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Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

The email from Amy Lathen is so obese with political buzzwords and double speak that it's substance-free, like Fox News. It's just another sound bite from a sleazy old pol who conned you once before with a weasel-worded 'term limits' fraud that got her a 3rd term. IGNORE LATHEN and the slate of cronies CSF is putting forward. The mere fact that Lathen is even associated with CSF tells you all you need to know about the group ... beware ....beware ....beware ...beware....

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Posted by OldCrank on 02/08/2017 at 5:59 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

This could be an interesting - and remotely possible successful three ring circus - that could lead to changes for the betterment of the community:

How do you take the inept, arrogant management style of a Lane or Stimple - temper it with the skilled finesse of a Johnson and Stuart - tossed in with the extreme right wing views of a Lathen - - and combine them with the socially liberal, inclusive views of a Weiss, and come out with a meeting of the minds and combined team who can find a way clear to address serious community needs.

Community needs exist. Do these two teams have the skill to be effective addressing those needs?

The lead economic analyst who produced the 2009 Project 6035 Report walked away stating: "The community is far to divisive to accomplish any of the goals set forth."

Lane took the ball and ran with it. Never made it past the 20 yard line!

The town appears to have become even more divisive.

A coalition of these two groups - pretty much spans the ideological and political spectrum, and if combined with a true economic development organization brought in from outside the area - Colorado Springs might become an economic powerhouse for Southern Colorado rather than lagging behind Fort Collins and Boulder!

A decade long process. It could happen. Let's hope. Now, who has Brady's jersey?

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 3:45 PM

Re: “No separation of Church and Trump

those pesky facts are not inflammatory editorials. gorsuch put that label, fascist, into his yearbook quotation... himself. denying reproductive health insurance is what this religious freak did with the hobby lobby decision. these are the real facts... you alternative reality dumbasses can believe what ever you want.

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Posted by happyfew on 02/08/2017 at 2:46 PM

Re: “Parting words from the Sage

John: Thanks for your refreshing and insightful columns. You WILL be missed.

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Posted by Bill W. on 02/08/2017 at 2:31 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Fox has been lurking in the hen house for years.

Agree that the new litter of pups sired by CSF need to be blocked at the door:

Geislinger (gets a free ride)

Mayor takes off - Bennett is Mayor unless new council selects a new President.

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

So glad C4C is near death, it was a SCAM from the start. I hated C4C for the reasons 'curious' spoke of and over the years I've spilled my bile here about this boondoggle. C4C should totally go away except for the UCCS sports medicine facility which is a positive asset for the city and has NOTHING to do with tourism.

Taxpayer funds should not be used for stadiums or arenas; thats what "free market capitalism" should do. Funny how the GOP is always shoving "free market capitalism" down our throats - until their chums want to slop at OUR trough. Just say NO to C4C, son of C4C, etc.

If an Olympic Museum gets built it should be done with donations from fans of the games. How about seeking ESPN-Disney or other major networks to support it? There are trillions of dollars out there just sloshing around the globe looking for good investments. Did they try that angle? I doubt it, the people behind C4C are not that industrious, though they are willing to work hard at fleecing the local rubes via the "strong mayor" they foisted on the same local rubes who no doubt voted for the "strong man" disaster now in the White House.

Putting an airplane museum downtown is beyond folly, a monumental joke. Leave it at Pete Field where it is and spend a few bucks to improve it rather than spend a fortune for a new place downtown. NOTE: World-class Udvar-Hazy aviation museum is at Dulles Airport near D.C., and not downtown on the National Mall, Constitution Ave, or at the Lincoln Memorial.

If a sports stadium gets built, it belongs at the defunct Colorado Crossing at Interquest and Voyager (I-25, exit 153) where the Parks Board is now working to implement a youth sports complex ( ). The sports complex is natural fit for a stadium to host soccer and the semi-pro football league, etc. The unfinished hotel and movie shells would then be attractive to investors for completion. Thus the city could take that 150 acre eyesore across from New Life Church and turn it into an excellent anchor for the far north side of the city that is growing strongly. Where are the dreamers who can visualize a great future....

If you want a vibrant downtown fill it with affordable mid-to-high rise residential towers where there is good walkability scores to eateries, groceries, pharmacies, doctors, dentists, lawyers, barbers and salons, gym, dry cleaners, stock brokers, jeweler, etc, etc. Amenities like Pikes Peak Center and Kimball's Peak Three are already there, just need to live nearby. People are tired of auto-centric suburbs where one must drive to get to everything.

There is so much opportunity in this city it isnt funny, but it seems were stuck in a loop with a bunch of local "operators" who want to think small and fill their own pockets at our expense.

Vote AGAINST anyone put forward by CSF, don't let the fox into OUR henhouse.

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Posted by OldCrank on 02/08/2017 at 1:15 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced


Good thought!

One thing that could be a real boost to the future of the region is to have a professional team that would have the ability to bring that kind of 'sound mind' thinking to corral all the potential projects - the range of options to fund them - and generate regional cooperation to make them happen - much as what was done by the business community for Austin when it was deep into decline. Rather, COS has too many competing entities and no real leadership - there is the 'new' chamber/edc with no one on board with deep economic development experience - and the Colorado Springs Forward group which appears to be on the path of becoming yet another 'factor of divisiveness' for the community.

Perhaps when the current crop of aged leaders really age out and disappear, younger more realistic and collaborative leaders can set the tone to make all the great things happen that lies with grasp for the city yet so often just out of reach. Then if not, being a cute tourist/retirement town on life support from defense dollars is not all that bad.

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 1:12 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Someone of a sound mind should have proposed that the air museum be part of the AFA visitor center plan, as they have the infrastructure and the land available to make flyable exhibits work.

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Posted by LivesLocally on 02/08/2017 at 12:57 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

And now there is news that private donations for the Pike's Peak summit house replacement have also failed to materialize - meaning that COS taxpayers will likely be picking up the tab for that venue.

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Posted by LivesLocally on 02/08/2017 at 12:54 PM

Re: “Parting words from the Sage

I wish you the best and enjoyed your columns for our few years in CoSps. I've seen this coming for sometime ... columns bemoaning how the city ignores every chance to improve itself, the destructive power of stupid voters using TABOR to degrade their own city and it still begs questions about why people vote against their own best interests and piss in their own beer. It wasn't our home town, so we left last year for places with adult supervision and no TABOR. Thanks again for great columns and trying your best to improve what could be an amazing place.

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Posted by OldCrank on 02/08/2017 at 12:21 PM

Re: “In a silenced way

I miss you, Lenny! My family and I thank you for all the special times. RIP.

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Posted by Peter Tuff on 02/08/2017 at 10:57 AM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

For at least the last 2 years, COS has been experiencing robust tourist seasons and sales tax revenue has greatly exceeded expectations. And none of this success can be attributed to the C4C projects (which except for the UCCS sports medicine facility, haven't been built yet) but can be attributed to the cessation of wildfires. COS does not need the State's $120M (receivable over 30 years) to defray a small portion of the cost to fund venues that will attract tourists. While COS lacks what every other large City considers to be essential - a downtown stadium and a major league team to occupy it - we have the AFA, the Broadmoor and the Great Outdoors and THAT'S why out-of-towners come to COS.

Of course, the Olympic museum needs the State rebate because thats the carrot being dangled to attract private money to invest, but even so its been extraordinarily difficult to extract donations from our local 1%ers. COS taxpayers are in danger of having to fill the shortfall this in addition to paying $51M for infrastructure. However, without the stadium, Jenkins garage under his to-be-built skyscraper condo building, located at the west end of the to-be-built pedestrian bridge leading to the to-be-built Olympic museum may not be needed, thereby reducing the $51M somewhat.

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Posted by curious on 02/08/2017 at 9:49 AM

Re: “Could El Paso County get caught in Trump’s immigration policy?

how about we start letting in 100,000 Russian armed immigrants monthly maybe they could make the states OBAY currant immigration laws its called US CODE read it wise guy NO ID NO passport NO shot records CO criminal background check NO NO NO WTF are you folks insane or just stupid For all the bleeding liberals OPEN YOUR HOUSE UP PUT UP A SIGN that says OPEN DOOR POLICY--FREE ENTRY HERE come on in i dont have any guns and there cash here for you and i have 3 children then punch yourself in the face

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Posted by fairlady280 on 02/08/2017 at 9:13 AM

Re: “No separation of Church and Trump

Sadly, I could not really read this article, bumping into two misleading statements immediately ("possible teenage fascist Neil Gorsuch" , "denying medical coverage for certain care, like reproductive health"). Please, oh please, lets have some real journalism instead of inflammatory editorials.

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Posted by Elle Ameno on 02/08/2017 at 9:06 AM

Re: “Parting words from the Sage

John, thanks for your stories over the years. You will truly be missed. Best wishes for your future endeavors, which should include warm sandy beaches.

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Posted by gregR on 02/08/2017 at 7:32 AM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Seems there is a plethora of penetrating questions needing to be asked of city council challengers during the rash of 'candidate forums' that will be scheduled.

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 7:31 AM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Three quarters of the "City for Champions" proposal was/is sheer nonsense. Only the Olympic museum ever made sense from an economic benefit perspective - and even that is going to cost local taxpayers tens of millions in roads, parking garages, and pedestrian improvements.

It will be interesting to see if the RTA board goes along with any changes in the original proposal, as the C4C was sold to them as a package, thus they have every right to revoke their original approval.

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Posted by UCanSeeClearlyNow on 02/08/2017 at 7:15 AM

Re: “Parting words from the Sage

John, I'll miss your acerbic wit!

As for that place in Tahiti, I'd go for that. Warm weather soothes old bodies. A tropical drink with one of those umbrellas listening to the surf...

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Posted by billd on 02/08/2017 at 6:00 AM

Re: “Medical marijuana for PTSD bill advances

Please consider the following as a front page article on Post Traumatic Stress Disorder -

The Transcendental Meditation ("TM") program has been approved by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs for over 20 years for soldiers with PTSD.

Kindly watch and share with all -

"PTSD and Transcendental Meditation - David George, Infantryman" (2:34; / excellent!)


"Transcendental Meditation Improves Performance at Military University" (5:12; )

Also, see the dramatic effects for Domestic Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder for women and children, and for PTSD for "First Responders", at (5:24)

Also please enjoy, "Use a Treatment for PTSD That Actually Works" in The Hill, Washington DC


"Transcendental Meditation May Reduce PTSD Symptoms, Medication in Active-Duty Personnel" in EurekAlert (01/11/16)


Bill @ (a thirty-nine year "TM'er")

P.S. Please visit for more information.

Note: Results are available for long-standing PTSD symptoms, as well, including for Vietnam Veterans.

Also, from :

"Transcendental Meditation - a Path to Healing"

"Doctors promised him through medication and hard work he could potentially heal over the course of years, but since transcendental meditation he has moved much closer to achieving his recovery in months."

- U.S. Army official website

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Posted by Bill Torrington on 02/08/2017 at 5:24 AM

Re: “Skorman leaves Save Cheyenne, focuses on 2017 council race

I fully agree with Mr. Bensberg. Mr.Skorman would bring to council the much needed real life experience in the competitive business environment! Almost daily, there are articles in the local press linking one to sites where Colorado Springs as touted as being one of the most top rated cities because of its parks, open space and outdoor experience!

Continuing to support candidates who will work hard to maintain and improve parks and promote 'the economic viability' of the city that provides funding for acquiring and maintaining parks is essential.

The 04 April Election is one experiencing a well-funded take-over attempt by Colorado Springs Forward to stack the city council (and the Board of Directors for Colorado Springs Utilities) with a majority of council members they support and who will endorse policies favoring their limited agenda.

Please consider carefully the impact of voting for those candidates supported by CSF by asking: What have they really done for the community and can the community be well served by having a Broadmoor/Builder/Developer dominated city council?

The current incumbents, Don Knight, Andy Pico, Helen Collins and Jill Gaebler have done a yeoman job on council - - bringing engineering and analytical thinking to the process of local governance to offset the rather bumbling, mayor/developer roll-over votes of Bagley and Bennett.

Mr. Bagley and Mr. King will not be running. Therefore exists the chance for voters to install a very well-balanced council by electing a seasoned businessman to council with a vote for Richard Skorman and re-electing Jill Gaebler, Don Knight, Helen Collins and Andy Pico.

Please consider scrolling town to the bottom of the Colorado Springs Forward website to review the candidates they support and ask: What has Colorado Springs Forward actually accomplished in their four years of existence and what do their candidates really bring of value to city council?

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 4:06 AM

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