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Re: “Colorado voters gambled on pot and TABOR, but will they go for single-payer health care?

Note to Valerie Murphy: what makes you think Medicare is free? Where do you get this idea? There is a monthly premium for Part B and if someone does not have the work history to qualify for Part A they also have to pay a premium for that. On top of that there is an annual deductible and most people also need to purchase a supplemental insurance besides basic Medicare. Then there is Part D and the annual deductible and "donut hole" for drug coverage. Please get your facts correct before you make blanket statements which are totally fictitious.

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Posted by rms on 05/28/2016 at 8:12 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare explained

I'm curious with the absorption of Medicaid and CHP+ how the rate of matching funds from the Fed would be decided. Currently we have a funds matching system with a 50% rate for Medicaid, 100% funded by feds for the Medicaid expansion population through 2016 to be phased down to 90% through 2020 and beyond, and an 88.50% for CHP+. How would the feds determine how much money they are to give to ColoradoCare in place of these programs?

Posted by Rachel Smith on 05/27/2016 at 6:12 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare explained

What idiot but those board & funding provisions in there? Clearly it wasn't someone who gave any thought to wanting this thing to actually pass.

Posted by Hunter Willis on 05/27/2016 at 11:26 AM

Re: “Colorado voters gambled on pot and TABOR, but will they go for single-payer health care?

A lot of BS to wade through here but I'll give it a try...
1- the purchase of private health insurance right now is basically mandatory (unless you're content with dying from a treatable health issue)
2- Colorado care does not outlaw private insurance or paying out-of-pocket or restrict getting care elsewhere if that's what you want to do
3- your only valid point
4- while the Colorado care payroll tax is exempt from TABOR because it's revenues are not technically government funds, it still requires voter approval to rise the tax rate just like TABOR requires (section 9p8, you should read the amendment before posting)  and yes 17% of our GDP is spent on Healthcare but Colorado care does not replace all of this, Medicare, Medicaid and the VA systems in the state would be unchanged and they account for almost half of Healthcare spending
5- your PCP should be giving any referrals you need and they aren't government employees. I'm not sure where you got this "gatekeeper" notion the ammendment says that you'll be free to utilize any doctor licensed in the state.

6-  yes this is VERY business friendly! Do you have any idea how much time and cost goes into providing health coverage for employees?  Every compny in the state negotiating with many different providers every single year?  This will alow them to get out of that mess, and allow businesses in Colorado to focus on what they actually do for their business, it's not a government intrusion into business practices at all in fact it's the exact opposite.  Colorado care yes estimates that city govs will save $177 million and county govs $84 million, including $11 mill for co springs, money that can be better invested in services or returned to tax payers. It's reasonable to expect private business in the state will see similar savings, this would be a very major selling point to businesses looking to expand into the state.

7- since when are illegal immigrants allowed to vote?

7 part two- in most cases this is true because competing providors are much better at providing services.  Our "private" Healthcare system however is anything but a free market. The fact that most have Insurance coverage removes any incentive to save money since the patient doesn't pay directly. Each insurance pool is just a mini socialist Healthcare system except that they must answer to shareholders instead of patients. Also because the majority of us get coverage through our employer we dont even have a choice in which mini socialist Healthcare system we want to join so there isn't even that  competition.  insurance companies don't care about us because we aren't their customers, they sell to employers.  Furthermore Colorado care isn't even a government run system anyway since the legislature has no influence over the elected board of trustees, it's a tax funded publicly owned co-op.

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Posted by the un-Valarie Murphy on 05/27/2016 at 7:51 AM

Re: “ColoradoCare explained

And how would would healthcare providers be reimbursed and at what precentage?

Posted by Bgroovy on 05/27/2016 at 12:06 AM

Re: “Colorado voters gambled on pot and TABOR, but will they go for single-payer health care?

1. This is a MANDATORY tax of $25 BILLION with MANDATORY participation.

2. Every resident including illegals and those who work under the table for cash will get “free” health care. Oh, and forget Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. You will not be allowed to go anywhere without government permission.

3. Expect a huge increase in utilization. Adjusted for age and health, Medicare has a 50% higher utilization rate because it’s all “free.” Where will Colorado get all the doctors? Foreign countries?

4. Affordable? With medical costs running 17% of GDP, there is no way these people will run this scheme for ten percent of incomes. Since they won’t be limited by TABOR, once they get you, they will be able to raise the tax to whatever they want. Expect their cronies to get wealthy.

5 You may be allowed to choose a PCP. You will not be able to see a specialist without your government gatekeeper’s permission. Again, forget any specialized cancer center. That means you will not choose the heart surgeon who cuts you open.

6. Business friendly? Business friendly means keeping the government nose out of business decisions.

7. Every illegal and everyone who has never paid a dime into this mess will be able to vote on who runs it.

7. Government is never efficient and never saves money. Government is all about cronyism. In this case, it is leftist cronies, many from Boulder.
"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism." Kruschev

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Posted by Valarie Murphy on 05/26/2016 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Properties acquired for SDS 13 years ago will be on sale in 2017


Thanks for the update. several of the land parcels without homes need to be added to Corral Bluffs Open Space.

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Posted by What's the Word? on 05/26/2016 at 9:43 AM

Re: “Properties acquired for SDS 13 years ago will be on sale in 2017

Don't you just love paying your CSU bill? CSU loves telling us how much under budget SDS is! CSU must have some very accurate cost forecasters!

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Posted by CapitalistPig on 05/26/2016 at 9:34 AM

Re: “Colorado voters gambled on pot and TABOR, but will they go for single-payer health care?

I personally spent the night in a committee hearing of the house this last session. By the time they took up our bill at 3 in the morning [a tactic used to hope we would leave] I was thoroughly convinced that the legislature is for special interests and wealthy lobbyist. It is a joke for the voice of the commoner. The ballot initiative is all we have left for sensible government for everyone. And it is not easy to get an initiative on the ballot either. Only TABOR was accomplished by a quasi grass roots campain; all other successful campaigns paid for their signatures. Democracy is defined by a majority and I distinctly remember my math teacher, Fr. Krieger, teaching us that anything above 50% is a majority, not 55%. I will work hard against these campaigns so that Coloradans have a seat at the table of our laws.

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Posted by Peter Coulter on 05/26/2016 at 6:34 AM

Re: “Should you vote for ColoradoCare?

Great job Stanley. Your piece was thorough, articulate and chalk full of facts.

Stanley's article shows fully that Coloradocare is well developed and has a very good possibility to improve our health care system. But what struck me most was the opponents opposition.

They don't disagree with the facts instead they ring their hands and worry that their special interest may be hurt. Business MAY leave. Biotech MAY be hurt. You know what they may not. Anyway, we are left to wonder who are these weak kneed owners who will leave the state at the first sign of paying less for health insurance, a fact the chamber always glosses over.

And if we first build a system that covers everyone, saves us billions and shows the rest of the country how practical and thoughtful Coloradans are then I am willing to gamble with biotech's profit margins. Good grief

Coloradocare was designed byColoradans for Coloradans. Check it out at

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Posted by Saliscente on 05/25/2016 at 9:20 PM

Re: “Who's for and against ColoradoCare

I noticed on the (no) are some pretty nicely insured union labels there.

Posted by 1124victor on 05/25/2016 at 8:05 PM
Posted by gyrogearloose on 05/25/2016 at 6:53 PM

Re: “Police committee delivers list of recommendations for how cops investigate brutality

Slowly but surely Colorado law enforcement is being pulled kicking & screaming into the 21st century. A comparison: CSPD & El Paso County Sheriff are where LAPD was in the Rodney King era. Three or four more chiefs/sheriffs from now, several hundred thousand more in excessive force lawsuits, as well as employee workplace harassment cases and possibly a Justice Dept. oversight ruling and civic leaders will realize its cheaper to pay a little more in salaries, and training. Then attract & recruit the best and eliminate the problem officers/deputies.

The Christopher Commission found that the same 5-7% of officers in the LAPD generated 80+% of the complaints. Hire quality personnel, supervise them effectively, and save money. With the further benefit being, those same quality personnel you have hired will advance through the ranks and become the next generation of supervisors, watch commanders, division captains, Chiefs & Sheriffs. Statements of support and platitudes from elected officials has never worked and will never be enough. Does this mean more taxes, for the salaries & improved retirement benefits? Of course. You can have it like it is - marginal or you can have it good & accountable - you decide.

Basic investigation 101: When an officer is a victim, they should never/ever be the investigating/reporting/booking/transporting officer. They should be interviewed like any other victim and give a statement.

Posted by Rottresq on 05/25/2016 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Gardner faces Klingenschmitt in Senate District 12

MAY ALL OF THE BIGOT LIARS BITE THE DUST IN POLITICS- Texan Who Posted Extreme Views Loses Runoff for State Education Post

The East Texas woman who claimed President Obama was a drug-addicted gay prostitute in his youth was defeated in a Republican primary runoff election Tuesday, losing her bid to become one of the top education officials in Texas.…

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Posted by guruD on 05/25/2016 at 11:12 AM

Re: “Should you vote for ColoradoCare?

Yes next question?

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 05/25/2016 at 6:46 AM

Re: “Should you vote for ColoradoCare?

NO. Next question?

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Posted by John Howell on 05/25/2016 at 5:15 AM

Re: “A lot to give in Manitou

Or how about CSU allowh the lot to be used for Incline users and give the money back to the rate payers . Rate payers own CSU which is a community owned utility! Not everything related to Americas Mountain belongs to Manitou.

Posted by incline lover on 05/24/2016 at 9:01 AM

Re: “A lot to give in Manitou

I do not know much about all this but "land swap" seems a strange title as I am unclear what land is being traded and how does a mayor decide on his own what to do with public property? Why is it a trade with Broadmoor and not with the owner of the Broadmoor? Broadmoor is not an incorporated city is it? When one person in city government decides to deal with a billionaire and uses taxpayer holdings as the main item to deal I would have expected an immediate recall vote to commence. Especially since the same person insisted on a vote to raise tax for road repair without asking where the revenue that should have been used had gone to. This "land swap" has "kick back" written all over it, at least the ear marks and missing tax money should get Mister Law and Order's attention immediately. But I don't know anything except I do not care if the whole city were traded for some baseball cards. (Hint to the baseball fan city government that talks "ball park downtown" plans a lot, make sure that they are at least rookie cards of well known players)

For those like myself who want to learn about government but found it complicated here is the best way: Listening to politicians say all of what they are going to do for you and your city does not educate you. However if you watch and see what they do not do then that is precisely what they are actually required and supposed to be doing! End of lesson.

Have they indicated anything about the upcoming road work? Are they straight up about it and saying what a massive project it will be? They cannot just fill holes. miles and miles of roads must be torn up and repaved almost 6000 miles. And done right with proper drainage and banking. What company will do it? They will need 100 companies and a decade to do it. Hopefully employees will all be local but I doubt it...

What a huge mess and the citizens are not up in arms! Amazing......I really hope code enforcement writes no more warnings or tickets for about 20 years, it just would not be right.

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 05/21/2016 at 11:09 PM

Re: “A lot to give in Manitou

Lee Milner makes a great argument on this issue, which has virtually been overlooked. And Jim Bensberg, I hear that Manitou took a stand in favor of the swap (according to Corrine Toll tonight).
Pam Zubeck, if all the council members read your articles, this land swap would be off the table. Thank you for your persistent, dedicated work in wringing the details out of this deal.

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Posted by Linda Hodges on 05/20/2016 at 8:45 PM

Re: “A lot to give in Manitou

Since when, tragically, has common sense had anything whatsoever to do with governmental decisions?

I'm so disillusioned with the way the land swap proposal has unfolded .... it's not acceptable for a city government to be this unresponsive to what the public is telling them.

I know, vote the bums out. But that won't save Strawberry.

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Posted by doonya on 05/20/2016 at 5:29 PM

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