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Comment Archives: stories: News: Local News

Re: “Some tax credits in City for Champions plan are notoriously hard to get

Even thought the program is a long shot, it looks extremely attractive from the point of view of ob creation and business development. The private investors are also in extremely attractive condition to my mind, provided that they really receive such a good interest rate.
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Posted by Jull on 02/17/2014 at 2:48 PM

Re: “King floats tax for C4C

Not yet being verified they start to count chickens before they are hatched, to speak of the permanent job places, it's ok, but to estimate spending which are going to occur in 30 the moment when the next bubble can boost any moment is not correct.
Jull from

Posted by Jull on 02/17/2014 at 11:15 AM

Re: “Local food stamp program update

What would be great is if we could cut the fraud, all those are able to work, and those who smoke dope out of the system, and then spread the same number of dollars around a smaller group of people thus giving them a more significant helpful amount of assistance.

It is those who get without deserving or warranting the help who are really hurting the poor, not the conservatives.

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Posted by TejonTech on 02/16/2014 at 4:42 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs pot delivery stretches the law

Very useful information. Thank you for sharing it.

Posted by Ekta Taneja on 02/16/2014 at 6:59 AM

Re: “Some tax credits in City for Champions plan are notoriously hard to get

If the federal govt wants COS to have a stadium, then getting that hard to get $10M will be a cinch. After all, the state wants COS to have a stadium and has approved $120M in STIF dollars receivable - maybe - over 30 years. Looking deep into my crystal ball, I see that in 30 years our "iconic" stadium will be a graffiti covered dowdy old dump in a sea of asphalt where stray dogs roam and crumpled pages of the Gazette swirl amidst the tarps and tents of the homeless. Time to tear down the Bach Stadium and apply to the EDC for another handout to build a new "visionary" and "iconic" something or other.

To get the facts, not spin, go to:…

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Posted by curious on 02/16/2014 at 12:59 AM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

I thought we already had an election and the people have already spoke on this issue!

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Posted by Jerry Scott Pebley on 02/14/2014 at 2:24 PM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

I know the NRMMS people have put together $5000.00 to run a campaign in our town to try and tell us how to vote!

Maybe, just maybe, Mr. Hass would like to use that $5000.00 to assist the city of Manitou Springs in recouping some of the monies it spent on flood recovery. Monies spent on not only our citizen, but our business owners as well.

That $5000.00 would get us an additional $15,000.00 in matching grant funds . . . how about it NRMMS . . . you want to help support our city or attempt to drive a wedge between us? YOUR CALL!!!


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Posted by Kevin Mac Donald II on 02/13/2014 at 7:15 PM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

Mr. Haas is also for paid parking in Manitou, which a majority of the business owners and citizens are against. I think he is out of touch with what the people of manitou want.

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Posted by Jim Ague on 02/13/2014 at 2:22 PM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

While I don't live in Manitou any longer I do work there and spend more time there awake than I do at home when all is said and done. I think that this petition/vote is a waste of money that could be used for flood mitigation and I am confident that RMJ sales could help with the many issues we face as a community recovering from disaster. I spent everyday for 2 wks after the flood either helping my own place of business recover or in other businesses basements and I never once saw Tim Hass or any of the people from the anti group where as I made many new friends and stood by many familiar faces who are pro RMJ in town. So who is it that really cares about this town and actually wants the best for it? Cause I can tell you it isn't Tim.

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Posted by Lorena Townsend on 02/13/2014 at 12:27 PM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

I got one of those postcards and laughed at what it said. Hey how about doing some research before sending out these false statements and not just putting what you here in the media on them. Who would shop at one of his trinket and trash stores anyways.

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Posted by DMB423 on 02/13/2014 at 8:20 AM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

frank. if you'd like some assistance, we can organize our members protest the 'age of ignorance' and put pressure on those that want to strip our nation of the essential rights of the majority vote. the people voted. council voted. if a traitor stands in the way, let's tar and feather his business until freedom rings from sea to shining sea.

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Posted by on 02/13/2014 at 8:17 AM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

As a child, I was told that American was special. Why? Because we are governed by the people and for the people. for over 76 years, cannabis prohibition has enslaved our nation, filled our prison, ruined lives and turned a potentially life saving plant into 'loco weed.' we the people have spoken. prohibition is over. and big business is coming. let's work together, end prohibition, and put an end once and for all to the 'reefer madness' of a bygone era of ignorance. join us -…

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Posted by on 02/13/2014 at 8:07 AM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

Thank you Sarge. If they dont live there they have no dog in the fight.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 02/13/2014 at 7:11 AM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

Hello to Bryce Crawford, all the Indy readers, and the citizens of Manitou Springs. Let me start my response by saying that I am sick and tired of OUTSIDERS trying to tell the citizens of our beautiful little town how we should think, act or VOTE!

Yes, I did say OUTSIDERS. What a lot of people don't know is that Mr. Tim Hass, and many of his fellow Petitioner’s on the No Retail Marijuana in Manitou Springs team, are not even citizens of Manitou Springs. Mr. Hass lives high up in the secluded neighborhood of Kissing Camels, in COLORADO SPRINGS, in a beautiful and expensive home. We do appreciate his willingness to business in our town, and we can clearly see how well his businesses have been doing taking in tourist dollars from the tourist that come to OUR town and not Colorado Springs.

However, there is no getting over the fact that Mr. Hass is not a voting member of our community. Therefore, his opinion is irrelevant - plain and simple! Neither Mr. Hass, nor the city government of Colorado Springs, ever asked the citizens of Manitou Springs what their opinion was concerning whether recreational marijuana sales should take place in Colorado Springs. I guess it wasn't any of our business. Well guess what? What we vote on in our community is none of their business either.

Manitou Springs owns land directly across from the Garden of the Gods Trading Post (one of the businesses owned by Mr. Hass). Maybe we should open our own trading post next door? Or how about a combination gift shop/pot shop? Then we can show him and Colorado Springs that tourist dollars and recreational marijuana dollars can both do extremely well, side-by-side, in our neck of the woods - because we don't really care how well they go together in anywhere else!!

I can also add that I talk to every citizen in our town, every chance I get, and I have come to realize that we have some very intelligent, caring, artful, and independent citizens living in our town. And everyone of them LOVES THIS TOWN!

I can assure Mr. Hass, the NRMMS group, the citizens of Colorado Springs; El Paso County, and Teller County that those same intelligent, caring, artful, and independent citizens will quickly tell their city council to rescind every ordinance we passed if they thought, even for one second, that recreational marijuana would harm our town, our citizens, and/or our businesses!!

Peace Out!


Kevin "SARGE" Mac Donald II
City Councilman - Ward 1
606 Manitou Avenue
Manitou Springs, CO 80829

PS: - Our citizens have spoken. We live in a society were the majority vote becomes the law of the land. And the majority of our citizens have made it clear that they want recreational marijuana.

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Posted by Kevin Mac Donald II on 02/12/2014 at 9:38 PM

Re: “Some in Manitou Springs want a marijuana do-over

Here are his other businesses in case you want to boycott. I will be doing so. How many times do we have to vote overwhelmingly yes before you conservatives who want to shove your lifestyles down our throats give it up?

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Posted by franksinatra on 02/12/2014 at 4:59 PM

Re: “Mayor unveils homeless plan

Stacy says: "Go buy a mobile home for each of them out east, it'd be cheaper."
I've long wondered why non-profits, with the cooperation of city/county, don't do just this. The cost of a pre-1976 mobile in good condition is less than $10K. These older mobiles, which can't be moved by their owner, could be purchased by a non-profit and moved to a county mobile park site where caseworker etc services are provided for them. This idea is far less costly than providing scarce "affordable" apartments and brick-and-mortar homes for the temporary and permanent homeless population.

The drawback to providing support and ever expanding services is that the inevitable result will be an ever expanding number of permanent homeless demanding ever expanding services to which they believe themselves entitled. Where does one draw the line on compassion for those less fortunate than ourselves who, it is believed by many, "there but for the grace of God go I." Where does one draw the line on how much of a Helping Hand Up those of us who have apparently found favor in God's eyes are required to give to those whom God has apparently chosen not to favor.

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Posted by curious on 02/09/2014 at 10:19 AM

Re: “Collecting delinquent child support a deadbeat effort in El Paso County

It isn't just the men.. I have a dead beat ex wife. In the past 5 years, she has given me $50 dollars. Court ordered her to pay $350 a month. She stopped working.. sleeps around.. drinks heavily.. bounces in & out of rehab. I think she even uses my daughters SSN's to collect food stamps... then sells them for drugs & alcohol. She told me she gets $450 a month in food stamps. I don't think the state of Colorado would give someone that much when they do not have kids. I don't keep them from her. She does visit them at my place sometimes. I will not let them stay the night with her anywhere. I don't keep any alcohol at my place & I search her bag when she comes over so I know my girls are safe. Unlike some of you, I do not put the kids in the middle of seeing or not seeing their parent because of money owed. It isn't the child's fault, so why punish everyone?

Posted by Mr. Wonderful on 02/07/2014 at 12:34 PM

Re: “A Democrat thinks he can win a county seat. No, really.

Mr. K, thank you for that astute observation.

I like this guy even more now.

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Posted by el producto on 02/07/2014 at 10:38 AM

Re: “Mayor unveils homeless plan

"Gosh," the "Mayor" should have been involved helping the homeless situation well before this. He has never been in favor of so much as seeing any one homeless, in front of him. This is an attempt to "improve" his already tainted image. And while we are on the subject, his "City of Champions" is a huge waste of taxpayer money that could be utilized for other out reach programs. Not to many folks go to our current baseball stadium as it is...

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Posted by Audrey Hatfield on 02/07/2014 at 6:51 AM

Re: “Mayor unveils homeless plan

If it costs $57K per year for one chronically homeless person, I wonder who that money is going to? Obviously not the homeless person. Go buy a mobile home for each of them out east, it'd be cheaper.

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Posted by Stacy Halde on 02/07/2014 at 6:07 AM

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