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Comment Archives: stories: Columns: Between The Lines

Re: “Dealing with this milestone

Happy Birthday Ralph!! Hope it is a wonderful one. Seems like yesterday we were celebrating your big 50!

Posted by Shirley Merrell Long on 08/29/2012 at 3:33 PM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

Mr. Routon, what exactly are you doing to help the growth of jobs? The Mayor is putting out a challenge that is not impossible, but is a stretch goal. That is precisely what great leaders do in the private sector, challenge their teams to higher level of performance. People who say it can't be done should get out of the way of those doing it.

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Posted by Laura Carno on 08/20/2012 at 6:27 AM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

Up here at Tejon Street Tech, otherwise known as Colorado College, we call that bachwards..

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Posted by TejonTech on 08/17/2012 at 6:26 AM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

I've given up. We continue to go Bachwards, the city that started a trend up in the 70's is now the city and county of no. Courting that batch of conservative non profits (tax sinkholes) has not helped our reputation, not has closing the city pools (thanks for picking them up, Y) or the dying street trees under watered parks, and a host of other deferred maintenance issues. If we want youthful creative classes we need to court their desires and needs.

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Posted by marge on 08/16/2012 at 8:04 PM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable”

Had to read this six times using a sixth sense to realize the gravity of negative impact these kinds of statements have in building any credibility with the public toward considering the kinds of public investment required to draw major firms to the area.

Realistic Expectation might be 6000 new civilian jobs over 6 years. The real growth potential is the encouragement and support for local new business start-ups with a long-term view of stable companies rooted in the local community.

The real business community outside of Colorado Springs - the ones seeking expansion sights, I would rather imagine - still consider this a region of 'knuckle-draggers' when it comes to local leadership, cooperation and regional cohesiveness. This was best witnessed when the county commissioners, with well-developed scabs on each of ten knuckles - - walked into city council chambers whining and making statements as: "We were blind-sided" or - - "The city is making a turf war out of this", and "We will grudingly agree to approve this". Absolutely no evidence of a sense of community spirit or willingness to work together for the common good. It is a 'turf-war' and the county wants the turf!

This is one region. One set of needs. Yet two governing bodies (three when you consider the Chamber-EDC herd) who appear not to realize they all live in the same area facing the same needs - - and that the Antlers does have smaller rooms with tables and chairs where the competing entities could meet to discuss a 'regional' strategy to meet the shared needs. After the coming Chapter 9 - perhaps the Antlers will offer the rooms at reduced rates to those who will have to come together in unity to pick up the pieces.

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Posted by Rick Wehner on 08/15/2012 at 6:38 AM

Re: “Maher recharges the batteries

Great review - wish I could have been there.

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Posted by gregR on 08/01/2012 at 8:46 AM

Re: “Maher recharges the batteries

Routon writes: "And this wasn't the liberal extremists, either."
Talk about opinion. Here is another opinion. Yes it was. Who else would be stupid enough to pay to see Bill Maher?

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Posted by smartestman on 08/01/2012 at 6:48 AM

Re: “Fire followup: open to all

What do you expect from a city that can't even sync its traffic lights.

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Posted by TejonTech on 07/29/2012 at 1:22 PM

Re: “Fire followup: open to all

Let me ask you this mtnlover, since you seem to have all the answers. Question #1: Do you know what is, far and away, the most expensive component of a new home? The production lots were probably around 70K. Custom lots could have been up to $200K. Would you have been able to afford the home if they cost another $50,000?
Question #2: Do you think builders would have built those homes if people like you were not demanding to live there?
Question #3: Why is it that some people cannot accept personal responsibility and are always looking for someone or something else to blame?

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Posted by smartestman on 07/29/2012 at 10:59 AM

Re: “Fire followup: open to all

Let me first say that I live in Mtn Shadows and know the subdivisions and the terrain intimately. I completely agree that the city could, and should, of handled the evacuations better and that it should of happened much sooner than it did. As for the argument that the city should have done more and brought in more help sooner in fighting the fire and that would of saved hundreds of houses - not so much. Had the city brought in more help sooner, built more fire breaks, etc a few dozen more homes might have been saved but that would of been it. There were 200 ft flames that Tuesday and fire lines would of been easily jumped. The key problem was the lack of common sense in the early 90s when developers went to the city with their plans for subdivisions in the area. Houses in certain subdivisions were way too close to each other and that led to firefighters not being able to stop the spread of the fire because they had maybe 10 ft between houses and 100 ft flames. A little investigation will show that some Mtn Shadows subdivisions were destroyed almost 100%. That is the fault of the Pike Peak Building Department and City Council in the early 1990s, not the current city government.

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Posted by mtnlover on 07/29/2012 at 9:25 AM

Re: “Pivotal period for Bach

Colorado Springs City Council, acting as the Utilities Board on 7/18/2012, voted 7-2 to go ahead with the NeuStream scrubber as planned at the Drake Power Plant. Council member Tim Leigh said he was convinced of the efficacy of NeuStream and voted with the majority to install the NeuStream scrubber. See the full story at…

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Posted by Rob Fredell on 07/18/2012 at 9:06 PM

Re: “Ode to Lisa Lyden

Lisa, though it has not been mentioned, I can't help but wonder about your home. I know you were neighbors to friends of mine who lost their home in the Waldo Canyon fire. I sure hope not, but I can see how the fire (losing or not losing your home) would have affected your life tremendously, hence, your decision to leave as our FAVORITE anchor. Just know you have impacted this entire community, and we can only HOPE that we run into you at the local markets with no makeup on! Thank you for your many years of service. Colorado Springs loves you!

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Posted by hattie on 07/18/2012 at 7:36 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs or bust

This family will be a great addition to the community - and kudos to them for not being scared away by the fire damage! And wanting to be part of the re-building when they are not even from here!

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Posted by jabberly on 07/17/2012 at 9:19 AM

Re: “Colorado Springs or bust

You're an inspiration yourselves, Hug family, and I wish you much success in attaining that Miracle House in the Springs!

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Posted by CSFan on 07/11/2012 at 11:12 AM

Re: “Primary still deserves analysis

Vote out Lamborn and Clark!

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Posted by TruthB on 07/06/2012 at 5:15 PM

Re: “Primary still deserves analysis

Mr Routon, most likely you are correct that: “this primary is already forgotten.”

For many of us who see the 9.4% unemployment rate (30,000 people), it has not and will not be forgotten. So much of this is a result of the national recession. Perhaps 60%. The other 40% ? Is it due to the fact that our county commissioners, going back for years, have been ‘anti-business’ and that the elimination of the business property tax that was going to drive people in droves to the region did not?

Reno/Lake Tahoe, under the guidance of Mike Kazmierski, just announced having landed a major company (Apple) to their area creating 400 very high paying jobs. They are on-track to see 2000 new jobs for this year. For 2011, 1810 jobs moved OUT out of the Springs.

The one major bright spot for jobs was the Walmart Data Center. No big deal with 40 jobs. But a big deal in the signal it could send to other major firms needing to host their data operations.

But maybe not. Sallie Clark almost torpedoed the Walmart deal coming close to sending it to Charlotte. Over the last weekend before this deal came to the county for approval of the tax incentive - - with approval by the city, the school district involved, the business community, the Chamber and the EDC, that very organization – in a last minute frenzy, had to spend an additional $4,000 to have Summit Economics prepare a special last minute report on the economic benefit to the region - - all to convince Sallie Clark to change her mind and approve the incentive package.

If you have already made up your mind we need new real vision and leadership and want to see this Board of Commissioners moved out to pasture - - and need a home with others working to defeat Sallie Clark, and Amy Lathen in the next election – log on and volunteer.

Our recent surveys indicated Mrs. Clark would take the primary by 57% to 43%. She won: 59%. The same surveys indicated that if subject to a county-wide vote, not just those from district 3, Mrs. Clark would lose 47% to 53%. She can be beat.

When nobody does anything, Nothing Happens! This is time to do something.

As a community, facing a serious budget crisis – exacerbated by the need to pay for the Waldo Canyon fire, voters have turned down 24 of the last 26 tax measures – and often, “lack of trust in local elected officials” has been stated as the reason.

When lack of trust comes to mind, what comes first: The Term Limit Trio?

And second? The fact civic leaders chose to exclude county officials during the Presidential visit on Friday. See companion letter in this edition of the Independent entitled: “Fire’s Missing Piece”. Could this be due to the comments by Amy Lathen in her “open letter to El Paso County Republicans” where she states: “Marxism or Liberty – Fascism or Liberty – Obama or Liberty” The government keeps track of who is who before the President arrives in a community - Did the Secret Service keep county commissioners from the man we elected to be our President - or was it the wisdom of local civic leaders?

Either way, is this the inter-agency cooperation, civility and regional cooperation that will move the region forward or it the kind of petty politics creating discord and creating gridlock?

One can have opposing differing political views and keep it civil. Only if we unseat the uncivil.

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Posted by Staci6 on 07/04/2012 at 4:38 AM

Re: “Ode to Lisa Lyden

Well said! I moved here in 1980, and Lisa has always been the go-to anchor in my house to get the straight truth...not to mention her professionalism, positive, caring attitude, etc. We will SO miss you, Lisa!

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Posted by Rebecca Hilb on 07/03/2012 at 10:32 PM

Re: “Challenge for United Way

Sad, but there is hope. There is a retired City Utilities Employee, aka the wealthy retired or WR, who gets $190,000 a year in retirement pay from PERA. (I am not making this up.) Said WR also gets $90,000 from the PERA check from expired Spouse, who was also a City Utilities retiree. Yep.

You can do the math. Said WR gets $280,000 a year for retirement. If I remember correctly, Bach gets about $100,000 for working. Utilities WR gets $280,000 for not working. Hm. Well, maybe Bach is overpaid, but what do I know? The real question is "HOW MANY UTILITIES WR GET SIMILAR CHECKS?" Fix that and you will have plenty of money for the disadvantaged.

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Posted by pokey on 06/17/2012 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Primary: no endorsements here

While I can't quite bring myself to register as a Repub, it's rather silly to be a registered Dem in El Paso County. I just received my primary election ballot which gives me a grand choice of one candidate for each of three offices. Is this really a good use of tax dollars?

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Posted by JerryS on 06/10/2012 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Primary: no endorsements here

Wow, Ralph, What a shocker. The always 'fair and balanced' Indy cannot, in good conscience, endorse anyone that leans conservative. Who woulda thought?

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Posted by smartestman on 06/09/2012 at 6:31 AM

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