What, no mention of the efforts to also build the Pikes Peak Observatory up there?
A lot of people are simply voting AGAINST a candidate, not FOR one. That is the only explanation why anyone would vote for people with such severe faults.
No, hipdude, I'm still working, still upright, still contributing something other than vitriol. This forum has been fully one sided for quite some time. I'm glad I can be entertaining. As one of my friends said, don't let the usual suspects bother you. I don't, and he also said keep posting. I will.
If nothing else, hippyhelper, you're true to form. I know change is difficult, but give it a try and contribute some solutions instead of middle-school pap.
Curious, I qualify as an entrepreneur, a small business owner, and a taxpayer. I let my objections to regulations be heard, I vote my conscience (and for the good of the country) and try to help folks help themselves. No free lunch (tanstafl, anyone). As far as government not creating jobs, I agree in part because legislated contractual improvements to our infrastructure creates jobs by the thousands, and when gov't is handcuffed or misguided by anti-tax policy that doesn't happen. Public/private partnerships in every sector of our society have worked for years and should be at work for us now but for TABOR.
You blame city officials for complicity with developers that short change the working public. We're in the midst of an important election cycle. Colorado Springs has the opportunity to make changes, but I don't see any coming on the near horizon. Apparently everyone is with satisfied with the status quo or apathetic because of the influence of money in politics. If the TaxedEnoughAlready folks are happy with the way things are things won't change, and the Republican control of the city gov't will remain unchallenged. If things aren't already far enough to the right for you, then run Joel Miller again. If that doesn't work you can't go much further right, so let the pendulum swing back toward the center, where most of us live. To support real change then vote money out of politics and corrupt politicians out of office.
Vietnamized: Ya got me! Auto-correct got the better of me. Well, actually Mr.K-- spotted the error, and you just regurgitated his comment.
Jealous of what? Is it the heroic way you are changing the world through your sheeple like ramblings on an internet forum? Maybe it's the way you face gender confusion head on with such courage? Maybe its that full head of hair and sparkling teeth, and the way they make you look so pretty?
My resume? Are you trying to hire me? If you need a home caregiver to change your bed pan, contact the V.A., I have all the work I can handle.
hippyhelper, you're jealous! Do you have a resume? I'd like to see it. After your use of antidote instead of anecdote I'd like to see your high school diploma, too.
Look - I was attacked by posters who doubted my military service, my work qualifications, my patriotism, even my gender. I defend myself when necessary. As far as the comb over, I still have all my hair and teeth.
You can sit in judgement of me if you choose, but I haven't seen anything real or substantive from you yet. Keep on attacking me. It makes no difference at all.
Ballot will be in the mail on Monday, Joel. And by your use of words I can see I did get under your skin. I answered your gender questions long ago - you chose to ignore.
Curious, thanks for clearing up Mr. Miller's record. Things were going like that long before Mr. Miller was old enough to vote, yet the city just seems to keep on keeping on. I have seen it go from 25,000 residents to who knows how many now, seen the city limits expand, seen businesses come and go, with big box stores running the little guy out of the market.
I've been self-employed for most of my adult life. I'm comfortable with what I've accomplished, but I still fall short of my own expectations, and strive to do better. I have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on wages over the last 45 years, and even in the 70's was paying labor $10/hr when market was about $5, and minimum was less than that. That's helping others achieve the American dream - hardly self-aggrandizing and narcissistic. I suppose I could retire, make some popcorn and sit back and watch the show - but where's the fun in that? I guess I could just quit and play golf every day, too...my game would improve, but it would be totally self-serving. I choose to continue to try to make a difference, like Mr. Miller, but I do it differently.
Thanks for the edit, Mr. K...spelling and context are important!
Joel Miller did unexpectedly well in the mayoral race. He did especially well considering that City Leaders were vehemently opposed to him being elected mayor. And the Gazette, owned by billionaire Anschutz, also owner of multiple properties and business entities in COS, printed voluminous reams of copy expressing its opposition to him and his fiscally conservative ideas of govt. The reason for the venom and animosity is that Miller believes tax dollars should be used to pay for those legitimate govt functions such as public safety, roads, parks, wildfire and flood mitigation, storm water, utilities, and administrative departments to carry out these tasks and not for economic development and job creation. The only jobs govt can create are in the public sector, jobs paid for from taxes collected from employees and employers in the private sector. But govt can assist the private sector in job creation by reducing the burden of taxes, fees, licenses, and overkill regulations. Making the economic climate attractive for entrepreneurs and businesses will result in jobs for the un- and underemployed.
As evidence of fiscally irresponsible ideas, our City Leaders believe in helping developers build more housing for the affluent and more shopping centers filled with national chain restaurant and retail stores. Our City Leaders believe in giving developers our tax dollars to pay for infrastructure and other amenities to revamp "blighted" neighborhoods, with the result that risk is transferred to the citizens and profits to the developers. Our City Leaders believe that building a downtown stadium using tax dollars without the consent of the citizens will revitalize the area. To achieve this objective, our City Leaders intend to divert sales tax dollars from roads and other govt functions in order to construct a concrete blob next door to the Olympic Museum because a stadium is what a major landowner/developer wants so that all those properties he owns in the area will go up in value and so that he, now just a common ordinary millionaire, can realize his goal of becoming a billionaire.
The word you are reaching for, hippyhelper, is "anecdote," not "antidote."
Vietnamized: My position is that you are engaging in insidious innuendo without much in the way of facts to back it up. Thanks for helping shore that up for me.
Your arguments with their overly abundant use of "I" statements and personal antidotes in place of verifiable facts contain an assortment of logical fallacies that any high school student should be able to spot as indicative of a weak argument.
Your entire rhetorical style is a spot on impression of Donald Trump. Are you rocking a spray tan and comb-over as well?
You are endlessly entertaining though.
Once again. Mr/Mrs Vietnam (No Gender snark intended--just unsure of who you are): Absolutely got my butt kicked. I accepted no corporate donations and $14,000 will not overcome $500,000. Proud of my campaign and 3rd place finish with 16% of the votes and the issues that were part of the campaign because of me. Despite the hate messages from detractors, I never once considered any of those I would serve as either deplorable or irredeamable but repeatedly re-affirmed my commitment to serve all citizens.
It's obvious your disdain runs deep and your insults from behind your anonymity are intended to strike a nerve, so I won't indulge your hope for a bite. I simply say that the record will clearly demonstrate the enormous efforts I made to change the Status quo. The record will also clearly show that despite being the only councilmember with a full time job in the private sector with a young family to raise, I nevertheless worked 60 hours per week on council duties and informing my constituents of what was happening inside their city and maintained the best attendance record of any other councilmember. But facts will certainly not be an antidote to the accumulated bile that guides you. As to Hillary Clinton, her private sector job ended with her being precluded from practicing law and her record in the Senate where she served on the majority includes bills she sponsored involving naming post offices and highways and designating historic sites. Her votes supported the invasion of Iraq, the failed stimulus and the bank bailout.
I'll end this little chat here. Don't forget to mail your ballot.
Actually, hippy helper, I was trying to shore up your position. As for self-aggrandizing and narcissistic, I was clarifying who I am and what my experience level is. How about you?
Joel, is that gender snark all you've got? No wonder you got your butt kicked in the mayoral election. Loud and clear, the people's voice was heard! Your views and support of Trump indicate (at least to me) that you are not satisfied with the way things are, but your experience as an elected official produced what changes for the better. I'm unfamiliar with your record - please enlighten me. To take a page from Trump's playbook, how come you didn't get things changed while you were in office? Did the big, bad good ol' boys network shut you down? Or did your ideas get rejected by your constituents?
Vietnamized: It would have been simpler to just admit you were just piling on baseless b.s..
Your self-aggrandizing, narcissistic posts are always a source of endless entertainment though. Thanks for the chuckles. Keep the faith, you really are one of the "true believers " . Oh.... by they way, only dorks listened to disco in the 80's.....
I do not know the political leanings of Attila the Hun, but I have heard that Steve Bannon calls himself a "Leninist" and I do know that Lenin was a staunch communist.
Those of us voting for Trump understand why choosing HIM over HER is better for America. Those of us voting for Trump are outraged by HER ACTIONS - past and present. Those of us voting for Trump know what SHE will do as president, while Trump, for all his big-mouthed blundering, magnified by a HER-loving media, is a bit of an unknown.
BTW, commenting on the Indy forum is a privilege, one that imposes on us an obligation to be civil to our fellow bloggers. And those of us who blog under a "pseudo" name are doubly honor bound to avoid attacking the person who expresses an opinion different from ours. Just sayin', folks.
Mr. Vietnam, thank you for the vote of confidence. I hadn't considered running again, but your post is making me reconsider. Steve Bannon and Breitbart News are the only ones not in the tank with the corruption of big media. How much evidence do you need? Show me what is baseless. It's all based on pretty well-documented evidence. Is it baseless because your friends on MSNBC said it was?
FYI, I'm actually not a brownshirt, I just bought a Breitbart T-shirt! Furthermore, Attila the Hun's political leanings are far more reflective of the left. Good afternoon, sir, ma'am, whatever you are.
The Clinton's beat the Democratic establishment back in the 90's and no one saw it coming or could stop them. The GOP joined in and has done everything in their power to discredit the Clinton's for decades.
The Clinton's are made of greasy steel. Nothing sticks and nothing knocks them down. They are powerful and now rich too. I can understand the hate of them. If you are not also impressed, you're not really looking.
Trump is an adolescent. He was born one step from home, still managed to get thrown out, strike out next and be placed on third again before he had any success. He has zero impulse control and no ability to engage in a rational conversation. He hates everyone.
If you actually think Trump would be better than your drunk uncle or cousin, you are wrong. He would probably be worse.
Sometime in the recent past the definition of belief changed. It used to mean acceptance of statements that could not be proven. That has been softened by the cacophony of disagreement from 'believers'. Dad96, you can preach all you want to, but keep it out of my life, my military, my government. It's your business, not mine. Your religion has warts and blemishes like all others - you choose to ignore them. You are in a 'state of bliss' obviously, so nothing anyone can say will change that. I sincerely hope you live your life as you preach - but I get the feeling that you have limitations regarding people who are not like you. If there is a god - and I don't subscribe to that philosophy, then why would he want his creations to choose what religion they would be? Are we not all created equal under his eyes?
hippyhelper, all I made was an observation based on experience - and I said I would be surprised if he didn't test positive. My observations were of a runny nose, of someone trying to clear something from his soft palate area without success, his inability to be calm and still, his lack of control over his impulsive remarks and facial expressions and his dry mouth syndrome, again exhibited last night. I did at no time say that Donald Trump was using cocaine - what I said was that he had the appearance of using cocaine. And I wanted a drug test for both of them.
Spare me the kick back of my own words if you didn't understand them in the first place.
Trump has gotten where he's gotten by insidious innuendo without much in the way of facts to back them up.
Joel, I had a bit of respect for you until that rant. Baseless BS. If you're waiting for judgement day I feel sorry for you - apparently your "life's work" has been to crow abut the wonders of TABOR. Say howdy to Grover Norquist for me. This election is going to be a complete rout. You can vote for that phony if you want to, and you can continue to spout anti-Hillary garbage, but I see you as a subscriber to the new T.Rump TV channel, and marching right along with the rest of the Steve Bannon brownshirts dragging our democracy down. I guess it's to be expected in 'somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun' Colorado Springs. I would be more than happy to reveal myself to you, but that negates the purpose of this venue. I have no desire to run for office, and judging from your experience you probably won't be doing so again, either.
If you admire this man, if you support his specious claims about making America great again by returning to trickle down economics (didn't work the first time, won't work this time), tax breaks for the rich and driving our international bus into the ditch again after we just barely got some traction after the Bush/Cheney disaster, then by all means enthusiastically support him...and question our democratic method of choosing leaders and the time-honored, democratic tradition of accepting the results of the fairest election system in the world. If you support him you undermine our system and have no business in public office ever again.
so, as it appears, The White P€nis Party has become the party of the L!mp Dicks. How impotent. And yes, I DID have to go there.
If you are "glad" now, Mr. Miller, you must have been ecstatic when you ran for office, to have hundreds of anonymous citizens judging you!
Thanks Joel for your spot-on comments. As Thomas Sowell succinctly said, she's a "thoroughly corrupt liar." Don't screw up, America - this woman is dangerous. Our liberty as free citizens is at stake. Vote for the lesser of the 2 flawed candidates. Vote Trump.
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