The intelligence of the founding fathers is probably 50-80 points higher than most of the liberals bleating about this being a violation of church and state, YET the constitution was written by these intelligent men, who saw the need to protect religious freedom.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
So although many people don't have the intellectual capacity to understand a higher power or religious beliefs. Others more intelligent do believe.
maybe this guy would like a burst of emails and voice mails telling about about another religion and atheist beliefs. see it isn't the fact that he's doing it but the fact NOONE WANTS TO HEAR IT......
You are very much incorrect, it is illegal for a government employee to push his religion on anyone while doing a government job. Why is it that only some Christians seem to think they have a right to shove their religion on everyone else. this as form of spiritual harassment and not only is done to non Christian people in the Air force but is even used against the Christian majority who do not do this to their fellows. Remember that most of the MRFF are themselves Christians and they are the one's complaining about threats like this. Most of the complaints from the Air Force Academy to MRFF have come from Christian cadets and Christian workers at the Air Force Academy. I am sorry but Christian bullies do not have any special right to break the law.
@krutawn: As a US Government employee Mr. Willoughby is in direct violation of US Supreme Court decision Lemon Vs. Kurzman (1971). This is case law which has been addended to the US Constitution and is currently relating to the First Amendment.
General Johnson is complicit in this by not exercising supervisory control over her subordinates.
In response to richardbk8, I am confused why you take issue to this matter. Allen Willoughby has in no way violated any military or Air Force regulations. Furthermore, the only actions taken by Allen Willoughby were in an email to the MRFF. While the email certainly enraged those at the MRFF, Allen Willoughby broke no laws by doing so. Maybe you should look at what actually happened. Even the MRFF doesn't claim anything illegal happened, they are just upset that someone at the Ari Force Academy is being public about their personal religion. That isn't illegal, though the MRFF has been fighting it for years.
It is amazing to me that a man of sufficient secular intelligence to advance to a high position at the Air Force Academy, subscribes to such a captive and primitive form of religion. I suppose that explains a lot when my mind wonders how anyone could be so adamant about proselytizing his faith that it violates the constitutional and regulatory aspects governing such matters. I am disappointed that the Superintendant, Gen. Johnson took no corrective action especially when the AFA has been the source of many religious infractions. I am sure the Military Religios Freedom Foundation will pursue this matter to a satidfactory conclusion. For your information, Willoughby is in direct violation of US Supreme Court decision, Lemon Vs. Kurzman (1971) in which the court ruled that the government, including Public Education and the Armed Forces may not recommend, promote, favor or proselytize one religion over another or religion over non-religion.
Maybe, now, the point will finally be clear to those in command. If not, I'm sure there's more where this came from.
Thanks so much for highlighting Teachout's commentary and so smartly posing the challenges we face at the FAC. I see this as a moment for exactly this kind of discussion.
Why don't we -- the FAC and The Indy -- take this discussion to the next level?
How about co-hosting some public forums on the possibilities? What can we do to bring more excitement and life to the FAC? In particular, how do we engage that babyboomer crowd?
I do think we need to be more audience-centric, while acknowledging that the most valuable things our directors and curators bring is their own specific taste and expertise. Focus groups that try to get at what people want usually tend to ignore the fact that arts audiences, like newspaper readers, don't just want programming that's been focus-grouped to death. They want surprise and delight, and the stuff that's not on the menu.
Still, it would be tremendously valuable to look for ways to create more significant community and audience connections.
What do you think?
Heey...let's stop...hait'n. All art is good becase, c'mon, we're all soo good & shi*t. I love you guys. I love aret, too, bitches. It'so all super distracting, but in a good way. Like love. Art is good: shaddup if yoo a haitah!
lol keep thinking we cant do anything and nothing will be done. we arnt finished yet, round two starts Monday.
The difference between "exhibiting" a great painting & "connecting audiences" with a great painting doesn't exist outside of speeches like Ben's. Is this a true distinction? An aesthetically pleasing false distinction for the current audience, possibly? The real problem is this: we hold fast to the idea that CULTURE is an inalienable right, like mail delivery. This is something we inherited from Europe. From an aristocratic culture, for whom high art always ever was, is, & will be for. This democratic culture has no need for art distinct from the mass media. Why would we be interested in "art"? & Why SHOULD we be interested in "art'? For the job security of specialists? Museums are trying to stay relevant to democratic tastes, which is absurd & bound to fail.
Is it the mission of a healthy art institution to accommodate the putative, changing taste of the public? Or should these art institutions conserve the artistic achievements of the past in order to educate a contemporary audience? The second option isn't as sexy as the first, obviously, but a museum isn't a contemporary art gallery (Adam Lerner may not agree). Floyd Tunson's "Son of Pop" was a powerful show due in large part to the art history that, not only his work referenced, but the context of the exhibit itself embodied - The Fine Arts Center. In a coffee shop or a commercial gallery, Tunson's work would have lost some of its capacity to dialogue with & critique a rich and complex art history that, were it not for art institutions like the Fine Arts Center, would disappear under a wave of changing popular tastes & technologies.
While I agree with his sentiment and am 100% for legalization. What is really going to happen is that 1 or 2 shops will be allowed to open that are owned by the people who have paid the council the most money and they will have a monopoly. I would totally support this is anyone who had the funds to comply with all regulations and the ability to pass all criminal checks was allowed to open a shop and compete in teh open market, however this is not the case and sickens me to support monopolization. Doesn't matter because in the end Monsanto will control everything anyway.
Do you support the new, revised, upgraded, expanded version of City for Champions?
Amy Lathen's support of C4C is surprising since she's a staunch guardian of public money and opposed to squandering tax dollars on frivolities. And C4C is a frivolity, pursued only because a portion of the money needed is "free" in the form of sales tax rebates receivable over a 30-year period. One of the 4, the UCCS sports medicine center, should be paid 100% by the state, and not COS taxpayers, since it is a state institution. What COS taxpayers, who will be paying the lions share of the cost of C4C, should be asking about the stadium/events center is DO WE WANT THIS FOR US, because it's US, the locals, who will be paying for and maybe patronizing it.
COS presently has 2 major events centers, the World Arena - located 4.5 miles south of downtown on I-25 - and Stargazers - located 2 miles east of downtown. Together they host less than 200 events a year. Stargazers will host 14 events over the next 3 months and World Arena will be used 18 days over the next 4-1/2 months. C4C promoters are telling Denver the new downtown stadium will host 200 events annually, which is unlikely, if not impossible.
COS citizenry has been told that after COS is awarded the sales tax rebate (on Dec 16) that WE will have an opportunity for input. Not true. The "free" money will be awarded for C4C and for no other projects. And after the "free" money is awarded there will be an intense push by C4C promoters to get the locals to agree to taxing themselves in order to not lose the "free" money.
Promoters of C4C have told the state that COS citizens enthusiastically support this proposal. Voice your opinion to Denver: Jeff.email@example.com AND Virginia.firstname.lastname@example.org AND Simon.email@example.com
What I would like to see happen to revitalize downtown is a gorgeous new library/media center on the eastern edge of America the Beautiful park and a bit further east, a year-round farmers market. These 2 will anchor the sodo area and spur development of housing, retail, and restaurants that the locals, as well as tourists, will patronize. And we can do this ourselves, without the state's "free" money.
'Enough with the hypocracy.' ...you got that right Mr. Mayor! Huge, just huge!
We now have another definition to contend with: People who go to the clinic for sports medicine advice are no longer called patients but now called "tourists". There is a commitment letter sent in with the application talks about a professional soccer league team that would like to use the stadium. Unfortunately the president of the United Soccer League- PRO Colorado Springs forgot to incorporate until 12 Nov 2013. A full seven days after signing the letter of commitment. USL-PRO has not disclosed their relationship with Ragain Sports LLC. Much less his commitment to use our stadium. However, several new themes and comments have emerged from this briefing:
"Having Fun doubling down with the City's Bonds" author Steve Bach (no this is not a tax right now.....:+}
"WHO's in your wallet" a take off from the Capital One commercial.
"Due Diligence is for Suckers" a take off from the C4C pro forma statement
"WHAT?-Me Worry" Mad magazine's take off of Doug Price's Media Circus
"The Emperor doesn't need any Clothes" commentary from the DeBachAL communicators guide to civic understanding
"What the City Council doesn't know can't hurt them" from the guide to strategic market timing- Doug Price (author)
"My term limit cannot be extended again so I will support C4C and run for mayor" Ms Amy Lathem (after all its only a application and not really a commitment)
"We can sell more popcorn and hot dogs in the stadium if they allow rec pot" Young professionals looking for jobs in Colorado Springs...line forms at city hall....
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SO glad to see that this will reopen. Kudos to Lutheran Family Services for making this happen.
Just like the "N" word is okay for Africa Americans to use, Queer is used by the LGBTIQ community instead of the full lesbian, gay man, bi-sexual, transsexual/ transgender, intersexual and queer. In Los Angeles, a college student center for LGBTIQ people is listed as "The Queer Center" so I think it's who uses it and how you use it. Colorado College wasn't using it as an offensive term but how someone might relate to the term queer as their definition of their sexual orientation.
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