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Re: “Lamborn won't debate, sheriff term limits go to ballot, UCCS keeps expanding, and more

News opportunity for the Independent:

So the local rag, "Gazette" has now gotten greedy. If you don't pay them you cannot read more than just a few articles per month.

The Independent ought to step up its coverage of just local news.

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Posted by billd on 09/15/2014 at 4:25 AM

Re: “Wild places suffer from sameness

how about this quit charging money and pushing everybody around?

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Posted by rocket625 on 09/14/2014 at 3:30 PM

Re: “Wild places suffer from sameness

Heading to a national park? Like thrillers? Take this with you.

Posted by Sean Smith on 09/10/2014 at 2:56 PM

Re: “That's some strain

MileHi: I'm quite sure that Charlotte Figi and her family, and many others like them, absolutely don't think the Stanley's are any kind of scum. Sounds like your own meds aren't working quite as well as they could/should... perhaps you need to up the dosage and chill out!

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Posted by COnative59 on 09/10/2014 at 12:13 PM

Re: “That's some strain

Mr. Mile high Why? They found something that helps some people and are using it to do exactly that. Theres costs involved as with all cures or devices that help folk. You state in your moniker that your a patient so Im sure your meds cost you my heart meds sure ant free. Does that mean the makers of my meds are scum? I dont think so they saved my fat ass a few years ago. Maybe its because they are getting the press and grant money thats got you so upset. I personally think its great that pot is finally getting some in the medical science's to take notice to some of its benefit and hope it continues. Now take a look see at all the Medical pot shops all over the country there all profiting off the sick so are the Hospitals, pharm. companies, Doctors, Nursing homes as well as the device companies. Think of where would be with out them. That is a foolish comment you posted.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 09/10/2014 at 10:59 AM

Re: “Collecting delinquent child support a deadbeat effort in El Paso County

Well they sure aren't slacking when it comes to my case they've raped me every chance they've gotten

Posted by Josh Brody on 09/08/2014 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Lathen, Suthers start mayoral race

Where's that taxi driver when you need him?

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Posted by UCanSeeClearlyNow on 09/07/2014 at 3:17 PM

Re: “This could leave a mark

Must be something in the water!

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Posted by Ronald E Griffey on 09/06/2014 at 9:37 AM

Re: “This could leave a mark

one sure way to make sure this doesnt happen folks...VOTE!!

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Posted by Darrell Maxwell on 09/05/2014 at 10:48 AM

Re: “See him run

How Should Christians Respond to Vicky Beeching? Like Jesus Taught Us (the Fruits Test)
Posted: 08/28/2014 H. Adam Ackley, Ph.D University professor, author, ordained minister

Evangelical Christian pundits are up in arms over the coming out of a popular writer and performer of Christian worship songs, Vicky Beeching, a British writer of Christian devotional songs, theologian and media commentator. Many conservative Christians who once sang along with her as they worshipped God together in Christian community now attack and revile her. Others are simply confused, having found her devotional songs to inspire them in their praise of God for many years. One Christian publication headlined a recent story on her fellow worshippers' struggle over her public announcement that she is a lesbian, "How Should We Respond to Vicky Beeching?" Those who previously were moved to worship by her music are reported to be asking themselves, "How could she do this to us?"

As a Christian who identifies LGBTQ, I've had to grapple with this question myself for decades. I've wrestled with it professionally as an academic theologian who has studied the scriptures both in the original languages and in multiple translations as well as the history of their interpretation cross-culturally and more recently as a pastor whose service is mainly in LGBTQ communities, not just privately but with countless others over the years (as a pastor, brother in Christ, and teacher). However, we are fortunate that the answer is simple and does not require knowledge of biblical languages or cultures nor a doctoral degree in theology. Jesus Himself gave Christians a direct and clear answer as to how Christians are to respond when confused by the actions, words, or identity of another Christian in the Sermon on the Mount.
"You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them" (Mt 7.16-20).

So what do Christians do with Vicky Beeching, who leads powerful worship experiences in the Christian community that inspire many to deeper connection to God? Applying what Christians sometimes called the "fruits test" of Jesus, it's simple: If you liked her music ministry and witness when you didn't happen to know she was gay, then you noticed her good spiritual fruits. Nothing has changed except your former unawareness of the gender of the person she loves, which really has nothing to do with your ability to connect with God through the spiritual gift of leading worship that God has clearly given her. The fruit is good, so the tree is good. She hasn't actually done anything -- let alone "to you." She is simply as God requires being honest, not bearing false witness. Coming out isn't about suddenly "becoming gay" -- it's about a change in others' awareness that you always have been gay. It doesn't change the fruits she has born and will continue to bear in ministry, which are gifts of the Spirit. The fruit (her songs, her worship) hasn't changed: It's still good. And the tree is still good, too.
Like Vicky Beeching, all the gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender Christians continue to bear spiritual fruit in ministries of all kinds all over the world, whether they are closeted or "out," showing us that God gives good spiritual gifts to whomever God wills. Gay Christians and allies will be celebrating Vicky Beeching's spiritual gifts at GCN 2015 in Portland this coming January, the annual meeting of the Gay Christian Network. A bad tree cannot bear good fruit, Jesus tells us. If Christians are willing to be guided by the words and example of Jesus in this matter, it's time to stop cutting good trees (gay Christians) and casting them into the fire and to join gay Christians and allies in celebrating the good gifts of those whom God has blessed with them, regardless of gender identity and sexual orientation.

Follow H. Adam Ackley, Ph.D. on Twitter:…

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Posted by guruD on 09/05/2014 at 8:18 AM

Re: “The Godfather exposed

Well put, Bryce, about Colorado Springs sunshine management. Our BoCC closes their doors and their attorney claims 'no decisions were made'. We don't know what these politicians discuss. Some non career politicians in Pueblo should know better than to meeting behind the curtain for strategy.

Posted by TruB on 09/05/2014 at 7:37 AM

Re: “Lathen, Suthers start mayoral race

The storm water taskforce deciding to collect a fee and create a fund required leadership?
And Latham isn't pro gun she is like Terry Maketa and pro political pandering. Suthers is against gay marriage and hasn't made sure Dan May is protecting El Paso County in these investigations.

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Posted by TruB on 09/05/2014 at 7:21 AM

Re: “Lathen, Suthers start mayoral race

What is known about Lathen - revealed by her strong advocacy for building a downtown stadium - is that she is not a fiscal conservative. She, along with other City Leaders, is going to get the stadium built and make us pay for it. To Lathen, it's none of our business and what we think about it is irrelevant. To promote building a stadium for tourists and think that will result in year-round economic prosperity is delusional. Millions of dollars of future sales tax revenue will go to paying the debt to build the stadium, dollars that will be unavailable to spend on essential city/county services. What then? Obviously, taxes will have to be raised. Also, based on Lathen's support of the stadium, she will likely be susceptible to other hairbrained visionary schemes concocted by City Leaders and "experts". Knowing what needs doing to attract businesses and jobs requires expertise Lathen does not possess.

An ordinance will soon be presented to the council that will give the citizens the right to vote on the stadium component of C4C. If you want your voice to be heard at the ballot box, email city council members at and tell them to vote for the ordinance.

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Posted by curious on 09/04/2014 at 4:13 PM

Re: “Local NAACP courts controversy

no you are not telling the truth. You are a radical wanting to defund public education and have vouchers for religious extremist schools ran by the likes of Klingenschmitt the exorcist. the paid members of NAACP said no and the education chair tabled it until the pros and cons could both be presented by non candidates. Tell the truth!!

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Posted by carolyncathey on 09/04/2014 at 2:40 AM

Re: “See him run

LET'S TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE US SUPREME COURT- Louisiana Gay Marriage Ban Upheld By Federal Judge Posted: 09/03/2014 12:51 pm

Feldman noted that his was the only federal court to uphold a gay marriage ban since the Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act last year.

The court "hesitates with the notion that this state's choice could only be inspired by hate and intolerance," the judge wrote, holding that Louisiana "has a legitimate interest ... whether obsolete in the opinion of some, or not, in the opinion of others ... in linking children to an intact family formed by their two biological parents."…

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Posted by guruD on 09/03/2014 at 2:48 PM

Re: “This could leave a mark

He'ill be elected as he has an R behind his name and the usual homophobic lines. Like Ted Cruz, he's a toxic type who knows what plays in Peoria and throws out a steady stream of raw meat to feed the fears and hates of the sheeple. He knows once he has people angry and/or afraid that he can control their votes and money.

The city will remain the national laughing stock, infrastructure will keep crumbling, industry will avoid our city, and preppers will buy more guns and ammo for an apocalypse they're bringing on us all every time they vote for one of these mouthy pied pipers.

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Posted by OldCrank on 09/03/2014 at 1:53 PM

Re: “This could leave a mark

religious freaks on one side, gun worshipping rednecks on the other side...

the only question is how many rational moderate people reside in the center??

go forward or continue to be the laughing stock of the country... vote and at least you have made a choice.

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Posted by happyfew on 09/03/2014 at 12:28 PM

Re: “Local NAACP courts controversy

Thank you for your comments. I won't shut up as I am telling the truth.

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Posted by Theresa Null on 09/03/2014 at 11:57 AM

Re: “Local NAACP courts controversy

and again...supporting the NAACP mission means you understand that in 1860 the organization was formed after SCOTUS gave us PLessy VS Ferguson or better known as Separate but Equal which dealt with education equality.We are still fighting for equality in education so that a poor child in Mississippi gets the same math and English education as a rich kid in the Broadmoor, and here comes those kind white people saying the government shouldn't intrude. I think I heard a resounding "thanks but no thanks" from the NAACP members to your "no solution" program. Been there, done that, still living Brown VS Board of Education.

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Posted by carolyncathey on 09/03/2014 at 11:45 AM

Re: “Local NAACP courts controversy

no, Ms. Null you again are trying to re-write history. The members of the local NAACP chapter were not sent the usual email, informing everyone of a special speaker or forum. So, it seems only a select group was notified. Then the tea party whackos gave out a flier with all the whacko buzz words about common core educational standards..."government intrusion" "no local control" " Home Schoolers beware." Rosemary Harris Lytle is the president of the regional NAACP and would therefore have every right to help the Vice Chair who was caught between a rock and group of idiots trying to run the meeting. And Peggy LittleTON is a member of Oath Keepers, went to the Cliven Bundy rescue meeting in Nevada with asshat Maketa, and supports that knucklehead in Ferguson who says he will shoot everyone because he is the last line of defense and obeys only laws he likes. Tell the truth or shut up.

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Posted by carolyncathey on 09/03/2014 at 11:40 AM

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