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Re: “The park's toxic neighbor and renewable rural energy

"But the change Dr. James Hanson told us of then was global COOLING. That's right kiddies, we were told there was a coming ice age due to human activity." -- Stacy in Woodland Park

While I will not weigh in on weather or not humans are causing climate change -- the climate has always changed and will always change regardless of human activity -- I will point out that we are due to have another ice age. The most likely culprit will be the disruption of the "Atlantic conveyor belt" AKA Atlantic meridional overturning circulation AKA the thermohaline circulation in the Atlantic Ocean. This disruption will likely be triggered by a warming trend. Basically what this means is that both global warming and global cooling predictions could be true.

Posted by Dave H on 05/23/2013 at 4:15 PM

Re: “The park's toxic neighbor and renewable rural energy

Indeed, who would be foolish enough to think that science has actually advanced, and become more accurate, in the intervening years?

Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/23/2013 at 2:30 PM

Re: “The park's toxic neighbor and renewable rural energy

"I started thinking about the commercials Morse supporters were running," -- Jill Coleman

And remember that those commercials are being partially funded by his buddy Michael "32 oz" Bloomberg from NYC.

Posted by Dave H on 05/23/2013 at 1:08 PM

Re: “The park's toxic neighbor and renewable rural energy

"I don't agree with Sen. Morse on every issue but I know he cares about our community and passes laws that make sense." -- Mike Maday

The gun control laws he helped ramrod thru the Senate actually do not make sense. He flat out stated that he ignored and told his fellow legislators to ignore feedback from the community.

Posted by Dave H on 05/23/2013 at 1:05 PM

Re: “The park's toxic neighbor and renewable rural energy

only a fool would confuse peer reviewed science with a newsweek article regarding a person "wondering" about something. sounds like your education was from a red state where much mis-information is distributed... on purpose.

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Posted by happyfew on 05/23/2013 at 11:23 AM

Re: “The park's toxic neighbor and renewable rural energy

Andrea - the CO2 level did not reach an "average" record last week. The only place where this was reported was at the Mauna Kea observatory in Hawaii as per this LA Times article http://www.latimes.com/news/science/scienc… if you are basing your CO2 PPM "average" on one atmospheric station THAT IS WITHIN TEN MILES OF TWO ACTIVE VOLCANOES then you are somewhat delusional. Yes, you might find some fluctuations in the CO2 level with two volcanoes spewing it out all over the place. But here is the real problem with your argument. I was born in 1968 and attended grade school during the 70's. What we got told was that man-made climate change was going to destroy the planet. But the change Dr. James Hanson told us of then was global COOLING. That's right kiddies, we were told there was a coming ice age due to human activity. Here is a Newsweek article from 1975 wondering "Is global cooling causing the recent rash of tornadoes" http://denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm I am 45 years old now. And what I hear climate change people saying is, "we know when you were a kid we told you that you had to drastically change how you live your life to avoid a new ice age. Well, we were wrong. Not just a little wrong, not just a smidgen wrong, but 180 degrees wrong. So with that in mind, we now want you to drastically change how you live your life to avoid our latest predicition. And this time we're right, promise, pinky swear." Fool me once........

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Posted by Stacy in Woodland Park on 05/23/2013 at 10:33 AM

Re: “Praise for pastry guy and the critic, and a pet-poop plea

The 05/16/2013 at 3:34 PM post is in error

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Posted by Dave H on 05/16/2013 at 3:56 PM

Re: “Praise for pastry guy and the critic, and a pet-poop plea

"Being shot at close range by an automatic weapon"

Semi-automatic. 1 trigger pull = 1 bang. Much the same as a revolver. Full-autos (1 trigger pull = bang, bang, bang, ...) are already highly restricted items and have not been used in any of the recent shootings.

"with a 30 round clip "

Magazine. The difference may seem insignificant to many, but to those who know about firearms it is like the difference between shoes and socks.

"Asking people, some of whom may not be mentally stabl,e to submit to a background check - - and limiting clip capacity to 15 rounds (or 10 or 7) seems prudent in an increasingly violent society. "

At first glance, universal background checks and arbitrary mag capacity limits might sound like a great idea, but even a little bit of closer scrutiny reveal them to be nothing more than snake oil and these ideas fall apart. BTW, firearm related violence has been going down for some time.

"Yes, the argument is often made there are already 250 million guns in private hands."

Over 300 million.

The truth is that for 75+ years we have passed increasing restrictions on what firearms and ammo can be owned, who can own them, and how to buy them and there is no evidence that these laws have reduced the violence problem. In fact, in the years since some of these laws expired and the number of firearms in circulation has dramatically increased, the rate of violence with firearms has dramatically decreased. So clearly focusing on the object used does not work.

We need to break this paradigm of obsessing over the object used and start addressing the behaviors and their root causes (examples: education, ethics, economics, glorification of violence). Until we do that, the problems will persist regardless of how many gun control laws we pass.

The recall effort is the appropriate action to take. When an elected official passes bad laws, stifles debate, ramrods legislation through, publicly flips the finger at the people of Colorado by refusing to even look at or listen to our voices on the issues, and is subservient to DC and NYC, then we need to send a clear message to him and others that this will not be tolerated. By making excuses about expense or that he is term limited and will be gone in a year anyway, you are giving people like him a pass to do what ever they want without fear of being held accountable.

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Posted by Dave H on 05/16/2013 at 3:38 PM

Re: “Praise for pastry guy and the critic, and a pet-poop plea

Well golly staci, your "give and take" appears to be directing folks to a highly politicized web site or two. So where is your "expression"? You didn't "encourage lively debate" and it was only a "subject of interest" to you and yours. I certainly didn't "discourage opposing views" because you offered none. All you offered was SPAM.
And thanks for the advice. I generally disregard your posts as pablum.

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Posted by siggie on 05/15/2013 at 10:35 AM

Re: “Praise for pastry guy and the critic, and a pet-poop plea

Siggie,

Thanks. I choose to regard the two posts you refer to as participating in the give and take of expression in the comment section of a local press organ which appears to be a well-managed paper encouraging lively debate on subjects of interest and one that does not discourage opposing views. One option that appears available is that when you see my name attached to a comment, you could just skip on by and read the next one?

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Posted by Staci Lynne Holdt on 05/15/2013 at 7:07 AM

Re: “Praise for pastry guy and the critic, and a pet-poop plea

Staci: your above two posts come much too close to SPAM!

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Posted by siggie on 05/15/2013 at 6:33 AM

Re: “Praise for pastry guy and the critic, and a pet-poop plea

It appears as the link to volunteer to assist in stopping the John Morse recall did not 'take'. My apologies. One can email the coordinator at: project.unity@ymail.com Thank you!

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Posted by Staci Lynne Holdt on 05/15/2013 at 6:13 AM

Re: “Praise for pastry guy and the critic, and a pet-poop plea

Our system of government was created in such fashion that laws could be changed as the norms, values and mores of society change. Also, to adapt to changing physical conditions or situations that could pose a threat to human life.

Being shot at close range by an automatic weapon with a 30 round clip often results in multiple grief for victims and families. Equally often, in death. Asking people, some of whom may not be mentally stabl,e to submit to a background check - - and limiting clip capacity to 15 rounds (or 10 or 7) seems prudent in an increasingly violent society. Yes, the argument is often made there are already 250 million guns in private hands. But you cannot make corn flakes without first planting the seeds. If we do not begin now to curtail violent individuals from owning these weapons, when will we? Is that really a violation of our rights? We do have the 'right' to live and the right to alter conditions which will keep us from living!

Our system of government also is one that creates spirited debate on many issues, which is healthy. Our side of the current gun control legislation, and the resultant recall effort against Senator John Morse is that this is not an appropriate action to take, it is quite expensive to field special elections, there are fewer than 14 months to a term limit and it is likely this seat cannot be taken over by a member of the opposite party in a special election. Therefore, is it prudent to spend perhaps a quarter of a million dollars to recall what has been a good public servant to date, with 14 months to go?

If you feel as we do - please sign up to volunteer with us to halt this recall effort. Everybody has rights!

http://obsurvey.com/S2.aspx?id=B2782134-C0…

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Posted by Staci Lynne Holdt on 05/15/2013 at 6:02 AM

Re: “Kudos for King, a Facebook fracas, and more gun voices

Alecto,

You obviously do not hunt much. Many REAL hunters use semi-auto firearms.

BTW, your bolt-action rifle? That was a "war weapon" too.

NONE of the laws passed or proposed at the Colorado or federal level for the last 20 years affect full-auto firearms, which are already highly restricted items.

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Posted by Dave H on 05/10/2013 at 9:11 AM

Re: “Kudos for King, a Facebook fracas, and more gun voices

Melanie,

Why is it brave and courageous to brag about your sexual exploits? We used to consider that sort of kiss and tell to be ill mannered and not what honorable men would do.

At best his adolescent sexual behavior outside of moral norms is simply immature. His having to tell us about it is just plain pathetic.

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Posted by TejonTech on 05/10/2013 at 8:55 AM

Re: “Kudos for King, a Facebook fracas, and more gun voices

I grew up with guns (rifles & shotguns) and hunting - accompanying father and his dogs duck hunting and rabit hunting at age 3 and deer hunting at 11. Father's hunting put food on our table in our poverty, and he cried with every success for the beautiful creature that gave it's life that we might live. As a teenage girl I lost interest in hunting. That interest returned 25 years later in the 90's when the economy started going south for many of us here in the USA and free range, organic meat at $2.00/pound became worth the time, work and stink of hunting and gutting - and the pain of watching the life leave those eyes that I might have some protein on my table. One young doe a year and maybe a turkey is plenty for two people in my opinion.

Hunting is far more about learning, tracking and patience than it is about shooting. Real Hunters have nothing but disdain for idiots with high power, high-tech weapons that know nothing about hunting, are a danger to themselves and other hunters, and have no respect for the hunted. It is the fools with War Weapons that are most likely to kill and leave the meat to rot. Most of the Real Hunters I know joke about shooting these fools and leaving them to rot - but are all too moral to actually follow through.

If you know how to hunt and meat is what you are after, one bullet does the job. And if you are not going to eat it - you should not shoot it.

I don't know any Real Hunters that use automatic or semi-automatic weapons. All the Real Hunters I know want those War Weapons out of the woods and fields.

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Posted by Alecto on 05/09/2013 at 7:53 AM

Re: “Kudos for King, a Facebook fracas, and more gun voices

Anti gunners, one more time, listen up. You have been lied to. If 90% of Americans wanted new gun laws, there would be new gun laws, it's called "representitive government". If our elected reps don't vote the way the majority wants, they don't get re-elected, pretty simple. As for Morse, just this week the guy tried to re-criminalize marijuana, HE HAS TO GO! Spare me your knee-jerk defense of all that is Democrat. Morse is puposely and without shame, ignoring the voices of the voters, sign the recall, get your voice back.

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Posted by Stacy in Woodland Park on 05/08/2013 at 8:51 AM

Re: “Where tax dollars go, more gun-law debate, and praise for John Morse

Dear Mrs Hickey. Morse has to go because he has disdain and contempt for the voting public. Last night, he tried to make marijuana ILLEGAL again! So when the voters speak, he listens and does the opposite. You see, like all progressive, marxist democrats, he believes you are an idiot and that you don't know what's good for you. And since you support this monstrosity of a politician, I am thinking he is right.

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Posted by Stacy in Woodland Park on 05/07/2013 at 11:47 AM

Re: “Where tax dollars go, more gun-law debate, and praise for John Morse

"I am writing to debunk an argument used sometimes against the use of federal tax dollars to provide adequate female health care, such as contraceptive care and abortion, and social justice, such as the right to adopt by non-traditional couples." uhhhm, because it's against the law.

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Posted by Stacy in Woodland Park on 05/04/2013 at 12:48 PM

Re: “Where tax dollars go, more gun-law debate, and praise for John Morse

K: your fiscal ignorance is astonishing. If SS was privatized, the overwhelming majority of the money would go into mutual funds (and bonds) held for the long term. Individual stock ownership and frequent trading is a fools game.
I would recommend annuities with a guaranteed floor. Anything would be a much better return than money sitting stagnant in a government account earning nothing. Not to mention, the government can't keep their greedy little hands off of the money. There is your real envy and theft.

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Posted by siggie on 05/02/2013 at 4:39 PM

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