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Comment Archives: stories: Columns: Between The Lines

Re: “Post lays an endorsement egg

Lameborn is a horrible representative. I think this district would be better off without a rep at all, versus the useless excuse that we've been punished with the past 6 years. I cancelled my Post subscription last year and I certainly don't regret it.

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Posted by gregR on 10/17/2012 at 4:28 PM

Re: “Differing previews of 2013

I have attended many "economic forums". I left each and every one of them wearing a "quizzical expression". The reason may be the nature of the beast. Economists are notoriously conservative in their outlook and therefor come off as nearly universally pessimistic.
It seems to me, given the state of the economy of the US and the world as well as the pending presidential election, folks have every right to be pessimistic.

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Posted by smartestman on 10/03/2012 at 7:11 AM

Re: “Creating a pathway to the Springs' future

Not real sure where you got the figure for 2.4M Portland residents you used to excuse our own city's failings, Ralph. U.S. Census puts them at...just under 600k. not trying to nit-pick your work, but what does the adjusted figure say about us? http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/41…

Posted by sbass777 on 09/26/2012 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Maketa's future on the line

This tax measure for the Sheriff Dept - thrown out at the last minute, with the knowledge we have of past tax initiatives that were well promoted and failed, causes me great concern with the level of judgment and planning capability at the county!

In 2008, about 6 months out from the election - began some minor 'promotion' for a tax measure 1A. Three months out from the election a massive campaign was mounted supported by the Chamber, The EDC, The City, HBA - Board of Realtors - quite an extensive list of supporters community wide all led by an organization called 'Citizens For Effective Government. It was a well run campaign.

The measure failed. 64% of the voters said NO. This measure was repleat with all manner of "The Sky is Falling" scenarious with the Sheriff using the same tactics he is using in the companion article in today's Independent. The head of the Health Dept stated that the Dept would be "DeFacto Extinct" by the end of the decade.

To have the Sheriff, and Mrs. Lathen use this same method - and doing it at the last minute - - - with all the evidence pointing to: "This Don't Work" just is stunning in the lack of preparation - - and particularly the lack of judgment!

At some point, it does seem there will have to be a 'management and coordination' team developed to make up for the lack of ability of elected officials and to ensure that what the county is doing does not interfere with what the city is doing.

I can only assume this measure will go down to defeat by an overwhelming margin with the added result it will not only irritate voters, but also bring forth serious doubts in the mind of the public about the leadership being displayed ? People who are uncertain about the quality of leaders they have elected - and with the high degree of distrust the county stimulates - - at a time when voters are awakening with renewed hostility over the term limit issue on the same ballot - - these are not people inclined to pass a tax hike!

Sallie and Amy are a little frightening but I expected a higher level of thought from Mr. Maketa. Perhaps a regional planning team to coordinate regional strategy will be the way to ensure as many needs can be met as possible with dwindling revenues.

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Posted by Donna Knight on 09/05/2012 at 7:32 AM

Re: “Maketa's future on the line

Mr. Routon brings up an interesting point with speculation that Terry Maketa (may) be positioning himself for a run at the Mayor Chair - at the same time Sallie Clark is also subject to the same rumor: never having recovered from the shock of having lost in her first bid to Lionel Rivera!

With each of these two individuals potentially in the mix, Terry quite competent, Sallie marginally so, it brings up what appears to be a definite problem for the entire region: The total lack of unity, cohesion and true cooperation between the city, the county and the related civic organizations that must work well in a coordinated fashion to meet the growing needs of an increasingly unemployed population.

This tax has been a direct slap in the face by Mrs Lathen and cohorts at not only the city, the concept of 'unity' but the Mayor and does not address the best needs of the community. To my knowledge, after minor research, and confirmed by the county, this tax measure has not been discussed by the county with any single other entity in the area! While we are still looking, I have seen no evidence this measure has any support from any individual, entity or organization need to have a chance of winning. Yet, it has the potential of being a threat to the extension of the PPRTA which has been of great benefit to the entire area.

Hopefully, as voters, we will see the need to approve this measure - we need it. An associated 'side need' is that of removing those career amateur politicians at the county level who have proven to be a roadblock to progress. Clark-Lathen-Hisey. Clark now and Hisey and Lathen in the future.

http://www.stopsallie.com/

The matter of Amy Lathen 'going rogue' with the AmyTerryTax - coming off the county's rather childish performance in front of city council over the distribution of funds for the future PPRTA program is an example of the lack of true collaboration that the region is well-known for. Angelou Economics, the firm which produced the Project 6035 report now gathering dust somewhere stated one deterrent to local economic development:

"POLARIZING IDEALOGICAL DIFFERENCES IN THE POLITICAL ARENA.

Did we just see this in action?

Spot on Angie ! You nailed in - the county shows it - and Amy amplifies it. Upon departing the Springs after four months of econ research, Mr. Angelou stated: "You will not achieve what we have set forth as you are too fractured and divided as a community."

Allowing those who have created such friction and who display such magnified hubris will benefit each of us how? With Sallie working behind the scenes to set up a run for Mayor, Maketa being thrown in the mix - Bensberg looking to take Lisa's seat on council, Lisa grooming herself for a place on the board - and Wayne Williams maneuvering to take control of city elections as well as county - perhaps we need to heed Mrs. Czelatdko's advice:

Pay some f****** attention !

Can we move forward and address critical problems by keeping in office those who have created the very problems - I think not and think we need to cut off the head of the beast by removing Sallie Clark - to leave Amy without an effective ally, and break the Clark-Lathen-Hisey voting block that we have seen - really creates the friction in the region while crafting poor policy. Log on and join up to assist - it gets better only if we make it better.

Richard D. Wehner

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Posted by Richard D.Wehner on 09/05/2012 at 5:23 AM

Re: “Dealing with this milestone

The more things change....etc. etc. Happy birthday; remember, you're here to celebrate it.

Posted by Morris on 08/30/2012 at 5:48 AM

Re: “Dealing with this milestone

Happy Birthday Ralph!! Hope it is a wonderful one. Seems like yesterday we were celebrating your big 50!

Posted by Shirley Merrell Long on 08/29/2012 at 3:33 PM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

Mr. Routon, what exactly are you doing to help the growth of jobs? The Mayor is putting out a challenge that is not impossible, but is a stretch goal. That is precisely what great leaders do in the private sector, challenge their teams to higher level of performance. People who say it can't be done should get out of the way of those doing it.

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Posted by Laura Carno on 08/20/2012 at 6:27 AM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

Up here at Tejon Street Tech, otherwise known as Colorado College, we call that bachwards..

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Posted by TejonTech on 08/17/2012 at 6:26 AM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

I've given up. We continue to go Bachwards, the city that started a trend up in the 70's is now the city and county of no. Courting that batch of conservative non profits (tax sinkholes) has not helped our reputation, not has closing the city pools (thanks for picking them up, Y) or the dying street trees under watered parks, and a host of other deferred maintenance issues. If we want youthful creative classes we need to court their desires and needs.

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Posted by marge on 08/16/2012 at 8:04 PM

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable

Re: “Mayor's jobs goal: laughable”

Had to read this six times using a sixth sense to realize the gravity of negative impact these kinds of statements have in building any credibility with the public toward considering the kinds of public investment required to draw major firms to the area.

Realistic Expectation might be 6000 new civilian jobs over 6 years. The real growth potential is the encouragement and support for local new business start-ups with a long-term view of stable companies rooted in the local community.

The real business community outside of Colorado Springs - the ones seeking expansion sights, I would rather imagine - still consider this a region of 'knuckle-draggers' when it comes to local leadership, cooperation and regional cohesiveness. This was best witnessed when the county commissioners, with well-developed scabs on each of ten knuckles - - walked into city council chambers whining and making statements as: "We were blind-sided" or - - "The city is making a turf war out of this", and "We will grudingly agree to approve this". Absolutely no evidence of a sense of community spirit or willingness to work together for the common good. It is a 'turf-war' and the county wants the turf!

This is one region. One set of needs. Yet two governing bodies (three when you consider the Chamber-EDC herd) who appear not to realize they all live in the same area facing the same needs - - and that the Antlers does have smaller rooms with tables and chairs where the competing entities could meet to discuss a 'regional' strategy to meet the shared needs. After the coming Chapter 9 - perhaps the Antlers will offer the rooms at reduced rates to those who will have to come together in unity to pick up the pieces.

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Posted by Rick Wehner on 08/15/2012 at 6:38 AM

Re: “Maher recharges the batteries

Great review - wish I could have been there.

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Posted by gregR on 08/01/2012 at 8:46 AM

Re: “Maher recharges the batteries

Routon writes: "And this wasn't the liberal extremists, either."
Talk about opinion. Here is another opinion. Yes it was. Who else would be stupid enough to pay to see Bill Maher?

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Posted by smartestman on 08/01/2012 at 6:48 AM

Re: “Fire followup: open to all

What do you expect from a city that can't even sync its traffic lights.

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Posted by TejonTech on 07/29/2012 at 1:22 PM

Re: “Fire followup: open to all

Let me ask you this mtnlover, since you seem to have all the answers. Question #1: Do you know what is, far and away, the most expensive component of a new home? The production lots were probably around 70K. Custom lots could have been up to $200K. Would you have been able to afford the home if they cost another $50,000?
Question #2: Do you think builders would have built those homes if people like you were not demanding to live there?
Question #3: Why is it that some people cannot accept personal responsibility and are always looking for someone or something else to blame?

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Posted by smartestman on 07/29/2012 at 10:59 AM

Re: “Fire followup: open to all

Let me first say that I live in Mtn Shadows and know the subdivisions and the terrain intimately. I completely agree that the city could, and should, of handled the evacuations better and that it should of happened much sooner than it did. As for the argument that the city should have done more and brought in more help sooner in fighting the fire and that would of saved hundreds of houses - not so much. Had the city brought in more help sooner, built more fire breaks, etc a few dozen more homes might have been saved but that would of been it. There were 200 ft flames that Tuesday and fire lines would of been easily jumped. The key problem was the lack of common sense in the early 90s when developers went to the city with their plans for subdivisions in the area. Houses in certain subdivisions were way too close to each other and that led to firefighters not being able to stop the spread of the fire because they had maybe 10 ft between houses and 100 ft flames. A little investigation will show that some Mtn Shadows subdivisions were destroyed almost 100%. That is the fault of the Pike Peak Building Department and City Council in the early 1990s, not the current city government.

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Posted by mtnlover on 07/29/2012 at 9:25 AM

Re: “Pivotal period for Bach

Colorado Springs City Council, acting as the Utilities Board on 7/18/2012, voted 7-2 to go ahead with the NeuStream scrubber as planned at the Drake Power Plant. Council member Tim Leigh said he was convinced of the efficacy of NeuStream and voted with the majority to install the NeuStream scrubber. See the full story at http://www.gazette.com/articles/drake-1418…

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Posted by Rob Fredell on 07/18/2012 at 9:06 PM

Re: “Ode to Lisa Lyden

Lisa, though it has not been mentioned, I can't help but wonder about your home. I know you were neighbors to friends of mine who lost their home in the Waldo Canyon fire. I sure hope not, but I can see how the fire (losing or not losing your home) would have affected your life tremendously, hence, your decision to leave as our FAVORITE anchor. Just know you have impacted this entire community, and we can only HOPE that we run into you at the local markets with no makeup on! Thank you for your many years of service. Colorado Springs loves you!

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Posted by hattie on 07/18/2012 at 7:36 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs or bust

This family will be a great addition to the community - and kudos to them for not being scared away by the fire damage! And wanting to be part of the re-building when they are not even from here!

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Posted by jabberly on 07/17/2012 at 9:19 AM

Re: “Colorado Springs or bust

You're an inspiration yourselves, Hug family, and I wish you much success in attaining that Miracle House in the Springs!

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Posted by CSFan on 07/11/2012 at 11:12 AM

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