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Re: “Fix our bridges already

Wow, Stacey....so true!

Posted by TejonTech on 09/17/2013 at 12:37 PM

Re: “Fix our bridges already

Did you know, that the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco was completely funded by San Francisco? That the Federal Government didn't chip in one dime? So if Seattle want's a bridge fixed, they should fix it. It isn't Omahas job to buy Seattle a bridge. And if you think Obama is gonna mail us all a fat check for this stuff, you are confused. Gas taxes, road use taxes, even the taxes from tire sales are all gone. Squandered by a government that used the money to buy votes. So if you want a bridge built, get out your Visa cards, you scraggly-bearded hipsters, it's everywhere you want to be!

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Posted by Stacy in Woodland Park on 09/17/2013 at 11:33 AM

Re: “My mother's abortion

Laws to make you pay for a sonogram along with the abortion adds big $, especially if you don't have medical coverage. Now they are allowing employers to dictate what our medical coverage will cover and not cover over religious objections like birth control. Give me a break! ( Are you also going to dictate what I can spend my paycheck on also? No MMJ? ) And do you know how much a woman has to pay out each month for reproductive needs? How about $20 for supplies for having a period and $30 or so for birth control. Just another way to sock it to women who get paid less than most men.

Isn't that an oxymoronic situation causing women to become impregnated? What if you are a low income family with 3 or 4 kids already? It takes time to save up the money, and now they are trying to restrict it with finances and by taking away the clinics, causing many to have to find a doctor and get an appointment within the time constriction. It took me two months just to get an appointment with a new GP doctor.

Conspiracy theory here- It's just another way to try to control women and our health. I think any man that wants to get a prescription for Viragra should have to prove he can't get a woody, get his wife's permission (or why would he need it and who else is he having sex with?) and lets add an CAT scan to that bill as well. What would you men think of that?

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Posted by gurudori on 07/16/2013 at 5:00 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Check this link out, could be a game changer in the next elections:

http://www.advocate.com/politics/election/…

Posted by gurudori on 07/13/2013 at 8:58 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

g: as stated previously, you should resist calling people names like "moron" when you are so clearly inferior in the intellect department. It simply makes you look all the more ludicrous. Additionally, I never once claimed you were making excuses for your "brain disease". I said you were making excuses for your pitiful and inexcusable spelling and grammar. I also inferred that you no doubt make excuses for all things in your life, unable to accept any responsibility (as your therapist has been telling you for years). If you had half a memory or if you cared to go back to the beginning, I told you it would not be fair of me to engage with you because of your obvious mental damage. You no doubt believe that everyone that sees you as a loud-mouthed imbecile (I'd wager nearly everyone on this board) is anti-gay and homophobic.

Posted by siggie on 07/12/2013 at 2:59 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

g: If you prefer to be sloppy and lazy and write like a blithering idiot, feel free.
And by the by, I have never seen you make a valid point.

Posted by siggie on 07/12/2013 at 10:50 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Siggie, you are a moron! I am not making excuses for my brain disease which I have had since childhood. Would you care to see the brain scans and medical bills from the past three years? Of course you don't want facts and proof, just like TT, you continue to blast anyone's character that disagrees with you. Poor siggie. Get a life, dude. I'm living mine!

Posted by gurudori on 07/12/2013 at 10:50 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Sure, siggie. Wake up and smell the coffee, this isn't a New York Times article I'm writing. Should I hire you to be my editor for a comment column? LMAO! Get a real life dude. You can't counter the legitimate arguments I make, so you have to criticize the writer instead, Just like bonehead TT. LMFAO at both of you! ;) guru

Posted by gurudori on 07/12/2013 at 10:47 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Talk Show Commentary on Pat Robertson's Facebook "Vomit" button comment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/12/p…

Posted by gurudori on 07/12/2013 at 10:41 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

g: "...and not a declaration that I would never post again." Wow, a double negative. Are you going to fabricate and excuse like you did the last time and attempt to call it a "typo"? I'm sure your therapist has told you that you will never get well if you continue to make excuses for your behavior, if you continue to blame others for your mental illness, if you continue your arrogance with nothing to back it up.

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Posted by siggie on 07/12/2013 at 10:30 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

One just for you, TT. PS- so sorry to bust your bubble brain, but I believe "OUT" was a short wave radio term for "good- bye" in the days of my youth and not a declaration that I would never post again.

Heterosexual Awareness Month Kicks Off, Facebook Page Offers Ways To Celebrate The Huffington Post | By Cavan Sieczkowski Posted: 07/10/2013

Hopefully you have been celebrating, because it's already 10 days into Heterosexual Appreciation Month! June marks lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender pride month, but July is all for the straights. Heterosexual Awareness Month, also known as HAM, began as a Facebook movement in June 2012 to challenge the "growing pressure and indoctrination from the LGBTP community."

Those behind the event intend to promote heterosexuality as the "important and life giving sexual orientation intended by nature." So how are the "hetero warriors" celebrating the second annual HAM? On July 1, they kicked off the party by playing "hetero music" and having the HAM intern get chicken sandwiches (from Chick-fil-A?) and waffle fries. The first Friday of the month, July 5, marked Straight Pride Day, and HAM supporters were told to wear clean black shirts (the anti-rainbow?). In a post Tuesday, the group wrote, "Kiss your spouse good morning and good night and celebrate acting normal!"

Coming up next is the Pancakes for Pride event on July 22, when supporters are asked to host or attend a pancake breakfast in honor of International Day Against Heterophobia. The Facebook page also features some encouraging messages for followers, like "Relax no one is going to mess with your butt it's JULY" and "Be Popular. Be Heterosexual!" This year, Heterosexual Awareness Month is honing in on Texas, the Dallas Observer notes. Texas HAM actually has its very own Facebook page filled with Biblical passages and random photos of animals. The group has yet to respond to The Huffington Post's request for comment. Last year, a member with administrative privileges to the Facebook page explained to HuffPost that HAM's message isn't about hate, but rather finding an equal voices for those who believe in "real marriage."

"We also believe that teaching children that homosexuality is normal is inappropriate. Militant (and we stress militant) homosexuals, due to political correctness, have become too powerful," the member, named Dr. HAM Ph.D., wrote in an email. This is not the only straight movement going on this summer.

On July 31, a joining of conservative groups will celebrate the first annual "Ex-Gay Pride Month." The Family Research Council's legislative affiliate, FRC Action, will officially launch two new ex-gay rights organizations, Voice of the Voiceless and Equality and Justice For All, at a dinner in Washington, D.C. Michele Bachmann has been invited to speak.

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Posted by gurudori on 07/12/2013 at 10:15 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

You care because you incorrectly wrote 'Guru Out' and then continued to post.

Posted by TejonTech on 07/11/2013 at 12:21 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

The long road home to love and acceptance

How a brave congregation saved itself by accepting a gay man as its pastor

by: Rev. Dr. David Bahr July 3, 2013 By Out Front Colorado

My little country church in North Dakota has a long history of sending people into ministry. There is a framed collage prominently displayed in the church of the more than 20 men and women who have become pastors and missionaries dating back 125 years. This is a proud legacy, one, despite the fact I’ve been an ordained minister for 20 years, I am not a part of, because I am gay.

I don’t pretend this doesn’t bother me. It really irks my mother. We’re still related to every other person in the church. I could quote Jesus and say “no prophet is accepted in the prophet’s hometown.” But in fact it’s just simple homophobia.

Not the kind the carries hateful signs. Not the kind that refuses to speak to you or bars you from entering – just a quiet refusal to acknowledge.

The author of a memoir set in North Dakota calls this “prairie silence.” Just don’t talk about it at the potluck over hotdish and bars.

But God bless my mother. At my father’s funeral she made sure the pastor read the names of all his children and all their spouses, including mine.

Ordination in the United Church of Christ requires a job offer. There must be a recognized calling that’s gone through a myriad of committees and the completion of the required education, but ultimately someone – a church, a hospital, a recognized non-profit – some entity has to want to hire someone ordained before an ordination can occur.

That has been a real stumbling block for LGBT people and women with a call.

The first ordination of a gay man happened 40 years ago, but it happened through an extraordinary ecclesiastical council, not a job offer.

It wasn’t until 12 years later that the first predominantly straight church chose to call an out lesbian to be its pastor, who was already ordained. By the time I was ordained, there were only about six of us serving in churches among our, at the time, nearly 6,000 churches.

In 1992, I interviewed with an historic church in Cleveland that once had 1,000 members but now had a high of 40 in worship, mostly over the age of 75. A church that once had some money, but after spending $40,000 to $50,000 a year to make budget, didn’t have much left. A dirty building that hadn’t been seriously taken care of for years. And they had a secretary who ruled the church with an iron fist.

When I interviewed, it was their third search committee in three years. They were desperate enough to try something different.

The first candidate chosen by the committee had been rejected by the secretary before the church could vote because his name sounded Jewish.

The congregation voted to call the second one, but he quit before he started when he learned the extent of the power of the secretary.

And now, a third committee. This time with her on it – more efficient.

Mary May Meister.

My first interview in June went well. I felt we gelled and they appreciated my experience of being a solo pastor in college and seminary. But I heard nothing.

No “thank you for the interview.”

No “we’ll get back to you.”

In August, I wrote a letter asking to be informed that I was no longer a candidate. And I got one, a letter saying that while most on the committee felt I was their best choice, a few did not and they could not risk a split in such a small church.

I was, frankly, a little relieved not to be going to a church that had assessed its own life at five years – three years before. Who wants a church ready to be closed on your resume? But a few weeks later, they wanted me back in the process. I reluctantly agreed.

In December, I was asked to be presented to the congregation: to preach, after which the congregation would ask questions and vote. But they suspected that some of the questions at the congregational meeting might not be all that appropriate. So, to blunt some of the worst of them, they designated a lovely 85-year-old man, a died-in-the-wool, John Birch society, conservative to be asked the questions and then for him to ask me, standing next to him.

It worked well for about 15 minutes. Then the nasty came. Salacious questions about sex, for which my front man just turned to me. It was awful, and in 15 minutes, they ended the discussion.

I was told to wait in the back while the congregation deliberated and voted.

I thought it might be better to let it go and go home, but I waited. And waited. And waited. And finally some loud commotion came from the sanctuary that included what sounded like outbursts of yelling and screaming. It was. Once they had gotten a calculator to confirm that 27 to 13 was indeed the necessary two-thirds majority, one person excited to welcome me took the microphone and spoke too close so it was a loud muffled sound. A few people clapped. There was a scream from Mary May. A few others said everyone there was going to Hell.

So then I had to go downstairs to greet everyone. I really wanted to go home. As I stood putting sweetener in my coffee, Mary May made a beeline over to me: “You can just go home and have sex with anything you want now,” she yelled. We’re going to have to keep our children away from you.”

I told her I appreciated her honesty and turned away and was greeted by six older women who took my hand and said, “We’re glad you’re here.”

On my first Sunday a month later, 11 of the 13 who voted no didn’t come, and despite all my uncomfortable visits to their homes, they never did.

Mary May sat in the back pew with arms crossed and fuming.

As word spread through the city of my impending ordination, with a big newspaper article, my box overflowed with hate mail. It just makes you wonder how people can have so much bile in them – and time on their hands.

The church that had promised to do renovations on our parsonage now backed out and said they wouldn’t.

At least the pastor took me to lunch to deliver the news.

Another pastor stopped by to deliver a letter from his church council that said that any ecumenical service where I would be a participant, they would not attend.

Then, with a plastic smile, he said, “But we love you. And I want to count you among my friends.”

A major donor to the UCC wrote to the president to say that if he didn’t stop my ordination, he would stop giving money to the denomination.

And a message left on the answering machine promised to burn the church down with me in it.

That I took to the police, who said they couldn’t do anything unless it happened. I kind of knew that, but at least the police chief knew, and I could inform him that there might be protesters at the ordination, as promised.

There was good too.

The Methodist pastor across the street organized a team to be on hand in case of trouble so that my ordination would not be interrupted. As it turned out, the only form of protest were hand written cards quietly placed on car windshields that said, “God doesn’t make people gay.”

The UCC president sent a letter back to the big donor saying he was sorry he felt that way, and then sent a letter of congratulations to be read at the service.

A hundred people who knew nothing of our church came to the ordination as a result of reading the newspaper article, and a few came back the following Sunday.

We survived on half a shoestring, attracting enough new people to almost counteract the number of people dying or entering nursing homes.

They had been right. As it was, the church only had the money and people left for a few more years. But it’s still there today, while every other mainline and Catholic Church in the neighborhood has since closed.

The congregation that hired me took a risk at splitting the church and opened the door for so many others.

But make no mistake, this is still the exception. And much, much worse has happened than ever happened to me.

A pastor in southern Minnesota had bullets shot into his house. Other churches have survived vandalism, including being set on fire. This is still happening, and will continue to happen for a long, long time. Which is one reason I think we cannot distance ourselves too much. It’s good to remember that we are an exception in the world, and it’s easy to forget that. But we can’t forget it.

There is a long road to build for others yet to come.

- See more at: http://outfrontonline.com/body-mind/faith-…

Posted by gurudori on 07/11/2013 at 11:00 AM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

g: why would I care?

Posted by siggie on 07/10/2013 at 4:51 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Guru...signing off with 'out' means you are done...'over' as a sign off puts it back in our court. By signing off with 'out', means you done, finished...so stick by your word and stop posting articles we are not going to read.

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Posted by TejonTech on 07/10/2013 at 4:43 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Here is one just for you TT & siggie- How to sue for damages from gay marriage

http://www.motherjones.com/media/2013/07/g…

Posted by gurudori on 07/10/2013 at 4:31 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Hello folks. You've got to see this clip: http://www.upworthy.com/a-room-full-of-big…

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Posted by gurudori on 07/10/2013 at 4:28 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Now that I've pissed you both off with all of my counter postings, are you gonna read my new E-book on Amazon.com "Adventures of a GWF REBORN? I've written 85,000 words on the lesbian lifestyle and erotica for you to critique, criticize, and condemn. How do you like that fancy writing? LMAO! GURU OUT

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Posted by gurudori on 07/09/2013 at 5:01 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

Pennsylvania Gay Marriage Ban Faces ACLU Challenge
By Chris Gentilviso The Huffington Post 07/09/2013

Two weeks after the Supreme Court ruled that a federal ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, the American Civil Liberties Union is bringing that decision to the state level.

The Associated Press reported Tuesday that the group is filing a lawsuit against Pennsylvania's same-sex marriage ban. The move will also aim to keep state officials from mounting further challenges against same-sex couples seeking to marry.
According to the Washington Post, 23 plaintiffs will be part of this lawsuit, comprised of 10 gay couples, two children of another couple and the widow of a same-sex couple that was together for 29 years. Susan Whitewood, one of the plantiffs, told the AP that her primary reason for joining the lawsuit was not "legal validation."

"I wanted our relationship to be respected like everybody else's relationship," Whitewood said. "That was first and foremost the reason for doing this."
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette adds that Pennsylvania's Defense Of Marriage Act defines marriage as between a man and woman, while also prohibiting the state from recognizing same-sex marriages held in other parts of the country.

"What we're looking for is for the court to say: Here we are in the 21st century, and you cannot prohibit somebody from participating in this wonderful institution we call marriage," Witold "Vic" Walczak, legal director of the Pennsylvania ACLU, told the Post-Gazette.

According to Washington Post data released on DOMA ruling day, same-sex marriage is legal in 13 states and the District of Columbia. Pennsylvania is one of 35 states to hold a ban by either state law or constitutional amendment. New Jersey and New Mexico stand as the only states with no law on the books for or against same-sex marriage, according to CNN data.

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Posted by gurudori on 07/09/2013 at 4:31 PM

Re: “How the inconceivable became possible

The Top 10: Facebook 'vomit' button for gays and other Pat Robertson quotes

By Leslie Bentz , CNN Tue July 9, 2013



Washington (CNN) -- Televangelist Pat Robertson wishes Facebook had a 'vomit' button. So that he could click on it every time he came across a photograph of a gay couple kissing.

Robertson who has repeatedly made clear his disapproval of homosexuality, made the latest comments Monday in response to a question he fielded from a viewer on his Christian Broadcasting Network show "The 700 Club."

The viewer wanted to know how to address images of same-sex couples on social media sites, such as Facebook.

You've got a couple of same-sex guys kissing, do you like that? Well that makes me want to throw up," he said.

"To me I would punch 'Vomit;' not 'Like,'" he added.

But they don't give you that option on Facebook."

It's not the first time Robertson, 83, has used vomit to express his sentiments on homosexuality.

Robertson has also said the land would "vomit out" those who disobeyed the commandments of the Old Testament.

Here are nine more controversial and colorful comments the evangelists has made that have gone viral:

On adultery

"Males have a tendency to wander a little bit. And what you want to do is make a home so wonderful he doesn't want to wander."

On a man with an Alzheimer's-stricken wife

"I know it sounds cruel, but if he's going to do something, he should divorce her and start all over again, but to make sure she has custodial care and somebody (is) looking after her."

Asked what about the "Till death do us part" part of the marriage vow, he said Alzheimer's is "a kind of death."

On Walt Disney World's "Gay Days"

"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you ... It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor."

On the role of a man and a woman

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household, and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

On feminism

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

On the devastating 2010 Haiti earthquake

"They were under the heel of the French, you know, Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you will get us free from the prince.' True story.

And so the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' And they kicked the French out. The Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after another."

On homosexuality

"Many of those people involved in Adolf Hitler were Satanists. Many were homosexuals. The two things seem to go together."

On assassinating Hugo Chavez

"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it."

On the tornadoes that ravaged the Midwest in 2012

"If enough people were praying, (God) would've intervened. You could pray. Jesus stilled the storm. You can still storms."

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Posted by gurudori on 07/09/2013 at 4:28 PM

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