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Re: “The resurgence of the radical left raises questions

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Posted by Mary Jo Meade on 02/03/2017 at 3:26 PM

Re: “El Paso County inmates say new jail contractor serves inadequate food

I seriously doubt that the county contracted for inadequate amounts of inedible food. What I find most interesting is that the bloggers who routinely find evidence of corruption in every government transaction, are not demanding a full accounting of how our tax money is being spent or accusing any county official of receiving kickbacks from the deal. Instead, they are happy to be ripped off, just as long as the prison inmates suffer from the cruel, if not so unusual, punishment.

In another thread in this same issue of the Indy, and on this same blog, is a report of a study conducted in prisons with real inmates that indicates a link between poor diet and violence. Unless you were being sarcastic, you indicated in the comments section that you agreed with that finding, Mr. Tannim, before you wrote your comment for this piece. Somehow, you failed to put the two reports together.

The cost of hiring extra guards to handle violent prisoners far outweighs the cost of a nutritious diet. And, if you are interested in reforming prisoners, providing a good diet is a good start.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/02/2017 at 8:10 PM

Re: “The resurgence of the radical left raises questions

The author did not "equate" anarchists with communists and socialists. He merely pointed out that groups who self-identified as anarchists, communists, and socialists, were working together. Apparently, the theoretical differences between these groups does not matter as much to them as it does to you, Mr. Tannim.

Furthermore, the original Anarchists (with a capital 'A') constituted a movement whose main political tactic was to assassinate politicians, often using bombs to take out as many as possible. They were hooligans and proud of it, and I think the Communists are offended that you did not call them hooligans as well.

Finally, classic Anarchists, Communists, and Socialists all have this in common: they all agree that progressive change can only come from the Working Class defeating the Ruling Class and dismantling the capitalist system. Communists also believe that their political system will lead eventually to a "withering away of the state." In other words, their ultimate goal is identical with the Anarchists' goal. They just think it cannot be forced or done immediately, but will take time.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/02/2017 at 4:01 PM

Re: “Sheriff's Office's "fight club" results, and two inmates deaths

Fight Club? Reynolds was found unresponsive by another inmate (not sure any other inmates had something to with it considering Reynolds child abuse charge) the other was being transported back to jail from the hospital when the officer noticed he was in distress. Not sure how these two incidents correlate to a couple deputy's vying for the most "use of force" incidents? In typical DNC-style news stories, its blame now ask questions (i.e. discover the facts) later.

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Posted by Silky Johnson on 02/02/2017 at 11:18 AM

Re: “The resurgence of the radical left raises questions

A debate is a much better way to handle this than a lecture and a protest.

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Posted by UCanSeeClearlyNow on 02/02/2017 at 10:55 AM

Re: “Studies show link between behavior and diet

Well, there is a definite link between foods and behavior--just look at excitotoxins.

Maybe they ought to lace the inmate food with Valium--kinda hard to be violent when you're asleep all the time...

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Posted by Tannim on 02/02/2017 at 10:47 AM

Re: “El Paso County inmates say new jail contractor serves inadequate food

They're inmates, which means that they are not deserving of what they consider to be "good food". If they wanted good food, they they shouldn't have landed their butts in jail in the first place.

They ought to be lucky that they aren't getting Hawkeye Pierce's "river of liver and ocean of fish." Or Soylent Green.

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Posted by Tannim on 02/02/2017 at 10:46 AM

Re: “El Paso County inmates say new jail contractor serves inadequate food

Boohoo. Supposed to be jail. A reminder that you dont want to come back. Sheriff Elder is running his agency efficiently despite constant cuts to law enforcement. You should be pleased with his ability to work within a tight budget and saving law abiding tax payers money.

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Posted by romer1 on 02/02/2017 at 8:24 AM

Re: “The resurgence of the radical left raises questions

Milo Yiannopoulos Speech At Berkeley Canceled Amid Violent Protests
The Berkeley College Republicans had invited the Breitbart editor and notorious Twitter troll to campus to speak.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/milo-y…

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Posted by guruD on 02/02/2017 at 7:16 AM

Re: “Sheriff's Office's "fight club" results, and two inmates deaths

Yep! Sure did! And, like it or not, I still stand beside my post!

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Posted by Asher777 on 02/01/2017 at 1:06 PM

Re: “El Paso County inmates say new jail contractor serves inadequate food

Asher, is it your job to blow every CSIndy story out of proportion? If you're not Sheriff Maketa with a different user name you might actually have what it takes to become Chief Editor at the Independent; since they enjoy blowing everything out of context (proportion, i.e. Trump).

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Posted by Silky Johnson on 02/01/2017 at 12:22 PM

Re: “Sheriff's Office's "fight club" results, and two inmates deaths

Asher did you read the article?

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Posted by Silky Johnson on 02/01/2017 at 12:18 PM

Re: “El Paso County inmates say new jail contractor serves inadequate food

Sorry, but this story reads as sour grapes from Aramark over losing their long-term deal. It would be wise to keep the prison population well-fed in order to reduce their overall angst, but you shouldn't lose sight of the fact that this is a jail and not a resort.

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Posted by ConcernedCitizen on 02/01/2017 at 12:08 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs attorney admits converting clients' money to his own use

This is the second big story involving lawyers (see past articles on Terry Malcom). It seems like the profession as whole and state legislatures needs to implement some rules that prohibit lawyers from taking custody of client money. Really they should not have to touch client money.

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Posted by Greg Yost on 02/01/2017 at 11:59 AM

Re: “Sheriff's Office's "fight club" results, and two inmates deaths

Given the gravity and seriousness of this alleged "Fight Club," anyone in their right-mind would question why Elder kept this investigation in-house. I'm confident that most would agree, given the severity, the investigation should have been given to an outside agency for an impartial and objective investigation to reveal the real truth, not some Elder cover-up! Investigations of this nature, to include those involving a death of an inmate, MUST and SHOULD be investigated by an outside agency. Period!

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Posted by Asher777 on 02/01/2017 at 10:24 AM

Re: “El Paso County inmates say new jail contractor serves inadequate food

It has become pretty clear since Elder took office in 2015, that Sheriff Elder doesnt care about the safety of our deputies and the support staff working the floors at CJC. He doesnt care about the Patrol deputies on the streets risking their lives every day. He doesnt even care about the inmates serving time in our correctional facility. It is a disgrace that he and Command Staff are willingly standing by and allowing this to happen. What they are doing DOES NOT define leadership. It is a shame that no matter how many complaints are made or proof is shown, the so-called leadership of El Paso County DOES NOTHING to correct it. All they do is play their blame games, resort to their diversion tactics, or just blatantly ignore the problem hoping it will go away. This is another reason why so many dont stand up and say something. They know if they do, they will be black listed and their pleas will go unanswered.

El Paso County Government, to include the Sheriffs Office, has become a laughing stock in this community. They turn a blind eye to Elder's corruption, his discrimination against women, the promotion of sexual harassment in the workplace, the support of sexual predators (i.e. Commander Rob King and Lt. Bill Huffor), the engagement in financial impropriety, the list goes on. And now as taxpayers, employees of El Paso County, and members of this community we get to keep adding to that list, but see our Commissioners doing nothing about it. When will it end? Does something so bad have to happen before our Commissioners stand up and hold Sheriff Elder accountable? We have inmates that are deliberately being malnourished, deputies being put in unsafe and deplorable conditions, but yet Elder sits up in his Ivory Tower just laughing. Does someone need to die or be beaten so badly as a result for someone to actually stand up and defend us?

It is worth noting that what they have done with the food contract and taxpayer General Fund and 1A money that is being used to pay for it is blatant financial malfeasance and nonfeasance by an Elected Official (or in other words, financial wrongdoing and misconduct, but also the failure to perform an official duty). Lets not forget that simple procurement policies have been violated as well.

We see it every day! When will it end? When will the Commissioners "grow some balls" and hold Elder and his clan of cronies accountable?

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Posted by Asher777 on 02/01/2017 at 9:59 AM

Re: “The resurgence of the radical left raises questions

Anarchist punks hijack every peaceful protest and help the fascist PR campaign against reason and truth.

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Posted by Bill Burns on 02/01/2017 at 9:27 AM

Re: “Suppression is the goal of many 'free speech zones'

The entire world is a free speech zone, but you have to MAKE it so and defend it every day because the fascist powers hate thought and reason and truth.

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Posted by Bill Burns on 02/01/2017 at 9:23 AM

Re: “The resurgence of the radical left raises questions

There is a simple, non-violent tactic that works well in such situations. Instead of dressing in black and trying to block the entrance, dress casually and show up early to get a seat in the auditorium. Wait patiently for the program to begin. When the fascist walks up to the podium and opens his mouth, we rise to our feet, hollering anti-fascist slogans at the top of our lungs, and walk out on him.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 02/01/2017 at 9:05 AM

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