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Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

fishing4truth, I hope you realize that you quoted from the Hebrew scripture, not the New Testament...

Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 6:38 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

efcan, freedom to make a choice about whether you worship or not is exactly what the 1st Amendment is about...so freedom from religion is part of that equation. In Article 2 of the Constitution there is a section about there being no religious test for holding public office. Ergo, there is no religious test for being a US citizen either. Freedom from religion is a personal choice, as is freedom of religion. I choose the former.

Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 6:35 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Unfortunately, Lamar, the people you elect push your religious agenda. I'm tired of being labeled as a Christian hater - I am not. But government is intended, and always has been intended, to be secular. If you want a good example of what a religious state is like try taking a look at the Taliban or the Islamic State. Not for me. Please keep your religion out of my government.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 6:31 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Lil Mick-

I appreciated your writing, and would specifically like to comment on your discussion of taxes and paying them in the spirit of 'giving back'. I agree with this sentiment. However, I do think that we no longer have the representation I grew up believing we had. I think now is the time to ask how patriotic a German citizen in 1936 may have felt, paying taxes and joining the military to serve his country.

I agree with your Lakota friends in their assessment of white culture. I think by paying taxes now, we are simply paying taxes to the Wakiku God.

I have no problem with paying taxes for healthcare, roads, housing assistance, etc. I really, really have a tough time paying taxes to bomb innocent people in countries for our own economic advantage. Considering that we apparently have made no progress in actually properly providing healthcare, or maintaining or infrastructure, or teaching our youth, and this despite the overwhelming desire of our populace to do such things, tells me something is wrong. The fact that we've made incredible progress in bombing babies in other countries tells me something is really wrong! Of all the things we agree on, we agree we shouldn't just haphazardly bomb kids and families in other countries. But that seems to be what we are best at.

Topping it off, Liberals now are saying we have to vote for the candidate who has over and over again proven herself corrupt, and who defined her career as a Secretary of State with the toppling of Libya, which at the time had one of the highest standards of living of any African country. O yeah, she also is desperately trying to get into Syria, and a quick search of her emails on Wikileaks will show why. She's wanted to since 2001- in order to destabilize Iran and strengthen Israels regional position. O, and she also denies Palestinian attempts at statehood.


Wonderful liberal candidate. I am having an easier time departing from the democratic party now though, and even the label of "liberal", which have both seemed to equate themselves with normalizing world atrocities.


That's a tangent from paying taxes, but literally, how I am having an increasingly difficult time paying taxes which go to depleted uranium rounds to salt the earth of Libya, Yemen, Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Palestine, Syria, etc. -

Can anyone relate to that?

Posted by KyleJS on 08/27/2016 at 5:42 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

No where do I see Christians pushing people to learn about the gospel are making you listen to it. We give out tracks and invite people to church, we don't make you do anything. It's up to you, if you want to learn about Jesus and God. We don't hold anything against you, we just pray for you. I own a business and there are 9 Bibles at eye level in my office, never had a complete and one or two might be open.

Posted by Lamar Cantrell on 08/27/2016 at 4:50 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

One other thing - while I appreciate your sentiment when you thank me for my service, the extreme efficiency and effectiveness of my artillery unit's performance in the first trial run for the Vietnamese Army allowed Nixon to perpetrate his ruse and caused the war to grind on, costing 20000 more American lives than it needed to. I can back this up with direct quotes from the Nixon tapes and information gleaned from MACV after action report that have been unclassified. You can thank me by not voting nitwits into office at the local, state and national level so we don't find ourselves in this fix again. Unfortunately my war was not taught in schools sufficiently well enough for people to be able to see thru the ruse that the Cheney/Bush/Rumsfeld cabal set for us, and we're still in a hell of a mess. Speaking of hell, that's where you find it - on the battlefield.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 2:05 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Do not assume that God is not in my life. Know this - I accept responsibility for all of my actions and do not need the prayers or preachings of men to guide me. I reject the role of organized religion in society because of its historical evils - no one man can create a religion that controls others.

It sounds like you are worried about my eternal soul - don't. I am comfortable in my own life and skin and do not worry about heaven or hell. Einstein wondered why we spent so much time worrying about what would happen to us after we die when we should be working to make things better for everyone around us while we live. Makes good sense to me.

You are entitled to feel and believe how you choose - that's the beauty of our Constitution and why I would defend it against all enemies, domestic or foreign, to this day. I choose to believe nothing, challenge everything and live each day for the betterment of humanity. That I have no formal 'religion' does not matter to me in the least. Don't waste your time with a heartache over me...instead, find a secular way to bring all men together to solve the huge problems that face us and our progeny. In my life I have learned that belief is the most dangerous state of mind you can entertain - it walls you off from everything except that which you believe. Malcom X once said that a man who believes in nothing will fall for anything. I disagree. A man who believes in nothing will take the time to check things out...

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Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 1:49 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Dear vietnamized, Thank you for your service to our country! My heart breaks for you having to go through that in your life. My heart also breaks that due to the words of one pastor, that you have turned your back on God. All men are human, but not all men are humane. All men are created by God but not all men are the sons of God, and I hope that you can see the difference some day. Please do not condemn yourself to future, eternal, torment by keeping a hard heart against God, for the mistakes of men. You are worth something. God thought so when he took his innocent, sinless son, and sacrificed him for you and the rest of us on the cross to pay our sin debt so you can have eternal life if you so chose to accept it. I cannot imagine the horror that you have been through, or are going through. I can tell you that if you read this bible, and see for yourself who God is, you will see the difference between him and all of us. If you can read it all, and hold your hate at bay while doing so, then you will see that although God gives us free will and at times we mess everything up, he is also the life giving, loving father that will give you peace. Real peace. Please see for yourself. You have suffered enough haven't you? May the one true God bless you sir! Thanks again from dad96. Many thanks also for all of our vietnam vets, who were sacrificed for nothing, whether that were able to come back to us alive, or not. There are real scars imposed on our living vietnam heroes as well. Let's not forget that. Thanks be to the families of our precious vets as well. There has been so much needless pain caused by so many things involving that war. My simple words cannot even scratch the surface I'm sure. Peace to all!

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Posted by dad96 on 08/27/2016 at 1:16 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Although there may be similarities from one book to another, there is only ONE truth, thus one true book. Why I say this is there are also real differences. If there is real truth, ABSOLUTE truth which there is, then there can only be one true word of God which the bible claims to be. I am not going through all of the things that I believe to be false within the other religions, but I will say this... Jesus was beaten and died for our sins, past,present and future and on the third day after that he was raised from the dead and is in heaven as we sit here and talk. He did this for us, people who hated him then, now and in the future. He died for you if you so choose to accept it. It is not about religion, which anyone can distort, and turn into something bad. There have been terrible things done in the past in the name of Christianity, but those things are exactly NOT what Christianity is, or should be. This is about truth. This is about a LOVING God who deserves our love and respect. I am as far from perfect as anyone, but thanks be to the one true God who has forgiven me, and paid the ultimate price for me so that I can live one day with him. I am not trying to beat anyone over the head, just trying to let folks know that the bible is not the "hard faced rule book" that everyone thinks of. It is a loving guide book written by God ordained and God inspired men, to help people know the truth. I pray that you can see it some day. Please do not rate the bible on my, or others imperfections, as we are human like everyone else. Read the whole book and see for yourself. I will probably never be able to do it the justice that it deserves. Take care.

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Posted by dad96 on 08/27/2016 at 12:37 PM

Re: “Barney's Diner has apparently closed

Still hopeful that one day this old pillar of the community opens back up,,. Soooo many of these old businesses are disappearing and the new generations will never know who they were...

Posted by ModernHypatia on 08/27/2016 at 12:31 PM

Re: “Fewer Colorado Springs cops work the streets as crime rises

Audrey, the council is driven by public opinion, at least the opinions of those who get out and vote. I agree with you about added rules and regulations hampering the budget, but it's the squeaky wheels that get the grease and Suthers is pretty conservative...

There are too many people and too few resources (natural and otherwise) to cover all the bases. This problem will continue to grow because that's all it can do. Fearful people (the squeaky wheels) will continue to promote paranoia and "stronger enforcement of the laws" as we move steadily toward authoritarianism. Personally, I'm anti-disestablishmentarian myself - I'm for government that works for everyone!

Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 12:15 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Dad96, you should read all of the religious tomes and not restrict your knowledge to just one book. You will find them all remarkably similar. And read the complete works of Joseph Campbell, a theologian who taught religion at Brown University. He posits that all religions bear the same marks of humanity towards your fellow man...just in different forms.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 12:07 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

You are entitled to your belief, Maureen, but don't try to sell it to me - I rejected organized religion completely after a base camp memorial service in Vietnam for a close friend when the Chaplain told us all that God was on our side. We are all God's creations, if you choose to believe. I take another tack - we are all as human as we choose to be, and what is in your heart is who you are. The vociferous evangelical right has been working hard to compromise the Air Force Academy for about 3 decades now, and an Air Force general advocated for a "Holy Crusade" against Muslims after 9/11. Really? If you wish to pursue a 'Holy War' then you are the same as those you are fighting, just with different skin tones and languages - the ultimate reality is the same.

After writing 22 letters home to the families of my brothers who will never get older, after participating in the first days of Nixon's grand plan for "Peace with honor" (which was a ploy to extend the war so he could get reelected in '72), after having killed another human, no in anger but in defense of my perimeter, after experiencing uncounted TBIs from artillery muzzle blasts I say this to you - you want a holy war? Go get a gun and a plane ticket and head on over and get busy.

All humans are equal in my eyes, but not all men are human.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 08/27/2016 at 12:02 PM

Re: “Fewer Colorado Springs cops work the streets as crime rises

"55% of the budget is spent on police and fire" perhaps if council and Suthers didn't need to waste time and money making new ordinances over plants, there wouldn't be as much money spent? Looks like some more propaganda excuses from Suthers as to why...

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Posted by Audrey Hatfield on 08/27/2016 at 11:11 AM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Another case of The work of the devil on earth to eradicate God from the lives of His people. I have got news for him and all his agents. I have got news for you and all your agents here on earth. You were already defeated at the cross of Calvary and you will be again when Jesus returns for His people. You can go around screaming and yelling and trying to push your agenda through but in the end YOU LOST.

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Posted by Maureen Mizuno on 08/27/2016 at 9:56 AM

Re: “Middle school can be cheesy

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Re: “Hope swings eternal

@Melchett - I support Hope Solo and I agree with her view that as an athlete when a team doesn't come at you, when they clearly could have, it can feel like they are cowardly in not doing so. It is a feeling she expressed and I have no problem with her expressing her true feelings. I understand that not everyone agrees that she should express her feelings in a truthful manner and should make nice because that's what female athletes are supposed to do. I would much rather be represented by someone who isn't afraid to say it like she feels than someone who makes up lies to cover up their juvenile stupidity. I will agree to disagree on this with you. Have a day.

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Posted by Diane on 08/27/2016 at 7:05 AM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Glad to see common sense prevail for a change. It's time to be more active in getting this country back to a place where there is reverence and love for the one TRUE God and love for each other. There is a difference between not loving someone ( fill in whatever protected class you wish ) based on their belief, sexually, religiously etc. and accepting and celebrating it. There is a right and a wrong period. Whether people want to accept it or not. We need to be at a place to lovingly reject the fallacy that if it feels good at the moment than it must be ok to do it. What a childish, immature and senseless world we live in. I challenge the bible haters to actually read what they seem to hate so much. If you do truly read all of it in context and not pull individual texts out to twist the meaning to fit your hateful purpose, you will see that it is truly good. Anyone who is honest cannot deny that things are getting worse and worse in our country and the world in general. There is a logical reason for that. You know it as do I.

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Posted by dad96 on 08/27/2016 at 6:49 AM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

Reading the MRFF sycophants talk about "harassment" is both hilarious and pathetic. They are the ones doing all the harassing here.

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Posted by CJ Broz on 08/26/2016 at 9:32 PM

Re: “So you want to work in a dispensary?

Colorado.gov
Look up MED Occupational Licensing
Good luck!

Posted by Ryeonna on 08/26/2016 at 8:04 PM

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