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Re: “Low-income workers just got a raise — which may or may not be a good thing

Sounds like his wait staff should be splitting some of the tips with the kitchen staff

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Posted by foregreen on 01/04/2017 at 8:29 AM

Re: “LGBTQ community allies show support

HORRIBLE, UNIFORMED INDIVIDUALS AND ARTICLE SHOULD HAVE SELECTED MORE INFORMED LGBTQ INDIVIDUALS TO RESPOND..... AND, to use the term "lifestyle" as though being gay is something one chooses is insulting. Are you concerned? Hell, yes!!!!
Every single one of his administrative appointments is anti-LGBTQ. Some, like Betsy DeVos, Trumps pick for Education secretary, have simply donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to anti-LGBTQ organizations. But others, like Mike Pence, his vice-president, have supported conversion therapy and signed legislation that sent same-sex couples to jail for simply filling out a marriage application. Which means that, despite Trumps apparent ambiguity on the subject, the lawmakers who support LGBTQ equality are very, very nervous and for good reason.

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Posted by Marlena Alvarado on 01/04/2017 at 5:33 AM

Re: “Low-income workers just got a raise — which may or may not be a good thing

A better way would be the "maximum income ratio". This means that the ratio between the highest paid employee, presumably the company CEO, divided by the lowest paid employee would be some fixed ratio, less than the current absurd ratios that we see now. Some really absurd ratios are like 360 to 1 in the USA. In Japan we see numbers like 10 to 1. I think that 12 to 1 or 20 to 1 would be healthy ratios.

This would preserve incentive while giving some semblance of equality. With minimum wage, some businesses just go out of business and the people on the top just keep giving themselves raises. In our society, no worker is 360 times more valuable than any other worker. Unlike lefties, I recognize the value of decision making, risk taking, and other CEO activities. But 360 times more important? That is obscene.

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Posted by Roger Bird on 01/04/2017 at 4:34 AM

Re: “Leadership title changes for board of county commissioners

For $113K - working on more substantive issues would seem important - as it is, a commissioner seat seems to be a full time paid position to campaign for the next election. Fortunately, Mrs. Clark rather ineptly handled the matter of county electeds having three terms! She finessed the issue to ensure she would get a third term and those to follow would not. One question that might need to be asked is if there is a need for a measure to limit commissioner terms to just one. Any thoughts?

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 01/03/2017 at 1:18 PM

Re: “Western Museum cuts ties with Haunted Mines after 10 years

Mr. Ducote,

I find myself agreeing with your assertion regarding the research for this article. Had a bit more research been conducted I am sure the true nature of the mining museum, Haunted Mines relationship would have come to light.

I too, have been involved with the Haunted Mines for the past several years as well as being in the haunt industry for over 20 years and the business community for over 30. I was fortunate enough in 2016 to be appointed to the Haunted Mines Board of Directors so I have had first-hand experience with Angels leadership and the toxic relationship with the mining museum. It is necessary to point out that the Haunted Mines is 100% volunteer. This includes all of our staff, actors as well as myself, Stacy and, believe it or not, Angel. No one at the Haunted Mines receives any monetary compensation for the hours of work we provide.

I pride myself on being a very reasonable and affable individual. When I first meet people I treat them with respect and deference. In tense, confrontational situations I try very hard to find acceptable compromise. It is for these reason that I was completely shocked and, to use a word, gobsmacked after my first direct interaction with the mining museum board of directors. A meeting was scheduled in early August with the museum director and one or two other members of the mining museum board. This meeting was to discuss the placement of the Colorado Fear Fest, a new haunted attraction owned by the Haunted Mines. Little did I, or my other directors know that this was actually to be a meeting with the full mining museum board. Regardless, I entered the meeting with an open mind and with the hopes of establishing a fresh working relationship. Unfortunately, the discussions from the mining museum board were condescending, demanding, and confrontational. As stated I have been in the business community for over 30 years, I was completely shocked at the treatment directed towards Angle, Stacy and myself. Had this been a corporate board room, I have no doubt charges of hostile work environment would have been justified. I found comments made and the attitudes of the board members to by borderline misogynistic. One of the most alarming exchanges had to do with moving a fence and painting the barns on the property. After donating over $120,000 to the mining museum in 2015, the board had the audacity to demand that the Haunted Mines move a property fence (one that had nothing to do with the Haunted Mines) and to pay for the painting of the two barns on the property. Interestingly in 2015, as a gesture of good will, Angel and the Haunted Mines board of directors offered to have the barns painted at their expense. The mining museum board rejected this offer and it was subsequently withdrawn.

One of the main things that has become very clear to me over the last 30 years in the business community is that you never insult money. Over the last three years, under Angels leadership, the Haunted Mines has provided almost $350,000.00 to the mining museum. Fifty percent of our revenues go to support them, we are their largest donor. To put this in perspective every other step we take, every other board we put into place, every other prop we design and build goes to support the mining museum. We do this out of love for our community and a passion for the haunt industry. For these reasons, the mining museums attitude and demands were that much more shocking. We, as a haunt family, continually bust our butts to create one of Colorados top haunted attractions, earning hundreds of thousands of dollars for the mining museum only to be insulted, condescended to and treated like dirt.

You attempt to bring derision on Angels leadership. First let me elucidate you to the fact that all three of the current Haunted Mines board of directors learned their leadership skills in the crucible that is the United States Military. We are all very proud veterans. I, myself, had the distinct honor to be an officer in the United States Army, leading our nations sons and daughters. I know leaders and leadership. Angel absolutely fits that bill. The one defining characteristic of any leader is that you put your people first. Angel is the embodiment of this philosophy. Yes, there have been volunteers that have left because they do not agree with the direction we are taking the Haunted Mines. Some folks want to keep it a back yard haunt where it is a free for all and anyone can do anything they want. Angel and the rest of our board look at things differently. This is a business that needs structure and direction. Expanding our offerings and opportunities is in the best interest of the community and our volunteers. We want to build an organization that provides opportunity for our volunteers to learn and grow as vital members of our community. To create a safe, welcoming place for anyone who wants to dig in and put in the work that is necessary. Unfortunately, not all our past volunteers have seen it this way. Some, have seen it as their personal play ground where they can spend the communitys money on their latest whim. Yes, these folks have chosen to leave our family instead of helping us build the future of the Haunted Mines.

At first, when a member of the mining museum board of directors delivered their termination letter, addressed to Angel, to my house, I was disheartened. Although dealing with the slings and arrows from the mining museum board has been challenging, the Haunted Mines has a ten-year history in our current location. I, honestly, was hoping something could be worked out. However, since receiving the letter (interesting that it was delivered to me when I wasnt home and that no meeting between the boards was called to professionally deliver this news) I have had an epiphany. Now that we no longer have the albatross of the mining museum around our necks we are free to truly engage in our philanthropic spirit and give much, much more back to worthy community organizations like Wescott Fire, Care and Share, Mercy at Miramont and etc. In actuality the sky is the limit. I have to thank the mining museum board for unshackling our creativity and philanthropy. More wonderful and exciting things to come from The Haunted Mines!

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Posted by HauntedDirector on 01/03/2017 at 1:08 PM

Re: “Leadership title changes for board of county commissioners

There's already a pay increase that applies to the three incoming commissioners, who take office on Jan. 10. As we previously reported: the three newly elected commissioners will see a hefty pay increase from $87,300 a year to $113,490. The raise was put in place by the Colorado General Assembly in 2015. The other two commissioners who weren't newly elected this year will remain at $87,300, but their successors will get the higher pay when they take office in January 2019.

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Posted by Pam Zubeck on 01/03/2017 at 12:53 PM

Re: “Leadership title changes for board of county commissioners

Hmmm, I smell a salary survey and pay increase coming. No other legitimate reason for new titles. They could at least be honest about it.

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Posted by 80923 on 01/03/2017 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Maketa, Presley and San Agustin reserve right to sue for malicious prosecution

Maketa should be sued for the "$821,496 on settlements with employees or ex-employees, attorney fees, and consulting and investigation expenses stemming from claims related to Maketa", plus all legal costs incurred. He was in charge and the buck should stop with him. Hold him financially accountable. He was being paid to do the right thing and he did not perform to reasonable expectations.

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Posted by 80923 on 01/03/2017 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Lamborn sought chairmanship of veterans committee

Such a light weight his own party wont promote him ....

But El Paso County you deserve him ..... NOT !

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Posted by actionjackson on 01/03/2017 at 6:11 AM

Re: “Update: Tim Mitros leaves his city job

I'm very sorry to see Tim leave. He was one of the good guys and did what was in his opinion right for the citizens. Very nice guy to work with and talk to. Best wishes to Tim in his future endeavors

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Posted by sandmarc on 01/02/2017 at 2:31 PM

Re: “Bean Pedaler, Old Chicago, Bubba's 33

Why are you reviewing chains? Old Chicago in a new location? The ridiculously busy Bubba's? Really... They all have enough business. Everyone already know about all the chains in town. I want to learn about local places. Please review local places and not chains that have moved or that everyone already knows about. I would expect those reviews from the gazette not the independent...

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Posted by Rebecca Repp on 01/02/2017 at 10:23 AM

Re: “Should city ask voters' permission to keep refund? Murray says "no."

If Mr. Suthers jumps ship (as county politicians are prone to do when they have signed on to serve the public but serving their own careers is more important) takes the Federal Judge position that the Republican Attorney General Association has recommended, then the line of succession will move the President of Council to the Mayor seat. How do you feel about having Merv Bennett as your Mayor?

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 01/01/2017 at 10:48 AM

Re: “City closes deal with The Broadmoor for Strawberry Fields

It's not quite over Ms. Palus. Perhaps don't count your chickens just yet.
But thanks for the heads up.
It's always good to know where things stand.

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Posted by doonya on 01/01/2017 at 10:12 AM

Re: “Should city ask voters' permission to keep refund? Murray says "no."

"Murray also notes that Suthers has said he believes anything that doesn't require a vote of the people should not be placed on a ballot..........

Now, Murray says that given Suthers' stance, why would the mayor ask voters' permission to keep the money?"


Because the mayor does not really have a stance. The mayor, like any skilled politician, says whatever will advance his agenda - and his image - in any given situation. These words are as fleeting as the wind and without substance.

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Posted by doonya on 01/01/2017 at 8:13 AM

Re: “Stop the damage, and free ride, from grazing of public lands

In his final days in office Obama MUST come forward and create binding legislation and measures to enforce against the constant flaunting of current legislation and guidelines. If it was up to me I would allow NO livestock grazing AT ALL on public land. You want beef? Eat less and pay more.

Posted by Giulia Latini on 12/31/2016 at 11:57 PM

Re: “Western Museum cuts ties with Haunted Mines after 10 years

Mr Ducote,
The Indy called me to ask what happened. I answered. They called WMMI to ask what happened. They answered.
We are parting ways and both businesses moving forward. We both had a chance to speak - and we did so.
Its interesting to me that you haven't been at WMMI for a year; however, you feel that you are able to tell a story you are not part of. Don't recall you as a part of any board meetings for either business? Certainly you do not know me personally to be able to speak on my character or my actions. In 10 years at the HM, I don't recall you at all.
Your personal opinion of an individual you do not know and a situation and a business relationship you are not involved in - is of no concern to a newspaper. She reported what she got.
Gossip is for The National Enquirer. Not The Indy.
Please refrain from further comments about myself. My staff. My business. Unless of course you would like to ask me directly? Since you know me so well, you should already have my number.

Good evening.
Angel Nuce
Haunted Mines

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Posted by anuce on 12/31/2016 at 9:44 PM

Re: “Western Museum cuts ties with Haunted Mines after 10 years

In response to Doug's comment:

As a volunteer at the Haunt, I have seen firsthand the lengths to which Angel will go in order to care for her volunteers and provide a professional environment for guests and partners alike. The "cleaning out" of volunteers to which you allude may be referring to a number of volunteers who either chose to leave because they were, under Angel's new management, being held to a higher standard of professionalism OR were asked to leave because they were behaving in an extremely inappropriate manner toward customers and/or toward other volunteers.

What you are labeling "entitlement" in regard to the property is, in fact, immense pride shared by all of the Haunt volunteers for this organization and the substantial funds it has raised for the community.

Angel is one of the best supervisors I have had the pleasure to know and work with, both in employment and volunteer experiences. I am saddened to see anyone attempt to drag her name through the mud under the guise of "objective reporting"... especially considering the high road all the Haunt directors have chosen to take throughout this transition.

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Posted by Liz I on 12/30/2016 at 9:57 PM

Re: “Artist Audrey Gray seeks a true blue hue in found pigments

The striking colors and textures are reminiscent of Southern Colorado and New Mexico. Lovely work.

Posted by Anton Delgado on 12/30/2016 at 9:42 PM

Re: “Artist Audrey Gray seeks a true blue hue in found pigments


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Posted by battysuesue on 12/30/2016 at 7:51 PM

Re: “Western Museum cuts ties with Haunted Mines after 10 years

Doug, your words could not be more true. I am glad that I am not the only one disappointed with the lack of research from the Independent.

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Posted by HauntedFamily on 12/30/2016 at 4:39 PM

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