Saturday, May 18, 2013
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Re: “HB 1081, the sex-ed bill, awaits Hickenlooper's signature”
Schools need to teach our young people how to be personally responsible and self-sustaining...sex without consequences and responsibility is not a helpful contribution to that end.
Perhaps this money ought to be spent training parents how to parent, how to have a positively formational home, and boys that they must take responsibility for their actions.
This is just more of the gay/abortion lobby's agenda driven education and is destructive of society and the lives of our children.
I would not send my children to public schools in the new liberal Hickenlooper Colorado. The guy is the worst thing to happen to our state in all the decades I have lived here.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/10/2013 at 8:37 AM
Re: “Rejected by title board, Springs' anti-frackers strategize”
Take the city to court. It's the only way to fight these people.
Posted by
staunchliberal
on 05/09/2013 at 8:06 AM
Re: “Broadmoor boosts campaign of Keith King”
Just follow the money. What a joke.
Posted by
staunchliberal
on 05/09/2013 at 8:04 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Sorry to try to help, but I'm not a fkn mind reader. You may want to check with references with the Jewish Historian Josephus who recorded what happened during that period of time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/08/2013 at 7:35 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
gurudori, I do not recall asking for a sermon on Judaism. I am sure I know more about Jewish beliefs and customs than you ever will.
Buried in your diatribe is a reference to Acts:20, which turns out to be the tiny bit of information I had asked for. Thank you.
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 05/08/2013 at 6:54 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
From what I remember, the Jews felt that claiming that Jesus was the Christ and Son of God (equating him to God) and preaching it to the jews in the synagogue was blasphemous. Judaism has never accepted any of the claimed fulfillments of prophecy that Christianity attributes to Jesus. Judaism also forbids the worship of a person as a form of idolatry- continued below:
Acts 6:11- heard him (Stephen) speak blashemous words against Moses and against God.
Acts 9:1- Saul slaughters against the disciples of the Lord. then Saul gets converted. Vs 20- Saul preached Christ in the synagogues…vs - Jews took counsel to kill him.
23:12- Jews vow to kill Apostle Paul (Saul)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy Judaism[edit]
Blasphemy is the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for a religious deity or the irreverence towards religious or holy persons or things.[1] Some countries have laws to punish blasphemy,[2] while others have laws that sanction those who are offended by blasphemy to effect their wrath on blasphemers. Those laws may condone penalties or retaliation for blasphemy under the labels ofblasphemous libel,[3] expression of opposition, or "villification," of religion or of some religious practices,[4][5] religious insult,[6] orhate speech.[7]
In the third book of the Torah, Leviticus 24:16 states that he that blasphemes the name of the LORD "shall surely be put to death". See also List of capital crimes in the Torah. The Seven laws of Noah, which Judaism sees as applicable to all people, prohibit blasphemy.
Judaism's view of Jesus
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Judaism generally views Jesus as one of a number of false messiahs who have appeared throughout history.[1] Jesus is viewed as having been the most influential, and consequently the most damaging, of all false messiahs.[2] However, since the mainstream Jewish belief is that theMessiah has not yet come and that theMessianic Age is not yet present, the totalrejection of Jesus as either messiah or deity in Judaism has never been a central issue for Judaism. At the heart of Judaism are theTorah, its commandments, the Tanakh, and ethical monotheism such as in the Shema — all of which predated Jesus.
Judaism has never accepted any of the claimed fulfillments of prophecy that Christianity attributes to Jesus. Judaism also forbids the worship of a person as a form ofidolatry, since the central belief of Judaism isthe absolute unity and singularity of God.[3][4]Jewish eschatology holds that the coming of the Messiah will be associated with a specific series of events that have not yet occurred, including the return of Jews to their homeland and therebuilding of The Temple, a Messianic Age of peace[5] and understanding during which "the knowledge of God" fills the earth,[6] and since Jews believe that none of these events occurred during the lifetime of Jesus (nor have they occurred afterwards, except for the return of many Jews to their homeland inIsrael), he is not a candidate for messiah.
Judaism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_of_…
Main article: Holy Spirit (Judaism)
The term "holy spirit" occurs only three times in the Hebrew Bible. (Found once in Psalm 51:11 and twice in Isaiah 63:10,11) Although, the term "spirit" in the Hebrew Scriptures, in reference to "God's spirit", does occur more times. InJudaism, God is One, the idea of God as a duality or trinity amonggentiles may beShituf (or "not purely monotheistic"). The termRuach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) is found frequently inTalmudic and Midrashic literature. In some cases it signifies prophetic inspiration, while in others it is used as a hypostatization or a metonym for God.[21]The Rabbinic “Holy Spirit,” has a certain degree of personification, but it remains, “a quality belonging to God, one of his attributes” and not, as in mainstream Christianity, representative of “any metaphysical divisions in the Godhead.”[22]
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/08/2013 at 4:35 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
gurudori, you posted a lot of stuff that I already knew, but did not answer my question, so let me clarify: Does the Christian Bible state that "...the Jews wanted him [Saul/Paul] excuted for converting to Christianity and blaspheme again OT..." or is that statement based on tradition and commentaries?
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 05/08/2013 at 2:06 PM
Re: “20- and 30-somethings find little hope, hospitality within recent city politics”
This is a city that never had a goal and thus never had a plan. Thus it is a city that is completely irrelevant among other US cities.
That is why new thought is required.
For years the old hands around this city thought that new homes were the economic messiah - the key to creating wealth - but we are now discovering it was a false god, as neighborhoods come with costly and everlasting infrastructure burdens such as water, roads, and fire/police support.
The real answer is entrepreneurial enterprises - something that only young minds can provide.
Posted by
ConcernedCitizen
on 05/07/2013 at 10:45 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Forgive me Mr K, but it has been 25 years since I was a Pentecostal apprentice minister, so if anyone would like to check my source on Biblical matters, I highly recommend a few books by Dr. V.P. Wierwille: Power for Abundant Living, Receiving the Holy Spirit Today and Jesus Christ our Passover. All are available on amazon.com and are part of the Power for Abundant Living Biblical research series that he wrote. Amazing stuff folks!
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/07/2013 at 8:37 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Wikipedia :Homosexual behavior in other animals
Roy and Silo, two New York Central Park Zoo male Chinstrap Penguins similar to those pictured, became internationally known when they coupled and later were given an egg that needed hatching and care, which they successfully did.[243]
Homosexual, bisexual and transgender behaviors occur in a number of other animal species. Such behaviors include sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting[13] and are very widespread: a 1999 review by researcher Bruce Bagemihl shows that homosexual behavior has been observed in close to 1500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, and is well documented for 500 of them.[13][14]
Animal sexual behaviour takes many different forms, even within the same species. The motivations for and implications of these behaviors have yet to be fully understood, since most species have yet to be fully studied.[244] According to Bagemihl, "the animal kingdom [does] it with much greater sexual diversity—including homosexual, bisexual and nonreproductive sex—than the scientific community and society at large have previously been willing to accept."[245]
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/07/2013 at 4:51 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Also: it is a scientific and biological fact that there is homosexual behavior in animals, especally in respect to overpopulation studies. Too many rats in a cage produced a reversal to procreation.
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/07/2013 at 4:47 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Wikipedia: Paul the Apostle
Paul the Apostle (Greek: Παῦλος Paulos), original name Saul of Tarsus (Greek: Σαῦλος Saulos),[4] was a Christian missionary who took the gospel of Christ to the first-century world.[5] He is generally considered one of the most important figures of the Apostolic Age and one of the greatest religious leaders of all time.[6] [7] In the mid-30s to the mid-50s, he founded several churches in Asia Minor and Europe. Being a Jew and a Roman citizen were ideal pedigrees for his ministry to both Jewish and Roman audiences.[5]
A native of Tarsus, the capital city in the Roman province of Cilicia,[2] he wrote that he was "a Hebrew born of Hebrews", a Pharisee,[8] and one who advanced in Judaism beyond many of his peers. He zealously persecuted the early followers of Jesus and violently tried to destroy the newly-forming Christian church. Paul's dramatic conversion experience with the risen Jesus on the road to Damascus dramatically changed the course of his life.[5] He did not know Jesus during his lifetime as did the Twelve Apostles, but he was the first apostle whose only experience with Jesus was after the Resurrection and Ascension.[9]
After his conversion to Christ, he began to preach that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah and the Son of God.[10] His leadership, influence, and legacy led to the formation of communities dominated by Gentile groups that worshiped the Lord, adhered to the "Judaic moral code", but relaxed or abandoned the ritual and dietary teachings of the Law of Moses. He taught that these laws and rituals had either been fulfilled in the life of Christ or were symbolic precursors of Christ, though the exact relationship between Paul the Apostle and Judaism is still disputed. Paul taught of the life and works of Jesus Christ and his teaching of a New Covenant, or "new testament",[11] established through Jesus' death and resurrection.
About half of the New Testament stems from Paul and the people whom he influenced. Thirteen of the 27 books in the New Testament have been attributed to Paul, and approximately half of the Acts of the Apostles deals with Paul’s life and works. However, only 7 of the 13 letters can be accepted as being entirely authentic. The other 6 letters are believed to have come from followers writing in his name, using material from Paul's surviving letters and letters written by him that no longer survive.[6] [12] [5]
Today, his epistles continue to be deeply rooted in the theology, worship, and pastoral life in the Roman and Protestant traditions of the West, as well as the Orthodox traditions of the East.[13] Among the many other apostles and missionaries involved in the spread of the Christian faith,[5] his influence on Christian thought and practice has been characterized as being as "profound as it is pervasive".[13] Augustine of Hippo developed Paul's idea that salvation is based on faith and not "works of the law".[14] Martin Luther's interpretation of Paul's writings heavily influenced Luther's doctrine of sola fide. The Bible does not record Paul's death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acts_of_the_…
Acts of the Apostles
Some believe that through this work, Luke intended to show the Roman Empire that the root of Christianity is within Judaism so that the Christians “may receive the same freedom to practice their faith that the Roman Empire afforded the Jews.”[15] Those who support the view of Luke’s work as political apology generally draw evidence from the facts that Christians are found innocent of committing any political crime[15] (Acts 25:25; 19:37; 19:40) and that Roman officials’ views towards Christians are generally positive. Also, Luke mentions a few Roman officials that believe in Jesus Christ (Acts 10:1-11:18; 13:12). The magistrates even apologize to Paul and Silas for wrongfully putting them in prison (Acts 16:38-39). By painting the Roman-Christian relations in this light, Luke hopes to persuade Rome that Christians are not enemies of the government and should not be looked upon with suspicion or even fear.
Apology on behalf of Rome addressed to the church: Whereas the claim above suggested that Luke was writing to Rome, this view proposes that Luke may be writing to the church in order to convince the saints of his own view that Rome is not a threat to the church.[15] This claim presupposes that early Christians were suspicious of Rome or feared Roman authority as a threat to their faith. Also, supporters of this view would characterize Luke’s portrayal of the Roman Empire as positive because they believe Luke “glosses over negative aspects of the empire and presents imperial power positively.”[15] For example, when Paul is before the council defending himself, Paul says that he is “on trial concerning the hope of the resurrection of the dead” (Acts 23:6). Some believe that this appeal “thereby shows Christian’s of Luke’s day both that their predecessors were innocent before the state and that Paul had no political quarrel with Rome”[15] but rather with the Jews who were accusing him. Other scholars have even said that Luke wrote this apology in order to support Christians who were becoming allies with local Roman officials.[15]
Some scholars believe that the apologetic view of Luke’s work is overemphasized and that it should not be regarded as a “major aim of the Lucan writings.”[14] While Munck believes that purpose of Luke’s work is not that clear-cut and sympathizes with other claims, he believes that Luke’s work can function as an apology only in the sense that it “presents a defense of Christianity and Paul”[17] and may serve to “clarify the position of Christianity within Jewry and within the Roman Empire.”[17] Pervo disagrees that Luke’s work is an apology and even that it could possibly be addressed to Rome because he believes that “Luke and Acts speak to insiders, believers in Jesus.” [18] Freedman believes that Luke is writing an apology but that his goal is “not to defend the Christian movement as such but to defend God’s ways in history.”[16]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostle_Paul
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/07/2013 at 4:35 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Mr. K- Yes, the conversion of the Pharasee Sal to the Apostle can be found in the Book of Acts (of the Apostles after the assention of Christ). While incarsentated, Apostle Paul wrote the Epistles that are for the born again Christian Church. Acts 22: starts his telling of his conversion, Acts 28:17- His trail. As a citizen he had the rights listed below, and if he was harmed by any of the guards, they would receive the same but times two.
Roman citizenship Rights Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Citizenship in ancient Rome was a privileged political and legal status afforded to freeborn individuals with respect to laws, property, and governance.
• The right to have a legal trial (to appear before a proper court and to defend oneself).
• The right to appeal from the decisions of magistrates and to appeal the lower court decisions.
• A Roman citizen could not be tortured or whipped, nor could he receive the death penalty, unless he was found guilty of treason.
• If accused of treason, a Roman citizen had the right to be tried in Rome, and even if sentenced to death, no Roman citizen could be sentenced to die on the cross.
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/07/2013 at 4:30 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
TejonTech, you write, "...typical liberal emotional defense of a position contrary to nature..." According to theologists, that is. Scientists do not find homosexual activity to be "contrary to nature." At one time anything other than missionary position was labeled contrary to nature (even though no animal, other than humans, practice it).
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 05/07/2013 at 1:39 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
gurudori, you wrote, "Not only did Apostle Paul use his Roman Citizenship to have a fair trail when the Jews wanted him excuted for converting to Christianity and blaspheme again OT..." Is this @#$% actually in the Christian Bible?
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 05/07/2013 at 1:22 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Zen...again boring...typical liberal emotional defense of a position contrary to nature...and not true.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/07/2013 at 8:13 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Yeah well I think you've proven you know neither "love" nor "peace", TejonTech. What I read is the vitroil of an isolated and fearful man. It's sad really, because you drive far more people away than you'll ever attract.
Posted by
Zen
on 05/06/2013 at 11:13 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Cliche spins...boring
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/06/2013 at 7:52 PM
Re: “20- and 30-somethings find little hope, hospitality within recent city politics”
What is prophesized in the Bible can't be stopped, even the New World order. Don't you think that maybe God has a backup plan for those who accepted Christ as Lord and Savior (not believing in the Pope, TT) called...... The Hope of the Return of Christ! Haven't you ever read 1 Thessalonians? It's all about how Christ returns FOR the born again believers, then Armageddon & book of Revelations happens, then Christ returns WITH the saints to reclaim earth from Satan, the god of this world, and re-establishes Eden when he got from Adam disobeying Gods commandment not to eat the fruit of knowledge. Bet you didn't know that!
Yeah, that's another one of those books in the NT most don't know of. Romans 5:9-Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from the wrath through him. This gives me much comfort when knowing how that state of the world is in modern times. Something to think about.
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/06/2013 at 5:00 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Ben Broadbent has still failed to engage or respond...not impressed with Ben from this or anything I have heard from his congregation about him. I think all go to hear the gays men's chorus that performs there...I hear they are really good.