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Re: “So how much is a hospital worth?

Before worrying about anyone else's properties, Doug might consider getting his own properties in order. Here's a fine example of his ongoing felonious activities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7j8MeLUO9…

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Posted by Owen on 06/01/2015 at 8:02 PM

Re: “City Council seeks volunteer food policy advisors

Have to agree Staci. With our basic infrastructure priorities, why is council sticking their noses into this subject? One clue is that its the Jan Martin clone, Jill Gaebler. Never enough nannies in the progressive nanny state.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 06/01/2015 at 7:10 PM

Re: “City Council seeks volunteer food policy advisors

Look at the streets. Do we need city government involved in the food chain?

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Posted by Staci6 on 06/01/2015 at 6:26 PM

Re: “So how much is a hospital worth?

Bruce was persecuted by the Gazette for owing $7500 in taxes. At the same time, the assessed value of Jenkins newly acquired property was reduced by $1.8M, which reduced the tax due. Which one is the tax evader?

From a Gazette article 4.4.14: "Centura Health, St. Francis' parent company, confirmed the sale. But Centura spokesman Johnny Rea declined to identify the buyer, why the price was a fraction of the property's market value or other details. That prohibition against discussing the deal was part of the sale contract - although Rea said he couldn't discuss why." The details were to be kept secret. Why?

If $2.5M is the cost of rehabbing St. Francis, why not demolish this not particularly beautiful building and erect a condo skyscraper? Are skyscrapers to be permitted only in and around the to-be-built stadium?

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Posted by curious on 06/01/2015 at 3:39 PM

Re: “Lamborn: Working for the Broadmoor

This isn't a bad deal for the taxpayers. The Broadmoor already has a long-term lease on the land they're acquiring, and in return the public gets a large inholding on the west side of Pikes Peak, plus insurance that Barr Trail will continue to be publicly accessible. The Broadmoor gets to own its improvements to Emerald Valley Ranch. Win-win.

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Posted by Jim Davies on 05/29/2015 at 9:19 PM

Re: “The Front Range fracas: Switchbacks vs. Rapids

Please look at the level of play. USL is not minor league soccer. USL has been around longer and has seeded many MLS teams. The difference is the $ available and spent due to corporate sponsorship. MLS gets the press because they buy it.

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Posted by Jim Hake on 05/29/2015 at 6:31 PM
Posted by Bryce E. Crawford on 05/29/2015 at 1:25 PM

Re: “The Front Range fracas: Switchbacks vs. Rapids

As the Founder of Trailheads SG (Switchback FC's Independent Support Group) I reached out to the Rapids FO after the Switchbacks (third!) defeat of Utah, and was told they have no ticketing info as of yet. As soon as they do I will have it up on the Trailheads Facebook page!

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Posted by ChrisE on 05/29/2015 at 12:21 PM

Re: “The Front Range fracas: Switchbacks vs. Rapids

Only in Soccer can a minor league team play a major league team in a tournament where the winner plays in an international tournament the following year against the winners of leagues/cups from North & Central America. Now they just need promotion/relegation. :-)

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Posted by dp72 on 05/29/2015 at 12:18 PM

Re: “Lamborn: Working for the Broadmoor

John Murphy...your disdain for anybody but the crony class is so evident. "4X4 Crowd" "maurauders" Check your principles.

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 05/29/2015 at 10:31 AM

Re: “Lamborn: Working for the Broadmoor

Here is the pervasive problem with politicians from any political persuasion. They are captive and beholden to the entities that fund their campaigns. Good for Zubeck for digging this up. Securing the Broadmoor's permanent unfettered ownership of Emerald Valley means millions to them so the investment in Lamborn's campaigns is a very worthwhile investment for the Broadmoor. Until citizens start to show some outrage for these kind of backscratching deals, our republic--at the local, state and federal levels--is doomed.

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 05/29/2015 at 10:17 AM

Re: “Lamborn: Working for the Broadmoor

Whoopie! Lamborn's second piece of legislation that might get signed into law with the help of members of the Democratic delegation of Colorado. Two pieces of legislation in 8-1/2 years passed at a total cost of $4.25M per piece of legislation. We voters of CO5 have really got our money's worth don't you think from this representative?

You have remember this is the same representative that cuts funding for our young military families, senior citizens and children living in poverty. You can see his priorities is with the 1% not the majority of his constituents.

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Posted by Gary Casimir on 05/28/2015 at 10:38 PM

Re: “Lamborn: Working for the Broadmoor

oh I cant even wait to see how the religious extremists tear Lamborn up for aiding the homosexual agenda with Polis...hahahahaha!

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Posted by carolyncathey on 05/28/2015 at 12:34 PM

Re: “Pondering sprawl

JO_URBANIST

First, if we are going to get into semantics about variations in density, I think its important to note that there is no precise definition of sprawl.

Second, studies indicate that artificial limits to growth are the single most important cause of high and volatile housing prices. Additionally, the implementation of artificial growth limits like green belts often have the opposite effect on sprawl. Instead of blocking sprawl, businesses and residences often relocate outside of the greenbelt and enjoy lower property taxes.The attractiveness of the surrounding area eventually increases, leading to further development and sprawl in rural areas. The next thing you know you have a special district popping up in the middle of an unincorporated area of your county.

As I stated before, every policy has a negative externality. Taking into account the dynamics noted above, how do you stop sprawl without actually exacerbating it? Is the solution a City and County of Colorado Springs?

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Posted by Colorado_Skeptic on 05/27/2015 at 11:32 PM

Re: “Pondering sprawl

I wont argue with you Leloupe. The NIH study was simply to spark discussion, but the follow-on studies I mentioned provide additional and relevant discussion points related to urban fatigue. There is certainly mental illness in rural America, but you don't get urban fatigue in rural America.

A rational person would recognize that the very fact that you have to employ urban greening to mitigate urban fatigue should tell you something about the psychological impact of high density living. You don't see rural municipalities transplanting a 12 story apartment building into their landscape so that Ted Kaczynski can cope with his mental condition. Why is that?

I agree that Colorado Springs is a far off comparison to Brooklyn, but I am looking 20-30 years into the future. Urban planning is about strategic long-term planning and shaping your future living conditions. My concern is not about moderate and visionary Urban Planners like JO, who advocate for mixed-use districts (I am a fan). My concern is for the more radical Urban Planners who want to impose their vision of high density living in a concrete jungle with a 12 x 12 shared green space.

This is America, so you have to consider that not all Americans want to raise their kids in that type of environment (no matter how incredible you think it is). You have to find a balance through the process of evidence-based proposals and civic engagement. Since this is Colorado Springs, you have to provide more definitive evidence of the positive impact of density (that is what JO's blog is about). What you cant do is expect the community to buy into increasingly higher density and TIF without presenting a good case for change. You also have to be upfront with the results and not cherry pick the data. Every policy has negative externalities, so you have to describe the good and the bad and present the costs to the community. Its not just about painting a rosy picture of your proposal and then a destructive picture of the current policy. An Armageddon approach will only go so far. You are asking people to make a long-term behavioral change and that takes more than fear.

Lastly, I would ask you to re-read the IU crime study. I am not sure you were able to absorb the salient points presented in the research.

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Posted by Colorado_Skeptic on 05/27/2015 at 8:22 PM

Re: “Lamborn: Working for the Broadmoor

At least he's doing something for somebody besides the churches. I think it is a fair deal. The 4x4 crowd had torn up the Emerald Valley road, left burned, stolen, car carcases up there and shot up the place. It was a menace to hikers and bicyclists. We can still hike up there on the pipeline trail and get up to Duffield Meadows, Miller Peak, and Black Mountain. I wish Rep. LAMBORN well in this endeavor as we will gain far more acerage than we lose, and the maurauders won't be there as you have to walk in on the land to be swapped.

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Posted by John Murphy on 05/27/2015 at 4:05 PM

Re: “Pondering sprawl

Thank you, leloupe, for writing this: "NIH study in Brooklyn... showed that those without family support structures are more likely to use hospital psychiatric services." Now, we know what was meant by "measures of household and family contact," a point that CO_Skeptic would not, or could not, explain.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/27/2015 at 2:15 PM

Re: “Pondering sprawl

Colorado_Skeptic your point is so ridiculous it barely merits mention. Let's get back to the real world. Colorado Springs will never look like Brooklyn. It will never be NYC, it will probably never even look like Capitol Hill in Denver or as dense as downtown Pueblo used to be. We would be lucky if we ever approached half the density of Munich or Prague.

The real world is that there is a huge maintenance tab to pay for all of the infrastructure costs of the building we've allowed, no matter what kind of development it is, most of which is SFH. You must not have kids here, because if you did and you loved them, you wouldn't want to pass them the bill for your high times.

I've heard the line before, 'we don't want Colorado Springs to look like New York'. This is said by people who already have a mental illness, paranoid delusions, and by people who have never lived there.

Let's take the converse of your plastic wrap argument. If we put you on the side of Pikes Peak all by yourself, and before we shove you out of the helicopter with a lifetime of supplies, we tell you you will never see another human for the rest of your life, what are the chances you will become mentally 'ill'? Or even simpler, let's try you in solitary confinement! Those are 'low-density' environments.

And, are you suggesting there is no mental illness in rural America? Rural America has nature right at its door step. But then meth, anyone? West Virginia is a low density place with great nature - look what they did with it! Aren't we all ready to move!

If you were so concerned about nature that people could experience (and not unusable bluegrass curb strips or soccer fields, ie suburban nature), you would be in favor of density not opposed to it. Please tell me you vote for TOPS extensions!

And, btw, your citations don't suggest what you massage them to be. The IU study found that crime rates are lower in industrial area, parks, and schools. No &#*$ sherlock, there's not as many people there, virtually none at night! And your NIH study in Brooklyn (from 1977, current research!) showed that those without family support structures are more likely to use hospital psychiatric services. Amazing finding!

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Posted by leloupe on 05/27/2015 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Pondering sprawl

We've lived in apartments and 15-story mid-rises; we'll never give up our SFH until dense dwelling units are fire-proof, sound-proof, smell-proof, idiot-proof, have 2 assigned parking spots and carry a long-term warranty on workmanship. TABOR is the cause of our failing roads and infrastructure; sadly, this city is doomed.

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Posted by OldCrank on 05/26/2015 at 8:07 PM

Re: “Pondering sprawl

Jo Urban

I am not advocating for sprawl. I am advocating for a wider and balanced discussion on both the negative and positive externalities of increased population density. You are clearly an advocate for walkable, mixed use districts. I enjoy them too, and I see the benefit, increased efficiency, and reduced infrastructure and maintenance costs they produce. So where does the equilibrium tilt into the negative for increased population density? How far do you go? Policy discussions must address both sides of an issue or they will ultimately fail during implementation (short-term or long-term).

Placing the previous study primer aside on mental illness, there are other very relevant studies related to urban mental fatigue. These studies indicate that there is a negative threshold related to the amount of mental stimuli produced by high population density urban areas and that the introduction of green space is needed to mitigate the impact of the high stimuli urban environment. I would also add that exercise is not exclusive to mixed use districts, but I am sure it provides increased opportunity. Again, I am trying to spur a balanced discussion on the cost/benefits of these policy recommendations.

"The constant stimuli of city life can be mentally exhausting, and life in the city can actually dull our thinking.1 In navigating the outdoor environment, one must continually monitor traffic and pedestrian flow while constantly focusing on where one is going and the means to get there. Constant response to even such low-level stimuli cannot be maintained indefinitely. A few minutes in a crowded city setting can cause the brain to suffer memory loss and reduced self-control. Even brief glimpses of natural elements improve brain performance by providing a cognitive break from the complex demands of urban life.2"

1. Lehrer, J. January 2, 2009. How the city hurts your brain - And what you can do about it. Boston Globe.
2. Berman, M.G., J. Jonides, and S. Kaplan. 2008. The Cognitive Benefits of Interacting with Nature. Psychological Science 19, 12: 1207-212.

I also noticed that no one has touched the University of Indiana violent crime study tied to population density. What say you?

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Posted by Colorado_Skeptic on 05/26/2015 at 6:43 PM

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