted by Bill W. on 09/30/2016 at 7:10 AM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Bill W.

I wasn't trying to convince you. I want to show people how dangerous this bill is. Massachusetts had the same bill 4 years ago and the voters defeated it.

One of the strongest arguments put forward then was by Ted Kennedy's widow, who called this kind of bill "cruel.". Here it is:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/10/2…

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Posted by Willam Nat on 09/29/2016 at 4:30 PM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Mr. Nat:

None of the flaws pointed out (by yourself or Mr. Williams) is fatal to Proposition 106. Could it be better? Possibly. Is it better than nothing? ABSOLUTELY.

You don't like Prop 106. Understood. However, you have shown no flaw serious enough to vote against it. You've had a chance to convince me that it's not worth considering. You have only convinced me that you won't vote for it.

You are right. It is literally a matter of life and death. That's why I will vote for it.

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Posted by Bill W. on 09/29/2016 at 9:06 AM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Mr. Bill W.

You say: "Prop 106 may be flawed. It is, after all, a "Proposition," most of which are flawed in some form." Yeah, but if this is voted in, it becomes THE law affected all citizens of Colorado. If it is flawed, voters should reject it and send it back to the drawing board. NOT vote it into law. Especially since this bill involves matters of life and death of vulnerable people!

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Posted by Willam Nat on 09/29/2016 at 7:31 AM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Mr. Bill W.

How would I be "offended by [your] support" for prop 106? That doesn't make any sense. I pointed out that someone can critique the details of the law and be opposed to assisted suicide in all cases. How can you dispute that? It's like being against a war but still pointing out that too much money is being spent on the costs of it.

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Posted by Willam Nat on 09/29/2016 at 7:29 AM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Bradley Williams:

And please accept my sincere sympathy and condolences for your loss as well. My wife had 18 months as well after her recurrence. They told her when the cancer came back that, statistically, she had 12-18 months. They were right...unfortunately. But she hung on as long as she could.

Bill

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Posted by Bill W. on 09/28/2016 at 7:09 PM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

I loss my wife too to hep c she contracted from a transfusion after child birth in 1983. I was her care givers 24/7 for her last 18 months. Please accept my condolences for you loss.

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Posted by Bradley Williams on 09/28/2016 at 6:42 PM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

Mr. Williams

"The source of this article is coendoflifeoptions."

That would make it the source of this discussion, as reprinted in a weekly newspaper. It's still not a source I have personally sought out or endorsed.

Thanks for your expression of sympathy regarding my source. Very gracious.

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Posted by Bill W. on 09/28/2016 at 3:41 PM

Re: “Proposition 106: The Colorado End-of-Life Options Act

The source of this article is coendoflifeoptions.

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Posted by Bradley Williams on 09/28/2016 at 3:38 PM

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