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Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

There could be a CEO job paying $100K plus perks that Lathen needs and can have when the visionary and revitalizing and revolutionary concrete and asphalt $200M downtown stadium is built. Despite being visionary, the proposed stadium will look just like all the other 200 stadiums located in cities big and small across America. Money losing stadiums are a dime a dozen, but our money losing stadium will cost $200M. Lathen, the ex-county commissioner and now defeated mayorial candidate - who came in last with a miniscule 11% of the vote - has been a major promoter of the stadium from the beginning. Perhaps her grandstanding support for building the stadium using $200M of the citizens sales tax revenue without a public vote was a factor in her defeat. Her name recognition, her self-professed faux stance as a solid fiscal conservative and defender of the people's rights (except when it comes to voting on the stadium), the friendly support of the Gazette, which published numerous of her op eds over the years, and being good friends with Important People in High Places, aka City Leaders, as well as being a City Leader herself didn't get her back on the public dole. I too hope Lathen's political career is dead in the water.

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Posted by curious on 05/09/2015 at 12:36 AM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

Mr Packs a Gun

Jan Martin does not need a job. She is a third generation native coming from a line of dedicated citizens who have served at the state level and at the city level for decades. She ran for office out of concern over the direction the city was headed - worked at a basic volunteer-to low income wage for eight years to do her best to improve the community.

She has had but one job in politics - the same job for eight years. She has not jumped from elected position to elected position as many of the local politicians - serving on one position for eight years does not exactly fit the description of a 'career politician'

When not actively performing in her role as an elected official, in the only elected position she has ever had - she was tirelessly, on her own time, working with a large number of civic organizations for the betterment of the community.

City government has been very fortunate to have had a long string of very competent and dedicated people in office. The 'career politicians' and bored housewives continually running for office: that is over at county government.

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Posted by Staci6 on 05/08/2015 at 7:46 PM

Re: “'Dark Money,' #RockTheVoteCOS, nonprofit ethics, and more

Matt - Agree with you re the sad but true motives of nonprofits. Always keep one's wits on high alert when dealing with the do gooders. p.s. I took your reco a few years ago to read Heather MacDonald's opinion pieces. Her and my POV dovetail and it's rollicking fun to watch her skewer the hopelessly wrongheaded intellectual elite. Have just visited City Journal and read a piece from my favorite writer on social issues, Theodore Dalrymple. Don't remember if you reco him or not. Dalrymple has a LOT to say about Britain's welfare system and the connection between dependency on the state and the resultant degeneracy of the populace. You wrote a great letter. Thanks.

Posted by curious on 05/08/2015 at 4:47 PM

Re: “USAFA steps up security

Can I get on base if I have a dod pass with FPCON 'B'?

Posted by Samantha Sartain on 05/08/2015 at 4:23 PM

Re: “USAFA steps up security

Can I get on base if I have a dod pass with FPCON 'B'?

Posted by Samantha Sartain on 05/08/2015 at 3:39 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

MrK- As a newcomer to the Indy, I will defer to your deep knowledge and experience regarding the inner workings of their operation.

So what your saying is, it is accepted practice for Indy reporters to skip any research needed to source meaningful content, then scramble at the deadline to find 'miscellaneous filler' to achieve a preset number of words? Lol, I remember those pesky 6th grade book reports, too. I guess some things never change.

Regarding your characterization of Indy content as 'too much information of too little value", does that apply to the entire publication or just the hard news section?

Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep that in mind as I comment on future stories.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/08/2015 at 1:44 PM

Re: “USAFA steps up security

Basically, all bases in the US were raised to FPCON Bravo. That includes Peterson, Schriever, Cheyenne Mountain, Ft Carson, and USAFA.

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Posted by Dave H on 05/08/2015 at 1:21 PM

Re: “Why Helen Collins is innocent, according to Doug Bruce

City Leaders failed in their $65K effort to recall Collins. WHO among the City Leaders paid $65K to get Collins off the council? This relevant information is a secret. Now City Leaders are using the strong arm of government to accomplish their goal. Yes, ethics charges should be filed on the City Attorney. And, in the pursuit of justice, Dede Laugeson, the wife of the Gazette's editorial writer, should be given a restraining order to stop her - and her odious group consisting of WHO? - from harassing Collins.

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Posted by curious on 05/08/2015 at 12:11 PM

Re: “Army to head for PCMS training ground

Email noise complaints and traffic mess:

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Posted by Bill Burns on 05/08/2015 at 9:35 AM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

"The type of watch party either matters or it doesn't. If it matters, tell me why it does and tell me about both." This is the crux of the matter. The watch parties do not matter. If they did matter, the reporter would have explained why, and would have examined the Makepeace party to compare to the Suthers party, as you expect.

The Suthers party was mentioned as a side note, a factoid of possible interest, but most importantly as miscellaneous filler to bring the article up to the right length by deadline. A person of reasonable intelligence will take this fact for what it is worth, and not form an opinion or select a candidate based on it. Perhaps some weak-minded individual would make more of it than it deserves, but the Independent cannot be held responsible for the misuse or misunderstanding of the information it reports. Besides which, such an individual will likely vacillate between the two candidates many times before the election, as he is bombarded with too much information of too little value.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/08/2015 at 9:23 AM

Re: “Why Helen Collins is innocent, according to Doug Bruce

I believe ethics charges should be filed on the City Attorney--not on Helen Collins. There is a conflict of interest in the process when the City Attorney provides the rules of engagement and overseas the process for the City's ethics code. Here the City Attorney is bringing ethics charges against a councilmember for "denying the City its due penalty" that her own office failed to bring in a timely fashion. Besides demonstrating ineptitude in her own department, it is shameful that the member of City staff whose confirmation and exorbitant raise was voted down by Collins is allowed to oversee the ethics process. This is corruption at its very finest.

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 05/08/2015 at 1:12 AM

Re: “ACLU to represent two men detained by CSPD

This is a clear violation of liberty by the CSPD. Unless there was probable cause for weapons, they had no business dragging these young men from their car. How do you think these officers would have reacted had they found a LEGAL weapon during their illegal search? My guess is that they would have taken the event to a more violent turn. There was no opportunism. Watch the video--the gentleman filming the incident was at all times courteous and any liberty-loving resident of Colorado Springs should be appalled that their police force is allowed to proceed in this manner with impunity. I fully support our police officers, but these two having a whole lot of explaining to do as does the CSPD.

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 05/08/2015 at 12:59 AM

Re: “'Dark Money,' #RockTheVoteCOS, nonprofit ethics, and more

"Term limits . . . wherefore art thou?" Common misconception: WHEREFORE means WHY, not WHERE. The famous lines from Shakespeare translate to, "Romeo, Romeo, WHY are you Romeo?"

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/07/2015 at 9:34 PM

Re: “ACLU to represent two men detained by CSPD

"... this guy was an opportunist looking for his 15 minutes." Couldn't possibly be that he was paralyzed with fear, or at the very least flustered, by the gun in his face! happyfew, you should focus your energy on trying to recognize blatant police abuse when it happens.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/07/2015 at 9:28 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

MrK- I truly believe you are smarter than your posts suggest. We've pretty much beaten this horse to death, so I'll leave it at this...

If this article were under an opinion or editorial heading, I would have moved along as there is nothing to see. In what is supposed to be a 'news' article, I'm disappointed in the not-so-subtle bias present. I have no problem with citing details. For the benefit of readers and voters, fill pages with them. I do call this piece out on how details were characterized and what details were cherry picked (or omitted) to leave a predetermined impression.

I have no problem with Mary Lou holding her own election night watch party. She can spend as much or as little as she sees fit and serve as much or as little food as she wishes on as many tables as she can afford to rent. But those details are missing, while the word crafting that describes Suthers' party leaves a negative impression. The type of watch party either matters or it doesn't. If it matters, tell me why it does and tell me about both.

Same thing with the pictures. While neither of these candidates will win any beauty contests, one candidate is shown smiling, the other frowning. Without looking, I'll bet you can guess which is which.

By all means, express your opinion of the candidates. Express a preference for one over the other. But if you chose that path, at least have the intellectual honesty to call it something other than 'news'.

You are correct - there is a huge devil in how these details were presented. Do you not deplore the devil?

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/07/2015 at 9:19 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

I stated no facts. I referred to the two events in the sentences you criticize with the understanding that my references represented the facts as presented in those citations. I left out all the details because they were already there in the article, and in your post, for anyone to read.

You "admire" my presentation precisely because it leaves out all of the details and the devil you deplore is in those details. Once again you are saying squelching information is the way to be unbiased.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/07/2015 at 7:45 PM

Re: “'Dark Money,' #RockTheVoteCOS, nonprofit ethics, and more

Agree with Casimir. Career politicians - afraid of losing votes, but not afraid of appearing stupid - speak with forked tongues. Term limits . . . wherefore art thou?

Our City Leaders are unconcerned with finding solutions to our very real problems. They just want us to forget our troubles and have fun. So to divert the pothole crazed citizens and bring some excitement into their dreary jobless lives, City Leaders will use $200M of local tax dollars and build us a downtown stadium. They know from their polling data that we don't want a stadium. But what counts is what the City Leaders want. Building a stadium is important to THEM because that is what is going to ignite a construction boom in the URA, resulting in gazillions of dollars in the developer's bank account and a rash of skyscrapers. If we can't BE Denver, at least we can build ourselves a skyline so we LOOK like Denver. Appearances matter. And that's a goal worth $200M, isn't it?

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Posted by curious on 05/07/2015 at 6:08 PM

Re: “This is not a test

"You can't judge a dentist on how many of his patients have cavities."

This is a nonsense statement. Assessments are judging what happens AFTER the "dental treatment" is given. Would you go to a dentist whose patients repeatedly get worse after spending $10,000 and 9 months getting treatment? No way! You judge a dentist by the results he/she achieves for patients.

It blows my mind that so many people don't want to factor in teacher effectiveness. It makes sense why the teacher unions fight it but no one in our society should be against measuring the effectiveness of teachers if the end goal is to improve student achievement and society itself. If you've got a better way to accurately measure it then propose it but, right now, these tests are the best measuring stick there is.

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Posted by Hunter Willis on 05/07/2015 at 5:35 PM

Re: “Barrier method

- The religious right doesn't want to lower the abortion rate, it will interfere with all of their mega-million dollar fund raising schemes and mind control efforts.
- The GOP doesn't want to solve the abortion issue either, it means they can't sucker the religious right into sending them their money or votes.

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Posted by OldCrank on 05/07/2015 at 4:13 PM

Re: “Online dating and the disabled guy

okay seriously? just from reading the intro to this it made me sad. everyone's got something they consider to be baggage. Finding a perfect match is more than just liking the things put on a profile. I know for a fact that if someone with this kind of condition was on Mesh, they would make intolerance of something so small a complete dealbreaker.

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Posted by Kira Stevens on 05/07/2015 at 11:19 AM

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