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Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

So, the book was out in plain sight; apparently there for his frequent use. So what? Religious FREEDOM is supposed to mean just that, right? I mean, is he holding his colleagues and/or subordinates at gunpoint, forcing them to read the thing or listen to him read it? The entire situation is a ridiculous waste of time. If his colleagues and/or subordinates don't like it, let them display their own religious texts. FREEDOM of religion... RIGHT??? Or wrong? Do we have it, or don't we? If we DO, in fact, have freedom of religion, then leave him ALONE. It's HIS Bible, on HIS workstation.

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Posted by Antigone A. Freimann on 08/19/2016 at 10:51 AM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

Conservative Christians are just too RELIGIOUS!!! When I was in a Pentecostal ministry as a missionary in the '80s, we were told that when we were at work we were to honor our employer and do the best work we could as our witness of Christ in our lives. Since when do Christians feel it is there right to bring their religion to work??? I just don't get it when it is very clear in Ephesians not to do this because you are being paid to work not witness..

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Posted by guruD on 08/19/2016 at 10:12 AM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

At the same time this umm, Christian is complaining about a bible being placed on a majors desk. The current occupant of the W.H. is advising supervisors of D.H.L.S. or some other meaningless department, to give some extra leeway to Muslims as they celebrate their holiday of rahmadon. Due to the fact that they may be tired from fasting and praying for 5 hours. So they will want to take a nap. So, is that not favoring a particular religion? I'm confused on how that's okay but Do Not Display your bible at your personal desk. Such politically correct BS!!!

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Posted by trublupat on 08/19/2016 at 10:10 AM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

To Tom McMinn ... Disagree. Removing the bible display means the Major's subordinates don't have to worry they won't get good assignments or promotions because they don't follow the Major's particular religious practices. It is a logical fallacy to say not establishing a religion is tantamount to establishing atheism.

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Posted by Milt_johnson on 08/19/2016 at 9:48 AM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

Separation of Church and State means that the State will stay out of the business of Religion, not the other way around. The term came from Thomas Jefferson, and is not in any of the official documents of the founding of our country. The intent of the writers of the bill of rights was to assure the State never adopted an approved religion, not to limit those involved with the state from practicing their own religion. To remove this bible is tantamount to making the State Religion Atheism...

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Posted by Tom McMinn on 08/19/2016 at 9:26 AM

Re: “Explosives, junk contribute to Vista Grande neighborhood tensions

Do you not understand that his mother is caring for him? By providing housing and, I would imagine, taking care of most of his bills. I love how you claim he's a threat to the public when the only truly dangerous activity at the home was never and never will be tied to his own actions, since the suspect readily took credit for the explosives.

"An addict with multiple warrants", yeah, all for what? In sum, just because he lives a lifestyle that those around him don't approve of since it isn't exactly like theirs. All he's really done is choose to put a substance in his body that our government has made illegal while allowing for the wide scale consumption of other substances with nearly identical effects and chemical structure. How do you not see the hypocrisy there?

I'll tell you why. Because you think of him as an addict instead of a human being. Maybe if society actually acknowledged the humanity of people struggling with substance dependency and didn't constantly drive home the " fact" that we are dirty, diseased, evil criminals that care for no one but themselves, maybe we would be more able to move past that dilemma in our lives and see our own value enough to get healthy.

But nah, just keep on treating us as subhuman "eyesores" and getting pissed when we can't see our own human value. Keep trying to prevent the establishment of resources like methadone clinics and needle exchanges while supporting laws that push those of us unfortunate enough to come into unfavorable contact with law enforcement back into the cycle of poverty and addiction where it's pretty much impossible to get out of the system.

Because it's working out so well as we speak.


Right here folks, El Paso county's small minded ignorance at its finest.

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Posted by Cait Stella on 08/18/2016 at 9:54 PM

Re: “When dad is a pedophile

WHat THE FUCK?? No no no no way you pedopiles ..My mother was sexually abused as a child and she is VERY VERY damaged from it ...these victims have to live with the fucking consequences for the Rest of their lives !!!! Get a therapist or you will burn in Hell!

Posted by seriously?! on 08/18/2016 at 4:44 PM

Re: “If voters approve, could ColoradoCare really pay for itself? It's complicated

We are currently being screwed and we all know it. ColoradoCare potentially gives us, as individuals supporting this economy, the opportunity to save a lot of money on health care. I don't know about you but for $1500+ a month for a family of 4, making just enough to not qualify for government assistance, that is way too much money. On top of that, a 10k max out of pocket on individual and a 15k on family. INSANE SINCE WE PAY OVER 18K A YEAR ON PREMIUMS - not to mention co-pays and prescriptions. We don't even come close to using 18K in medical services. Privatization of health care is NOT universal/socialized healthcare. Its called stickin' it to the people. Stick it to us at the liquor store or the dispensary if necessary. Also, I just want to point out that those who do make so little income that they qualify for government subsidies actually end end up paying for it out of their tax returns. What is the saying... if it isn't broke, don't fix it? Well this system is BROKEN - so why not try something new. At least this is a step in the right direction. Love and light, friends, love and light.

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Posted by Elise on 08/18/2016 at 3:56 PM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

Eeek ! Watch Out ! That bible's gonna bite you ! It's Freedom of Religion not freedom from Religion.

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Posted by Earl Lowery on 08/18/2016 at 9:51 AM

Re: “If voters approve, could ColoradoCare really pay for itself? It's complicated

People: gov't imposed (i.e. mandatory, not voluntary) health-care has been a disaster from inception to it's current state of flawed implementation.

Can you show in the Constitution where the Feds can force the citizenry to purchase a private good, service or commodity under penalty-of-law? Is such regulation really their function, and why would you invest them with that kind of power?

They can't keep the USPS solvent, but you'd entrust them with a sixth of the economy?

This house of collapsing cards was built on lies--guess who uttered this whopper? ""If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan."--and required support of the "stupid" (the administation's term, not mine) to pass and enact it.

Time to dismantle it all and get back to individuals *gasp* making their own decisions and choices.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4391…

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Posted by LibertyForAll on 08/18/2016 at 8:03 AM

Re: “If voters approve, could ColoradoCare really pay for itself? It's complicated

So the kind of screwing we are currently getting is one that we DO want? How ridiculous is that?

You should get your facts straight. Since retirement income is exempted from the tax up to a point over the amount that most seniors will see, most will likely pay NO tax. Small businesses that are currently providing health insurance for their employees will see savings, not increased costs. Others will see healthier employees and likely less turnover.

We only have two choices in November. We can vote YES on 69, or we can continue the current system which is a total disaster.

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Posted by Guinn E Unger Jr on 08/17/2016 at 8:24 PM

Re: “If voters approve, could ColoradoCare really pay for itself? It's complicated

Our current healthcare insurance system is broken and if you've had a serious illness or injury in your family you know how brutally it treats you even if you have insurance.

It's time to stop throwing chili suppers and bake sales to help out our relatives, friends and neighbors who get clobbered by medical bills. We need a serious healthcare system that covers every Coloradan all the time. ColoradoCare would eliminate the waste, profits and politics from healthcare. The savings would be enough to cover every Coloradan with top quality healthcare, and no deductibles.

Don't go on just crossing your fingers, hoping your health will be good. You owe it to yourself and your fellow Coloradans to learn more about ColoradoCare, volunteer, donate and vote for it in the November election. www.ColoradoCare.org

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Posted by Dave Beckwith on 08/17/2016 at 7:35 PM

Re: “You judge the judge

Tannin - even the exceptionally good ones? Had a bad court experience have you? Done some time have you? Got a brain have you?

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Posted by judge johnny on 08/17/2016 at 5:57 PM

Re: “You judge the judge

No evaluation needed. Thow them all out!

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Posted by Tannim on 08/17/2016 at 3:16 PM

Re: “Minimum wage on Colorado ballot

>Of course, not everyone is happy about the prospect. Americans for Prosperity Colorado, backed by the billionaire Koch brothers, released a statement claiming that raising the minimum wage won't reduce poverty and will reduce jobs in the state by tens of thousands.

Of course, the Indy, in its liberal biased cluelessness, has to add a shot at them in the article as a matter of course.

Nevermind that a minimum wage hike is also a tax hike and is a disaster for the economy and small businesses.

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Posted by Tannim on 08/17/2016 at 3:15 PM

Re: “If voters approve, could ColoradoCare really pay for itself? It's complicated

In simple terms, we taxpayers can't afford this mess.

A tripling of income taxes on fixed-income seniors and small business owner/operators?

A doubling of the state government, placed in the hands of one board?

A single board deciding what get covered for care and when and what doesn't?

NO THANKS!

VOTE NO on 69. It's a kind of screwing we don't want.

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Posted by Tannim on 08/17/2016 at 3:02 PM

Re: “Explosives, junk contribute to Vista Grande neighborhood tensions

Who owns the house? If his mother owns the house, she is entirely responsible for the upkeep and it doesn't matter who is the tenant. The house next to our home is a Victorian tuned into 5 apartments. If we have an issue with any of the tenants or upkeep of the property, we call the landlord. It's then the responsibility of the landlord to ensure the property is maintained or the tenant in question is handled appropriately. If the landlord is not responsive in a timely manner, we call regularly for a couple of days and if the property is unsightly or unsafe - usually goes hand in hand - we then contact code enforcement.

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Posted by Jackie Reynolds on 08/17/2016 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

Milt_Johnson,

You point was lost in the fact you are pointing at the NSSI which is an entirely different USAF unit. The RNSSI is not affilited with NSSI nor do they teach astrodynamics. In all fairness, if you are going to poke, please make sure you are poking the correct organization.

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Posted by Gael Fox on 08/17/2016 at 12:36 PM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

A Major has a leadership position and he has a captive audience. What objective is he trying to achieve by making such a point with his studied and marked up bible? Does he want everyone to know how humble he is or perhaps he wants everyone to know how much he loves Christ? No matter what his objective, the NSSI is for learning astrodynamics. It is not a place of worship and this display is inappropriate. How did he arrive at this decision? Maybe he should resign his commission and go start a church somewhere, because it would be better to have a copy of “Fundamentals of Astrodynamics and Applications”, or “Understanding Space” on display as those books are not some bronze age fantasy. He has brought disgrace and discredit to his organization.

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Posted by Milt_johnson on 08/17/2016 at 9:14 AM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

The mission of the military is to defend our diverse nation - not promote religion. A military person's sworn oath is to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States...and bear true faith and allegiance to the same". The Constitution provides for separation of church & state & prohibits public imposition of private religious beliefs on other Americans (USA Constitution 101). Military service is public, religious beliefs are private. Military persons who do not comprehend this and disrespect, dishonor & disregard our Constitution and their sworn oath need to be disciplined & required to take a refresher course on the Constitution & their oath. A patriotic American disabled veteran (Vietnam) & retired Army airborne officer.

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Posted by John Compere on 08/17/2016 at 8:36 AM

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