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Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

In the Gazette editorial today, we are told that Martin is the reason there are potholes in COS.

Also today, an article on the front page tells of a city owned drainage ditch causing a landslide in Rockrimmon. The city, despite repeated requests by the homeowners, did not secure the ditch because there was no money in the budget. And yet Martin and other City Leaders are comfortable with spending $200M of sales tax revenue to build a stadium and millions more to upgrade access roads and build a parking structure and bridge to ATB park.

Potholes. Drainage ditches. Washed out roads. Fixing these is a top priority that will take years to accomplish. City Leaders who cared about COS and its citizens would use the sales tax they will siphon off to build the stadium to fix these problems. In fact, City Leaders should abandon their plans to build the stadium. No stadium. Now. And never.

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Posted by curious on 05/13/2015 at 10:43 PM

Re: “Let the electoral games overlap

How can this Gordon James Klingenschmitt claim a state lawmaker—whether a conservative Republican like Bob Gardner or anyone else—could "co-sponsor Obamacare" in the General Assembly? Does he think voters are stupid? Neither party had anything to do with enacting that federal law. It was Congress' doing. Klingenschmitt accuses Gardner of a "phony denial," but given Klingenschmitt's own flat-out fallacy, he sounds like the phony to me. Voters are sick and tired of that kind of fast and loose campaign rhetoric. I'm going to guess some BIG MONEY and SLICK CONSULTANTS out of Washington are behind Klingenschmitt's early use of the big lie.

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Posted by Sandy Vernon on 05/13/2015 at 5:07 PM

Re: “Let the electoral games overlap

Stan, I wasn't familiar with Klingenschnitzel's academic record other than that his alma mater really is the former Christian Broadcasting Network University. Back when he first made the news and I couldn't get enough of his loopiness, I did poke around on the Web but couldn't get past his uproarious YouTube "debate" with the Owensboro Baptist nut over whether God actually hates gays or just wants guys like Dr. "Chaps" to exorcise them. Not making THAT up, either. Check it out; this guy's a hoot:

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Posted by Ion Cscityhall on 05/13/2015 at 3:30 PM

Re: “Let the electoral games overlap

Speaking of fact checking, what WAS that issue with Corporal Kingerschnitzel's "PhD"? Maybe some of his other purported degrees, too? And to think that, in the first place, it was issued by a fringe diploma mill like "Regent University" (formerly the "Christian Broadcasting Network University"—not making that up).

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Posted by Stan Sloothe on 05/13/2015 at 3:21 PM

Re: “Testing compromise passes, Maketa-related payouts considered, more

Testing deal reached? So what does prohibit assigning an accreditation rating (based on test scores) to school districts actually mean? Are districts not going to be evaluated at all this year?

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Posted by Gordon Reichal on 05/13/2015 at 2:58 PM

Re: “Let the electoral games overlap

Fact check on Bob's dishonest statement: "I've opposed Obamacare from the very beginning and continue to do so." No, actually Bob Gardner was the only Republican to co-sponsor Obamacare with 32 Democrats and put it forever into Colorado law, HB13-1266, proof document posted at gordonforcolorado dot com. Bob publicly admitted my document was accurate, so now he contradicts his own public admission with a phony denial. If he's dishonest about his record now, how can he be trusted in the future?

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Posted by Gordon James Klingenschmitt on 05/13/2015 at 2:51 PM

Re: “A road home

Hi, Mrs. Austin-MacKenzie:

Thanks for your comment, and for reading our story. To get further questions answered about how the trust operates, I’d suggest contacting the organization directly at 447-9300 or

Kirk Woundy

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Posted by Kirk Woundy on 05/12/2015 at 1:54 PM

Re: “Barrier method

only two kinds of people vote for religious freak republicans... rich people and religious freak idiots.

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Posted by happyfew on 05/12/2015 at 11:10 AM

Re: “A road home

Hello, Ms. Akens. In the interest and spirit of journalistic integrity and, if possible, please provide a follow up response to my following questions:

When a Land Trust homeowner decides to sell their selling the home "to another eligible buyer" the ONLY requirement of being able to sell the home? Respectfully, I would like to see this piece of journalism "dig a little deeper" and investigate, for the sake of potential program participants and truth, just what are the precise terms, financial and otherwise, that are stipulated for a RMC Land Trust "homeowner" to sell what is described as THEIR real-estate (property)?

Thank you kindly,
Mrs. Angel Austin-MacKenzie

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Posted by AMACk_74 on 05/11/2015 at 8:48 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

Jan Martin spent 8 years on Council and has NOTHING to show for it. She was vocal about abuses of the Mayor and the City Attorney in the new form of government, but when it mattered, she voted against doing anything about it in order to not be "divisive."

As chair of the committee in charge of handing over millions of taxpayer dollars per year to the Conventions and Visitors Bureau, she promised for years to demand some sort of accountability to the CVB, but they still get a free pass and still get the corporate welfare.

She has lambasted the Regional Business Alliance for getting involved in political issues (rightly so), but when it came time to funding them at their full requested amount, she was there with a yes vote every time.

She was also there with a yes vote for a half-a-billion dollar salary for the Utilities CEO and favored a no-compete contract to bilk CSU ratepayers for a solar subsidy because she "liked" the young professional who ran the company who would receive the dollars.

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 05/11/2015 at 3:14 PM

Re: “Shooting blanks

"Some schools, especially charters and alternative schools, had alarmingly high rates of exemptions."

Some schools that aren't convenient dropoff points and require careful effort and consideration for your child's future. Hmmmmm.

Posted by Optional Entry on 05/11/2015 at 12:59 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

A moratorium of 4 years, or 6 or 8 years, would put a welcome roadblock in the way of career politicians. A moratorium would prevent careerists from acquiring power and would open the doors for new candidates with new ideas. Entrenched career politicians, beholden to their financial backers and in a position to grant favors using public tax money, are a deterrent to government by the people.

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Posted by curious on 05/11/2015 at 12:08 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

Oh Staci6, I almost "liked" your post, but then the stinger at the end just ruined it for me. Please don't taint your praise with pettiness.

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Posted by Mia715 on 05/11/2015 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Pinned Down

I was also at Cleo Wallace ..back in the 80's. I was a runaway child, I ran away from an abusive counselor at the time talked me into choosing this place ( I had a choice between this place and a workforce type place..I had chosen the workforce place, but was told I would like this place better) in the end I was at Cleo Wallace. I was already a shy child, I had problems communicating with people, upon arrival they put me on something called social isolation (because of my history of running away) I had no problem with being isolated as I was very shy anyway..but a part of the social isolation was that I had to sit in a hard chair facing a wall 8 hours out of my day insure I was not talking to anyone.. I could leave the chair to eat, and to join group where I could speak to others. If anyone walked by and talked to me while I was in this chair, this was seen as an aggressive act in my treatment, my chair would be taken from me, and I would have to sit on the floor.. if I tried to talk to the staff to tell them I didnt try to talk..I was thrown to the several adults climbing on top of me. The first time I fought back, as I felt I couldnt breath. The next two times I went limp right away so they would stop. There was a male staff member who would press himself into me..I could tell he was erect..he would also come into my room at night when he worked. I finally ran away from there during a medical appointment. I was one fo the lucky ones to get away. They did keep all of my personal items.. but it was worth the trade off..

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Posted by soso on 05/10/2015 at 10:56 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

"Regarding your characterization of Indy content..." I wrote of being "bombarded" and you interpret that as "Indy content!" It was meant to refer to all of the information from all sources. I'm sorry if it confused you. I feel I must add for your benefit that I was only referring to political information. Hope this helps.

Note I did not write "too much news" because I never intended my observation to be limited to the news media, yet you interpreted the word "information" to be restricted not only to the news media, but specifically to the Indy!

How could my words refer only to the Indy? I wrote about someone who would "likely vacillate between the two candidates many times before the election." You seem to think I am such a fool as to believe someone would favor Suthers many times before the election based solely on reporting by the Indy!

I certainly did not intend to exclude the Indy, but I meant to include all political discussion, including the smarmy words being bandied back and forth right here in this blog.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/09/2015 at 4:30 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

I see you are more interested in playing rhetorical games than arriving at the truth, PacksA9. "So what your saying is, it is accepted practice for Indy reporters to skip any research needed..." I never said any such thing. I did say the Indy expects its readers to exercise a modicum of intelligence.

The article is about Suthers' fund-raising, not his partying, and it is so well researched that the only "flaw" you could find was this single, insignificant sentence. You were the one who raised it to prominence with your faux indignation merely to smear the Indy.

Now, allow me to borrow from your bag of tricks and read something into your words that you did not intend. Perhaps your indignation is genuine, not fake. Obviously, the reason you are raising such a fuss is you are embarrassed by your own candidate's extravagance and ashamed to see it exposed.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/09/2015 at 4:04 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

Lathen got 11% in a low turnout election. With moderate turnout, she most likely would have received no more than 9%. Voters wisely turned down a 3rd term option for County Commissioners. Her option is to run for another county position. A citizen initiative calling for a four year moratorium before a county elected official can run for another office would help ease the gene pool degredation that comes from so many limited-vision types holding one county office after another.

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Posted by Staci6 on 05/09/2015 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

There could be a CEO job paying $100K plus perks that Lathen needs and can have when the visionary and revitalizing and revolutionary concrete and asphalt $200M downtown stadium is built. Despite being visionary, the proposed stadium will look just like all the other 200 stadiums located in cities big and small across America. Money losing stadiums are a dime a dozen, but our money losing stadium will cost $200M. Lathen, the ex-county commissioner and now defeated mayorial candidate - who came in last with a miniscule 11% of the vote - has been a major promoter of the stadium from the beginning. Perhaps her grandstanding support for building the stadium using $200M of the citizens sales tax revenue without a public vote was a factor in her defeat. Her name recognition, her self-professed faux stance as a solid fiscal conservative and defender of the people's rights (except when it comes to voting on the stadium), the friendly support of the Gazette, which published numerous of her op eds over the years, and being good friends with Important People in High Places, aka City Leaders, as well as being a City Leader herself didn't get her back on the public dole. I too hope Lathen's political career is dead in the water.

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Posted by curious on 05/09/2015 at 12:36 AM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

Mr Packs a Gun

Jan Martin does not need a job. She is a third generation native coming from a line of dedicated citizens who have served at the state level and at the city level for decades. She ran for office out of concern over the direction the city was headed - worked at a basic volunteer-to low income wage for eight years to do her best to improve the community.

She has had but one job in politics - the same job for eight years. She has not jumped from elected position to elected position as many of the local politicians - serving on one position for eight years does not exactly fit the description of a 'career politician'

When not actively performing in her role as an elected official, in the only elected position she has ever had - she was tirelessly, on her own time, working with a large number of civic organizations for the betterment of the community.

City government has been very fortunate to have had a long string of very competent and dedicated people in office. The 'career politicians' and bored housewives continually running for office: that is over at county government.

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Posted by Staci6 on 05/08/2015 at 7:46 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

MrK- As a newcomer to the Indy, I will defer to your deep knowledge and experience regarding the inner workings of their operation.

So what your saying is, it is accepted practice for Indy reporters to skip any research needed to source meaningful content, then scramble at the deadline to find 'miscellaneous filler' to achieve a preset number of words? Lol, I remember those pesky 6th grade book reports, too. I guess some things never change.

Regarding your characterization of Indy content as 'too much information of too little value", does that apply to the entire publication or just the hard news section?

Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep that in mind as I comment on future stories.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/08/2015 at 1:44 PM

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