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Comment Archives: stories: Columns: Between The Lines

Re: “Train shows all of Colorado

Thank you for the travelog, Steve, er, Ralph.

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Posted by longtooth on 12/12/2012 at 7:59 AM

Re: “Can Anschutz take our daily back to the future?

With the Internet, everyone who still takes a daily delivered in print paper will be dead from old age before the paper can hire a staff from the dwindling numbers who do print's as done as church.

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Posted by TejonTech on 12/05/2012 at 6:33 PM

Re: “Can Anschutz take our daily back to the future?

Stephen, yes the GT had 85 percent household penetration. I think for a brief time that even crawled into the low 90s, maybe for a few months. Staffers received monthly reminders of that -- way back in the 60s and 70s, but it is true. Also, during that time, the GT was the only daily paper with subscriptions from east of Colorado Springs to Limon, basically along US 24 and Colorado 94. That includes the Free Press/Sun, the Rocky Mountain News and the Denver Post. I doubt the Pueblo papers sold in that area, either.

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Posted by Morris Fraser on 12/05/2012 at 1:34 PM

Re: “Can Anschutz take our daily back to the future?

I can only take Scott's word that the Gazette ever had 85% penetration. It sounds unbelievable but any such number appears only distantly in the rear-view mirror. The paper now appears more like an pamphlet while its price tag has kept pace with inflation nicely. The libertarian editorial philosophy tune played so stridently on its one-note guitar for so many years, I believe, did what it intended to do: it shaped the older newspaper-reading segment of the community into thinking taxes should never be raised, and nothing apart from the sparest actual government facilities should ever be owned by the city. I believe it hardened the already calcified opposition to offering and paying for any service apart from police and fire. Our city turned off street lights to save money from the utility company it owns. That looks pretty pathetic to the rest of the country. If we are in for a doubling down of that viewpoint, the paper will appeal to fewer and fewer, and continue to contribute to the erosion of the community instead of its growth. A city (no longer just a town) benefits from a rational, dependable, comprehensive common forum and vocabulary which a newspaper can provide.

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Posted by Stephen Bowlby on 12/05/2012 at 11:24 AM

Re: “Can Anschutz take our daily back to the future?

1. I appreciate that you, a competitor, would say nice things about the sale and the paper's history. Some of your readers probably would not be as kind. And, of course, you were part of the excellence way back then.
2. Indeed there were, and are, outstanding reporters and writers still working who were at the G when we were. "Outstanding" is the right word. I don't know any who are still there that I would not want to be associated with. Flat-out truth: anyone who disagrees doesn't know those people.
3. One of those veterans told me the newsroom feels more stable. After some of the events we experienced in the 80s and 90s, I feel so much better about the company. And a former photographer commented that he felt the need to pack up his cameras and go back, then said, "Oh, wait, I'm retired." I kinda-sorta feel the same way.
4. Enjoy the new competition, emphasis on "enjoy".

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Posted by Morris Fraser on 12/05/2012 at 9:30 AM

Re: “B-word: not the solution

The B-word got enough attention to deserve an article. Why wouldn't it be used. Money is the only thing downtown businesses understand. Don't like the Boycott? Post a sign outside your business stating your objection to the big brother overreach of the city council and mayor

Posted by Daniel Freysinger on 12/01/2012 at 5:12 AM

Re: “Let's do it: America's Olympic City

How about cheap utilities, a skysox team in a field where they're happy (check!) and the hall of fame? I do like that idea!
I hope the local government will be cleaned up and out so as not to tarnish the Olympic name...

Posted by Drive Iam on 11/28/2012 at 11:16 PM

Re: “Let's do it: America's Olympic City

Great idea! The Springs has a unique and powerful marketing opportunity with being the home of the USOC. No other city in the world has it. And, everyone in the world knows US Olympics. In fact, the US Olympic team is the best sports team in the world! For Colorado Springs, its better than being home to the Broncos, the Yankees or the Lakers.

Though the idea of a Sky Sox stadium downtown is appealing, it pales in comparison to a US Olympic Hall of Fame downtown. We're talking minor league baseball versus global sport. Let's focus on what makes the biggest impact, first. Make it happen and CS will be equated with the best in sport world wide. Can't beat that!

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Posted by Antelope on 11/28/2012 at 7:44 AM

Re: “Sequestration: What now?

Doug Lamborn wil take care of this for us...we won't feel the effects at all. Thank goodness we have an effective leader like Doug Lamborn.

I hear Doug has a plan to file impeachment articles against Obama for Benghazi too.

Thank goodness we have such a strong man representing us in Washington. Not!

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Posted by TejonTech on 11/07/2012 at 10:13 AM

Re: “Sequestration: What now?

Read an article that The COS EDC invited three leading U.S. senators regarding defense spending and possible spending reductions.

UCCS Chancellor Pam Shockley-Zalabak welcomed Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-N.H., and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., members of the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee, and other elected officials including Rep. Doug Lamborn, R-Colorado Springs, and staff from the offices of Sen. Michael Bennet and Sen. Mark Udall. They primarily spoke about “sequestration,” which refers to the $1 trillion in cuts the Pentagon is required to make over the next decade under the Budget Control Act of 2011. The bill was part of a bipartisan attempt to balance the federal budget.

With such an important issue facing Colorado Springs, that could have devastating consequences on our City, where was your fine Mayor Steve Bach?

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Posted by Comshaw on 11/07/2012 at 9:32 AM

Re: “Bach: 6,000 jobs, redefined

We will hopefully know on Wednesday morning...if Obama gets another four years gas prices will continue to rise, jobs will be depressed by the overwhelming burden of universal health care, taxes will go up and spending will go down...there will be a general malaise that will see many downtown operations boarded up.

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Posted by TejonTech on 11/05/2012 at 10:02 AM

Re: “Bach: 6,000 jobs, redefined

The Real Numbers: why do we need to check other sources to get them?…

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Posted by Donna Knight on 10/31/2012 at 8:42 AM

Re: “Bach: 6,000 jobs, redefined

Sunlight beating down on dry leaf will not cause it to erupt in flames.

Focusing sunlight and intensifying the heat through a magnifying glass will.

Focus and direction.

Focus and direction in job creation can create 6000 annual jobs.

Who, in the region is that magnifying glass?

An old chamber with a reduced budget and new logo putting out fluff?

The city with no real econ development team? The county who has a record of opposition to incentives?

The need for an intensely well-qualified “leadership team” is the greatest current regional need. One team to focus the region's 'sunlight' into focused energy.

Without it, will we see the northern tier Colorado cities of Boulder, Longmont and Fort Collins take over as the lead ‘growth communities’ in Colorado leaving the Pikes Peak Region in the dust?

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Posted by Richard D.Wehner on 10/31/2012 at 7:03 AM

Re: “Post lays an endorsement egg

This is of no surprise to anyone that has been here more that a couple of years. I am a native to Colorado Springs and have seen several examples of this over my time here. This not only applies to endorsements but also includes distribution of federal funding for roads, law enforcement, fire prevention, the arts, job growth.... etc. The list goes on. I would be willing to guess that 50 cents of every dollar that comes to Colorado stays in Denver and the rest gets distributed around the state purely as a token gesture.

Posted by romer1 on 10/22/2012 at 9:55 AM

Re: “Post lays an endorsement egg

Lameborn is a horrible representative. I think this district would be better off without a rep at all, versus the useless excuse that we've been punished with the past 6 years. I cancelled my Post subscription last year and I certainly don't regret it.

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Posted by gregR on 10/17/2012 at 4:28 PM

Re: “Differing previews of 2013

I have attended many "economic forums". I left each and every one of them wearing a "quizzical expression". The reason may be the nature of the beast. Economists are notoriously conservative in their outlook and therefor come off as nearly universally pessimistic.
It seems to me, given the state of the economy of the US and the world as well as the pending presidential election, folks have every right to be pessimistic.

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Posted by smartestman on 10/03/2012 at 7:11 AM

Re: “Creating a pathway to the Springs' future

Not real sure where you got the figure for 2.4M Portland residents you used to excuse our own city's failings, Ralph. U.S. Census puts them at...just under 600k. not trying to nit-pick your work, but what does the adjusted figure say about us?…

Posted by sbass777 on 09/26/2012 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Maketa's future on the line

This tax measure for the Sheriff Dept - thrown out at the last minute, with the knowledge we have of past tax initiatives that were well promoted and failed, causes me great concern with the level of judgment and planning capability at the county!

In 2008, about 6 months out from the election - began some minor 'promotion' for a tax measure 1A. Three months out from the election a massive campaign was mounted supported by the Chamber, The EDC, The City, HBA - Board of Realtors - quite an extensive list of supporters community wide all led by an organization called 'Citizens For Effective Government. It was a well run campaign.

The measure failed. 64% of the voters said NO. This measure was repleat with all manner of "The Sky is Falling" scenarious with the Sheriff using the same tactics he is using in the companion article in today's Independent. The head of the Health Dept stated that the Dept would be "DeFacto Extinct" by the end of the decade.

To have the Sheriff, and Mrs. Lathen use this same method - and doing it at the last minute - - - with all the evidence pointing to: "This Don't Work" just is stunning in the lack of preparation - - and particularly the lack of judgment!

At some point, it does seem there will have to be a 'management and coordination' team developed to make up for the lack of ability of elected officials and to ensure that what the county is doing does not interfere with what the city is doing.

I can only assume this measure will go down to defeat by an overwhelming margin with the added result it will not only irritate voters, but also bring forth serious doubts in the mind of the public about the leadership being displayed ? People who are uncertain about the quality of leaders they have elected - and with the high degree of distrust the county stimulates - - at a time when voters are awakening with renewed hostility over the term limit issue on the same ballot - - these are not people inclined to pass a tax hike!

Sallie and Amy are a little frightening but I expected a higher level of thought from Mr. Maketa. Perhaps a regional planning team to coordinate regional strategy will be the way to ensure as many needs can be met as possible with dwindling revenues.

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Posted by Donna Knight on 09/05/2012 at 7:32 AM

Re: “Maketa's future on the line

Mr. Routon brings up an interesting point with speculation that Terry Maketa (may) be positioning himself for a run at the Mayor Chair - at the same time Sallie Clark is also subject to the same rumor: never having recovered from the shock of having lost in her first bid to Lionel Rivera!

With each of these two individuals potentially in the mix, Terry quite competent, Sallie marginally so, it brings up what appears to be a definite problem for the entire region: The total lack of unity, cohesion and true cooperation between the city, the county and the related civic organizations that must work well in a coordinated fashion to meet the growing needs of an increasingly unemployed population.

This tax has been a direct slap in the face by Mrs Lathen and cohorts at not only the city, the concept of 'unity' but the Mayor and does not address the best needs of the community. To my knowledge, after minor research, and confirmed by the county, this tax measure has not been discussed by the county with any single other entity in the area! While we are still looking, I have seen no evidence this measure has any support from any individual, entity or organization need to have a chance of winning. Yet, it has the potential of being a threat to the extension of the PPRTA which has been of great benefit to the entire area.

Hopefully, as voters, we will see the need to approve this measure - we need it. An associated 'side need' is that of removing those career amateur politicians at the county level who have proven to be a roadblock to progress. Clark-Lathen-Hisey. Clark now and Hisey and Lathen in the future.

The matter of Amy Lathen 'going rogue' with the AmyTerryTax - coming off the county's rather childish performance in front of city council over the distribution of funds for the future PPRTA program is an example of the lack of true collaboration that the region is well-known for. Angelou Economics, the firm which produced the Project 6035 report now gathering dust somewhere stated one deterrent to local economic development:


Did we just see this in action?

Spot on Angie ! You nailed in - the county shows it - and Amy amplifies it. Upon departing the Springs after four months of econ research, Mr. Angelou stated: "You will not achieve what we have set forth as you are too fractured and divided as a community."

Allowing those who have created such friction and who display such magnified hubris will benefit each of us how? With Sallie working behind the scenes to set up a run for Mayor, Maketa being thrown in the mix - Bensberg looking to take Lisa's seat on council, Lisa grooming herself for a place on the board - and Wayne Williams maneuvering to take control of city elections as well as county - perhaps we need to heed Mrs. Czelatdko's advice:

Pay some f****** attention !

Can we move forward and address critical problems by keeping in office those who have created the very problems - I think not and think we need to cut off the head of the beast by removing Sallie Clark - to leave Amy without an effective ally, and break the Clark-Lathen-Hisey voting block that we have seen - really creates the friction in the region while crafting poor policy. Log on and join up to assist - it gets better only if we make it better.

Richard D. Wehner

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Posted by Richard D.Wehner on 09/05/2012 at 5:23 AM

Re: “Dealing with this milestone

The more things change....etc. etc. Happy birthday; remember, you're here to celebrate it.

Posted by Morris on 08/30/2012 at 5:48 AM

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