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Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

Ok? www.coloradoprogressiveparty.org is socialist republican? Wuut? But the article says "you don't have to be Democrat"...hmmm. I say every person gets one acre when born, no silly governments.

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Posted by jwalker on 02/13/2017 at 9:00 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

Really? Third term? How about strict term limits and transparency? Progressives like Bernie promise free college in health care..wuuuuht? www.ColoradoProgressiveParty.org
Old crank?

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Posted by colohgram on 02/12/2017 at 7:10 PM

Re: “Together for Colorado Springs to help candidates, support issues

I'm all for free tuition at state universities! AND SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE! Super! www.coloradoprogressiveparty.org

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Posted by coloradostrward on 02/11/2017 at 10:06 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

Minor nit-pick. I believe that Dawn Haliburton-Rudy was referring to the Colorado Springs Women's March, that drew 7,000 people of all genders and hues, not 700 as indicated in this blog. This is perhaps the largest local march since anti-Viet Nam war protests of the early 1970's.

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Posted by JgW on 02/09/2017 at 9:15 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

You're right that marijuana sales are a major factor in the rise of tax revenue. But it doesn't account for the high-occupancy rate reported by the hotel/hospitality sector. Legal marijuana is also a major factor in the rise of "homeless" vagrants migrating to COS.

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Posted by curious on 02/09/2017 at 8:43 AM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

the fact that there has been an increase in tourism is due as much to marijuana being legal here than any other reason. when the other states, and smart cities, see the tax advantages of legal pot this tourism source will go away. we will go back to being a quiet back woods retirement community that we were and many still strive for us to remain. our old fart thinking and bigoted anti-tolerance attitudes will continue to hurt the chances of anyone under 75 wanting to come here.

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Posted by happyfew on 02/09/2017 at 8:14 AM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Mr. Casimir,

Valid points! However, methinks we have too high a set of expectations.

The wishy-washy moderators, simple generic questions, and acceptance of canned 'sound-byte' answers are all that can be expected!

Looking at the candidates choosing to challenge the incumbents in the city election, not sure one would want to ask very deep questions! Those 'deer in the headlight' stares would be frequent.

Rob Quirk from KOAA used to ask hard questions and not let candidates 'skate' by with non-answers. Is he still in town? If I remember from last time in the area during an election, the Citizen Project had a good moderator. Might be worth submitting questions to them?

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 10:24 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

The pillars Ms. Lathen leans on for support are not the voice of a 'wide range of citizens' but only a few, wealthy developers who want development funded on the backs of taxpayers and utilities ratepayers. CSF and their endorsed city council candidates will never support the many voices of Together for Colorado Springs, as those broad-based, community voices represent the people, not the elite.

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Posted by Owen on 02/08/2017 at 10:06 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Staci6: Re: your penetrating questions.
Until the time arrives that we, as a voting public, stand up and demand to ask questions of all candidates face to face and not through social media, we will continue to witness these so-called "candidate forums" for the farces they are. Screened questions delivered by media types and no follow-up is a disservice to the citizens by said media types.

Personally, I would like to see questions asked that would make the candidates and incumbents "Sweat" and a moderator that says, "You didn't answer the question" when talking points are thrown around with abandon and no justifications for their positions.

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Posted by Gary Casimir on 02/08/2017 at 9:07 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

Mr. OldCrank,

I may be mistaken, but I think Sallie Clark and Dennis Hisey were the only commissioners who gained a third term due to their efforts, and those of Amy Lathen - to self-impose a third term for themselves in express contradiction to what the voters stated - In fact, after the statements from Clark re: "Oh, but all my voters in my district want me to serve a third term" - her district had the highest percentage who voted against the 3rd term in the second vote. Clark does not seem to realize she is no longer in office!

Lathen, was not elected. She was 'appointed' to fill the seat vacated by Doug Bruce when he won a statehouse seat in Denver. She was re-elected to her second and only full term before jumping ship and vacating her seat 6 months early to join CSF.

Do you think that with the seemingly increasing numbers of those of us who are not at all impressed with CSF, they might find all four of their candidates shut out by voters seeing the wisdom of keeping the incumbents in place?

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Posted by Robert Gentry on 02/08/2017 at 6:39 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

The email from Amy Lathen is so obese with political buzzwords and double speak that it's substance-free, like Fox News. It's just another sound bite from a sleazy old pol who conned you once before with a weasel-worded 'term limits' fraud that got her a 3rd term. IGNORE LATHEN and the slate of cronies CSF is putting forward. The mere fact that Lathen is even associated with CSF tells you all you need to know about the group ... beware ....beware ....beware ...beware....

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Posted by OldCrank on 02/08/2017 at 5:59 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Together for Colorado Springs launch draws over 500

This could be an interesting - and remotely possible successful three ring circus - that could lead to changes for the betterment of the community:

How do you take the inept, arrogant management style of a Lane or Stimple - temper it with the skilled finesse of a Johnson and Stuart - tossed in with the extreme right wing views of a Lathen - - and combine them with the socially liberal, inclusive views of a Weiss, and come out with a meeting of the minds and combined team who can find a way clear to address serious community needs.

Community needs exist. Do these two teams have the skill to be effective addressing those needs?

The lead economic analyst who produced the 2009 Project 6035 Report walked away stating: "The community is far to divisive to accomplish any of the goals set forth."

Lane took the ball and ran with it. Never made it past the 20 yard line!

The town appears to have become even more divisive.

A coalition of these two groups - pretty much spans the ideological and political spectrum, and if combined with a true economic development organization brought in from outside the area - Colorado Springs might become an economic powerhouse for Southern Colorado rather than lagging behind Fort Collins and Boulder!

A decade long process. It could happen. Let's hope. Now, who has Brady's jersey?

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 3:45 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Fox has been lurking in the hen house for years.

Agree that the new litter of pups sired by CSF need to be blocked at the door:

Basham
Crow-Iverson
Fowler
Hendrix
Geislinger (gets a free ride)

Mayor takes off - Bennett is Mayor unless new council selects a new President.

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 2:04 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

So glad C4C is near death, it was a SCAM from the start. I hated C4C for the reasons 'curious' spoke of and over the years I've spilled my bile here about this boondoggle. C4C should totally go away except for the UCCS sports medicine facility which is a positive asset for the city and has NOTHING to do with tourism.

Taxpayer funds should not be used for stadiums or arenas; thats what "free market capitalism" should do. Funny how the GOP is always shoving "free market capitalism" down our throats - until their chums want to slop at OUR trough. Just say NO to C4C, son of C4C, etc.

If an Olympic Museum gets built it should be done with donations from fans of the games. How about seeking ESPN-Disney or other major networks to support it? There are trillions of dollars out there just sloshing around the globe looking for good investments. Did they try that angle? I doubt it, the people behind C4C are not that industrious, though they are willing to work hard at fleecing the local rubes via the "strong mayor" they foisted on the same local rubes who no doubt voted for the "strong man" disaster now in the White House.

Putting an airplane museum downtown is beyond folly, a monumental joke. Leave it at Pete Field where it is and spend a few bucks to improve it rather than spend a fortune for a new place downtown. NOTE: World-class Udvar-Hazy aviation museum is at Dulles Airport near D.C., and not downtown on the National Mall, Constitution Ave, or at the Lincoln Memorial.

If a sports stadium gets built, it belongs at the defunct Colorado Crossing at Interquest and Voyager (I-25, exit 153) where the Parks Board is now working to implement a youth sports complex ( http://tinyurl.com/jvccyrh ). The sports complex is natural fit for a stadium to host soccer and the semi-pro football league, etc. The unfinished hotel and movie shells would then be attractive to investors for completion. Thus the city could take that 150 acre eyesore across from New Life Church and turn it into an excellent anchor for the far north side of the city that is growing strongly. Where are the dreamers who can visualize a great future....

If you want a vibrant downtown fill it with affordable mid-to-high rise residential towers where there is good walkability scores to eateries, groceries, pharmacies, doctors, dentists, lawyers, barbers and salons, gym, dry cleaners, stock brokers, jeweler, etc, etc. Amenities like Pikes Peak Center and Kimball's Peak Three are already there, just need to live nearby. People are tired of auto-centric suburbs where one must drive to get to everything.

There is so much opportunity in this city it isnt funny, but it seems were stuck in a loop with a bunch of local "operators" who want to think small and fill their own pockets at our expense.

Vote AGAINST anyone put forward by CSF, don't let the fox into OUR henhouse.

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Posted by OldCrank on 02/08/2017 at 1:15 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Liveslocally

Good thought!

One thing that could be a real boost to the future of the region is to have a professional team that would have the ability to bring that kind of 'sound mind' thinking to corral all the potential projects - the range of options to fund them - and generate regional cooperation to make them happen - much as what was done by the business community for Austin when it was deep into decline. Rather, COS has too many competing entities and no real leadership - there is the 'new' chamber/edc with no one on board with deep economic development experience - and the Colorado Springs Forward group which appears to be on the path of becoming yet another 'factor of divisiveness' for the community.

Perhaps when the current crop of aged leaders really age out and disappear, younger more realistic and collaborative leaders can set the tone to make all the great things happen that lies with grasp for the city yet so often just out of reach. Then if not, being a cute tourist/retirement town on life support from defense dollars is not all that bad.

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 1:12 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Someone of a sound mind should have proposed that the air museum be part of the AFA visitor center plan, as they have the infrastructure and the land available to make flyable exhibits work.

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Posted by LivesLocally on 02/08/2017 at 12:57 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

And now there is news that private donations for the Pike's Peak summit house replacement have also failed to materialize - meaning that COS taxpayers will likely be picking up the tab for that venue.

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Posted by LivesLocally on 02/08/2017 at 12:54 PM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

For at least the last 2 years, COS has been experiencing robust tourist seasons and sales tax revenue has greatly exceeded expectations. And none of this success can be attributed to the C4C projects (which except for the UCCS sports medicine facility, haven't been built yet) but can be attributed to the cessation of wildfires. COS does not need the State's $120M (receivable over 30 years) to defray a small portion of the cost to fund venues that will attract tourists. While COS lacks what every other large City considers to be essential - a downtown stadium and a major league team to occupy it - we have the AFA, the Broadmoor and the Great Outdoors and THAT'S why out-of-towners come to COS.

Of course, the Olympic museum needs the State rebate because thats the carrot being dangled to attract private money to invest, but even so its been extraordinarily difficult to extract donations from our local 1%ers. COS taxpayers are in danger of having to fill the shortfall this in addition to paying $51M for infrastructure. However, without the stadium, Jenkins garage under his to-be-built skyscraper condo building, located at the west end of the to-be-built pedestrian bridge leading to the to-be-built Olympic museum may not be needed, thereby reducing the $51M somewhat.

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Posted by curious on 02/08/2017 at 9:49 AM

Re: “Could El Paso County get caught in Trump’s immigration policy?

how about we start letting in 100,000 Russian armed immigrants monthly maybe they could make the states OBAY currant immigration laws its called US CODE read it wise guy NO ID NO passport NO shot records CO criminal background check NO NO NO WTF are you folks insane or just stupid For all the bleeding liberals OPEN YOUR HOUSE UP PUT UP A SIGN that says OPEN DOOR POLICY--FREE ENTRY HERE come on in i dont have any guns and there cash here for you and i have 3 children then punch yourself in the face

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Posted by fairlady280 on 02/08/2017 at 9:13 AM

Re: “Downtown stadium off the table, new City for Champions project announced

Seems there is a plethora of penetrating questions needing to be asked of city council challengers during the rash of 'candidate forums' that will be scheduled.

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Posted by Staci6 on 02/08/2017 at 7:31 AM

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