No big deal. This is all free money. Comes from the taxpayers.
Wow, obliosupercat! You have a huge chip on your shoulder and a big a$$ burr in your blanket. So you are generalizing that all Olympic athletes are doped up cheats and your intel is supported by what? You're quick to judge and condemn a group of young people who are dedicated to their sport. But I'm sure you have heard about one or two athletes who did make some poor decisions and decided to lump all the athletes into that same category just as you probably do with all aspects of your life. Typical narrow mindedness at the purest level.
Building more parking downtown, regardless of who pays for it, is a step backwards - any funding spent on a new garage would be better off invested in making it easier for people to reach downtown without having to get into a car first.
But no sweat, Celeste notes. "We have an agreement; the gift is there. There's been no reason to go ahead with the land transfer until we're ready pull the trigger on the groundbreaking."
Almost sounds like they don't think the Olympic Museum is going to be built...
Shouldn't the cost of a garage for the Olympic Museum be included in the building costs of the Olympic Museum? If not, it must not be needed.
Does anyone even care about the Olympics and the doped up cheats we train here in the springs?
This sounds a lot like the city paying to build Nor'wood a garage for their building, but selling it to voters as being necessary for the Olympic museum.
The Jenkins family has their handout again. Colorado Springs biggest welfare recipients. Sad to know we will be seeing more Norwood style cheesy development.
Nice!!! Glad to be able to read you again!!!
Private meetings between the mayor, the chief of staff, and any member of the city administration with any member of the development community should be subject to the same 'Open Meetings' act that city council meetings must adhere too with the added provision that these city-developer meetings should pertain to 'two or more present' as opposed to the 'three or more' for council.
With that, there could conceivably be some degree of 'open and transparent' government.
Amen brother, amen!
Excellent words Laura!
"There's nothing wrong with not knowing. What is wrong is being afraid to admit you don't know, pretending to know OR NOT BEING WILLING TO FIND OUT." That's the one I think we are failing at as a society - complacency instead of curiosity, laziness instead of learning. "Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge." Kahlil Gibran
And it continues...what Jenkins wants with public funds, he will get. The parking enterprise can incur debt under TABOR with simply a vote of City Council. According to what the City liars proposed to the State for "City for Champions"(Jenkins headed up that proposal), local public funds would pay for this structure to support the museum and the Stadium (90% of which would be funded by City and El Paso County sales taxes). The cost: over $70 million, with interest costs on the debt. Whether it's funded by increased parking rates or increased hours of parking or by siphoning City tax revenues that would otherwise be used for roads and parks through the Urban Renewal Authority...one way or another it will be citizens paying the bills to benefit Nor'wood once again.
Like other great deals for developers, there will be a coordinated "public education campaign" with the City's PR machine that will sell it as a win-win for citizens.
When people like Jenkins use the term "a public, nonprofit and private partnership..." citizens should translate that to "public cost and risk and private profit." The existing "public/ private partnership" with Nor'wood has the development company running and managing the City's parking garage with no competitive bids for years running.
Prediction: council approves public funding and debt through parking enterprise and City tax increment financing through the Urban Renewal Authority by a vote of 8-1, even though "fiscal conservatives," Knight, Pico and King pledged not to do so without a vote. Even if the councilors hold to that promise, Jenkins and others who will profit from public subsidies will spend an enormous amount of money on the next City Council elections to get them ousted.
This is all going down exactly as predicted. Precisely why Jenkins and development interests have invested so much in City elections--the return on investment for getting guaranteed Council votes is probably better than 1000-to-one.
Your art absolutely ROCKS Jantzen! I am so proud of you. I am thankful you are here, that we are friends and that we will be working together soon!
People that complain about Colorado Springs, seriously need an education lesson on perspective.
Thank you so much everyone!!
Love you all!!
Your support means the world to me
Liberty...I hope your 4th of July was awesome....mine was, thank you.
The Bern marched in our parade this year, that was a real treat for us Vermonters, he is very loved here, across party lines.
"Are you the authority on what gets debated in this country?"
YOU'RE the one that has decided to arbitrarily decide which amendments are contemporarily appropriate, and which aren't.
"I am certainly debating the 2nd amendment"
No, you're not. You've asked for it to be repealed--shall I provide your verbatim nonsense?--which is just another sloppy, flacid attempt by some to make others behave according to their dictates and what they think is "right" and 'just".
Guess what? Your suggestion has zero traction and support, except from other simpletons that can't stand the idea that their families, friends, neighbors may think differently from them and make alternative decisions for themselves.
"The reason for the amendment, to build an army of civilians (militia) is no longer valid"
Your lack of understanding regarding this amendment would be astounding, were it not totally representative of how utterly ignorant you are regarding personal choice, individual freedom and personal liberty.
Look, it's obvious that you've allowed a detatched, omnipotent, "one size fits all" bureacracy to make your life choices--which is fine, as you obviously can't think for yourself--but I, and a majority of your fellow citizens, can still stand upright and decide what is best for ourselves.
Don't like something? Great; don't buy, support, encourage or contribute to it, but please stop yourself before you tell me what to do, or I'll just trample you underfoot and embarrass you for the simple act of suggesting you know "what's best".
Robert...what does this mean?
"There is no debate on The 2nd Amendment, it stands as is."
Are you the authority on what gets debated in this country?
I am certainly debating the 2nd amendment, and I will continue to do so as my right to do so as an American, just like you. :)
The 2nd amendment is vague and ambiguous, can you legally and specifically define an "arms" , it also protects the ownership of a certain privately manufactured and marketed goods and none other.
The reason for the amendment, to build an army of civilians (militia) is no longer valid.
I don't think we should be constitutionally protecting a particular privately sold good and no other, the wind fall profits due to this amendment to both gun manufacturers, sellers and gun lobby has been in the billions.
I believe this amendment should go, then we can move on with common sense gun safety legislation.
Until then, nothing will happen.
So my friend, let the 2nd amendment debate begin, just keep it respectful. :)
Yes, unfortunately HappyFew has brought the conversation back to the gutter that I really did want to get out of and have some real conversation.
The name calling and insults are really disgusting and infantile and they are thrown from both sides.
I believe Odin would be open to try, LIberty I believe is as lost a cause as is HappyFew. They just can't grow up.
If we could discuss openly, honestly and respectfully, we could get so much accomplished.
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