My Dear smartestman,
You write, "moderate or modern, do you think it makes a difference."
Of course it does not make a difference to a propagandist who is more interested in the emotional impact of words than their actual meaning. But in order to have an intelligent discussion, one must use words to accurately describe facts, something you would not be familiar with since you only use words for personal attacks and insults.
I find it interesting that you do not even pretend to deny that your reading comprehension is wanting. This time you were caught in a misunderstanding, but how often have you misread or misunderstood what other people have written cannot be determined. Moreover, your bravado attempt to pass it off as unimportant merely highlights your vanity at the expense of your intelligence. I note that you have complained more than once that what I write makes no sense to you. Perhaps, if you read it over more slowly, sounding out each word, and with a dictionary handy, it would help.
I also notice that you ask a question without putting in a question mark. That is sloppy writing on top of sloppy reading, which is a sign of sloppy thinking.
My Dear smartestman,
First of all, in my original post, I accused Geo.W. Bush of appeasing Pakistan and praised Barack Obama for ignoring and bypassing Pakistan. I also accused Bush of deliberately abandoning the search for Osama bin Laden and praised Obama for nailing him. Finally, I accused Bush of alienating moderate Muslims and praised Obama for his success in reaching out to moderates in the Muslim community, a success so powerful that even the assassination of bin Laden could not destroy it.
In your own amusing, befuddled style you have taken exception to only the last point, that relations with moderate Muslims have improved under Obama. I take it that means that you cannot find anything wrong with the rest of my analysis.
K - moderate or modern, do you think it makes a difference. I am still LMAO.
My Dear smartestman,
I did not write "modern" Muslims. I wrote "moderate" Muslims." Looks like the joke is on you.
I will remember this post fondly the next time you question *my* reading comprehension.
K - "...modern Muslims the world over adore us." That tells anyone interested in reading anything you write all they need to know.
I can't quit laughing.
When Geo. W. Bush left office, he had given up the pursuit of Osama bin Laden in order to appease (yes, >>>to appease!<<<) our only "ally" in the region, Pakistan, and the attitude of moderate Muslims toward the US ranged from extreme irritation to outright anger.
By contrast, Barack Hussein Obama blind-sided Pakistan and executed Osama bin Laden, and moderate Muslims the world over adore us.
My Dear smartestman,
You write, "The fact that you call all contenders (just because they are conservative) village idiots shows you to be a mindless hack and not worthy of an intelligent discussion." I did not base my opinion on the conservatism of the candidates, and I certainly should have excepted John Huntsman, but I certainly meant it to include Mitt Romney, whom you might call a crypto-liberal and I would call a crypto-moderate.
You are very quick to jump to erroneous conclusions about me and my opinions and very determined to pigeonhole me, all in a concerted effort to discredit my ideas, which you frankly admit make no sense to you. To me that is the work of a mindless hack. Nor do I expect that I could get any intelligent discussion out of you, since you claim to be incapable of understanding anything I write.
Finally, when the dust settles history will judge Geo. W. Bush one of the worst and Obama as not so bad after all.
K - once again you believe yourself smarter than you are. "fundamental flaw" indeed. My point is, regardless of the quality of the current field of Republican contenders (witch is certainly debatable), it will not require much to beat the worst President in modern history including the incompetent Jimmy Carter.
The fact that you call all contenders (just because they are conservative) village idiots shows you to be a mindless hack and not worthy of an intelligent discussion.
I agree with OldCrank that an honest man has little chance of holding out alone in today's Republican Party.
Barry Goldwater is an interesting character. He led a revolt by the conservative wing of the party back in the sixties when it was much more moderate, and he was far more temperate in his conservatism than today's contenders, except in one thing. He was a fierce war hawk who managed to convince many people that he was capable of launching a unilateral missile strike against the Soviets and starting WW III.
The conservative revolt is credited by some pundits with tearing the Republican Party apart, rendering it for some years ineffectual.
My Dear smartestman,
You write "the conservative leaning contenders do not have to shine." That comment demonstrates the fundamental flaw with your political philosophy. You only care about winning the election. Should one of these village idiots get elected, he or she will be president, will have to contend with Congress, with Europe, with China, with the Middle East. Whoever wins will have to shine indeed. Another incompetent, like Geo. W. Bush, at this point in history will destroy us.
I do not care who the Republicans (or the Libertarians) nominate. For years now the Republicans have imitated European parties by imposing a strict discipline on all members, and punishing "mavericks" who don't knuckle under. I will take anyone except a Republican. If Democrats are running scared, it's because they are afraid the country will go socialist, not Republican!
Oldcrank, you are demonstrably wrong. As of today, national polls show Obama beating all specific Republican candidates (except Romney in just a couple of polls), and pretty well tied with a "generic" Republican. This indicates that the race could realistically go either way, at least with the current set of candidates. And keep in mind that this is probably the worst time for Obama in the polls. If the economy and unemployment rates show improvement over the next year, his numbers will certainly rise. I see no basis for Republican over-confidence at this point.
smartestman... yeah, and the way things are going I wouldn't bet against the GOP recruiting Bozo the Clown as a candidate!
There are several very viable and very electable GOP candidates out there. IN Governor Mitch Daniels comes to mind. Jeb needs to hold off for a decade, until most of us who remember W develop dimentia or die off. Face it, as long as the GOP condones cannibalizing their own, staging debates that rival the Gong Show, and relentlessly try to out-conservative one another they might as well concede the 2012 presidential election right now. I'm not an Obama fan, but Ralph is right one the money... Obama campaign strategists could not have planned it better themselves to get Barry re-elected.
Ralph, agree fully. I think JEB is the real deal, but his idiot dysfunctional little brother ruined the Bush name. I voted twice FOR the elder Bush, but G.W. was a total disgrace / disaster.
I hope JEB waits for 2016, meantime we'll let Obama do his best to heal the nation of G.W.'s stupidity and raping of the taxpayers and treasury for 8 years, though the current round of idiots in the GOP will try to stop every remedy as they're in bondage to their 1% masters.
I voted GOP most of my life, but today's anti-education, bible thumping, racist, gun nutter GOP and TEA party is so hopelessly lost in the weeds of hatefulness that I cannot stomach what they claim to stand for. It's no longer the party of Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower or Goldwater; more of a lynch mob or KKK meeting than a political party.
What worries me about JEB is his election might bring a return of the sort of abuses brought us by Rove and his band of thieving 1%'ers and neo-cons. JEB is only one guy and if his administration is filled by the same creeps who brought us economic collapse and a needless war, et al, then we're no better off.
Ralphie: although I don't share your disdain for all things Republican, the conservative leaning contenders do not have to shine. Bozo the Clown could run against your boy and win.
The Democrats are more than "running scared" the smarter ones know it is over.
I would prefer Libertarian, but I will take anything other than Obama.
Interesting cast of characters. During his last re-election effort, Randy Purvis promised to support opening the city lands on Pikes Peak to recreational use by the public. In his first chance to keep his promise, he voted against opening same recreational facilities. So much for his honesty, but hey, the Utilities Private Fishing Club continues as a employee benefit for City employees. I now have recent photographs of the picnic campfire sites near these reservoirs. But nobody goes there. Sure. Whatever you say. I'll send said photos to the Independent soon.
Old saying: A new broom sweeps clean.
Too bad that these mostly good folks will be replaced with sycophantic dregs.
KRFC Presents: Colorado Blues Society's Inaugural John-Alex Mason Scholarship Fund Benefit Concert.
Friday Dec 2. 8PM
Road 34 8PM.
Simulcast live on krfcfm.org (9PM).
Ronnie Shellist, Cassie Taylor, Jason Downing & Friends.
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John-Alex was beloved and respected throughout the blues music community, and that was particularly true here in Colorado. Many of us have been looking for a way to honor his memory, and help continue the educational work he felt was so important.
As you may know, John-Alex took high school students from Colorado Springs to Mississippi on more than one occasion for extended field trips that sometimes included visiting Memphis and New Orleans.
The Colorado Blues Society, a 501-c-3 nonprofit organization, will use the money raised to send student-aged musicians from Colorado to workshops and seminars that will further their blues music (and cultural) education.
https://www.facebook.com/events/1895111344…
Re: “Tough road for Legislature”
keith king pusking vouchers is NOT respected by Dems, but I expect GOPers to lie lie lie.
oh and even democrat politicians also!