We believe in action and reaction. Laws of physics and business.
Poke the bear (FEDS), and the bear will come. Action reaction. It is proven in daily news briefs.
This is not fear. It is reality. Protect A20 - VOTE NO on A64.
A20 is the crown jewel of medical marijuana in America and had ended prohibition in more ways than any other measure in the last 80 years in the USA.
A20 works. A64 is a great idea of lobbyist and lawyers, but it could be the beginning of the end of A20 and force a federal crackdown on ALL marijuana in Colorado.
Don't believe me...just read.
Protect A20 and Colorado - Vote NO on A64
>>The person posting (blah, blah, blah)... in Colorado pay the same price California dispensaries are paying today.
Colorado is already paying the price, silly. That's the point.
You read but don't understand. Sad. Maybe if you call caregivers and centers greedy cowards, we can all laugh again. : )
>>A64 does not affect medical marijuana in Colorado. A64 does not change A20. Please read the amendment.
FACT: The crackdown in Cali and Colorado came after lobbyist started 'poking the bear' with A64 and Prop 19.
A20 is the only protection Colorado has that has proven effective.
>>People like GoGreen are advocating to continue prohibition
A20 for all practical purposes ended prohibition in more ways than ANY OTHER effort in the last 80 years.
>>in order to protect the MMJ industry's profits.
Profits? Oh yes, we're all millionaires. That's why most centers are run by the owners. They are making so much money they just can't take a day off. You really are funny. :)
>>Patients have the most to gain from A64.
A64 is the greatest threat to A20 and patients. More even then the FEDS.
A20 has protected patients for over 12 years.
A64 will force the feds to react. It's what they do.
>>but it is very expensive to buy due to the risks involved in the black market.
A64 is an open door to the black market. A64 is the black market.
>>Dispensaries have been taking advantage of the hyper-inflated price markup to gouge patients.
'hyper-inflated?' you almost sounded smart...almost.
'gouging?" silly, almost every center I know GIVES patients meds with almost every purchase. You really are funny. : ))
Thanks to A20, centers, patients and caregivers - COLORADO HAS THE LOWEST PRICES FOR MARIJUANA in the USA. The price has dropped from over $500 an ounce in 2009 to as low as $150 at centers and even less with some caregivers.
>>Currently, dispensaries are gouging patients because the only other choice is the black market.
Okay, no stop. We can hardly stop laughing.
Where are meds better and less? The center? or the black market?
The answer is easy - at your locally licensed, safe and respectable MMJ Center.
>>With A64, the patients have the most to gain.
You seem very Karl Rovian. Say something over and over at it will be true.
Not the case, funny man. With A64 patients have everything to lose.
>The opposition to 64 is not about protecting patients.
A20 centers, caregivers and growers are the only thing protecting patients.
Where were you when it came time to step up, be counted and risk everything to provide marijuana to patients?
A64 is a loaded gun pointed at the crown jewel of Colorado's MMJ model.
>It is about protecting profit. Patients have nothing to fear, and everything to gain.
A20 and Colorado lead the world in MMJ development and research. We may even be finding cures for cancer. It's truly historic and amazing.
I work with a charity that DONATES very expensive cann oils to cancer patients in dire need.
Key word, charity. Non-profit. No money. No greed. Just amazing research and life saving work. But hey, go ahead - call me greedy and I'll laugh it off. : )
>Adults will be able to produce reasonable amounts for person use.
Adults already do. It's called Amendment 20.
>It will provide a larger selection and cheaper prices for patients.
Already rebuffed that (over and over again.)
>The only people who stand to lose are the people profiting from the current black market; people like the ones GoGreen is fighting for.
Every time you say 'black market' the whole office staff laughs. : )
We are so far from the black market, silly.
>They do not care about the patients,
No, we just get up every day, work 50+ hours a week, protect amendment 20, donate money and start over each week.
A20 is the only thing that has proven results. It is also a very fragile and brilliant model for the rest of America.
>Everyone wins expect people profiting from the current black market.
You said 'black market' again. : )
>Everyone benefits from A64.
The only one that benefits will be the black market when the FEDs come and the Supreme Courts comes after A64 and A20.
The black market may be all that you have left...
>The current dispensary prices are inflated because the only other option is the black market. When patients have the choice between the lower prices and larger selection at the public store, then the dispensaries will no longer be able to gouge patients.
Price gouging? Centers? Dude, you have no idea. Sad but true.
What was the price of MMJ before the boom of 2009? Over $500 an ounce in many parts of the State.
Today, because of A20, patients, caregivers and centers that price has dropped to as low as $150 for top shelf Colorado Proud bud in many centers.
A20 works. Protect it - VOTE NO on A64
>Patents will have larger selection and cheaper prices if A64 passes.
For a person that claim to live in Colorado, you certainly know little about selection, market prices and development.
The price of marijuana only declined after A20 and patients and centers flourished. In less than 36 months, the price has gone from $70 an 1/8th to less than $20 at many store.
The price of marijuana declinded because of A20, patients, caregivers and centers. It's just a market reality.
Selection? Do you really live in Colorado? I know one center that has over 75 strains in just one store.
Indeed, it has been the MMJ industry, growers, caregivers and owners that have advanced the studies of higher quality marijuana than has ever been tested. New labs, non-profit and research companies have developed in Colorado to support this work. It's amazing, really. Colorado now leads the world in medical marijuana development. No other State or nation even comes close.
Remember what it was like before MMJ? No selection. High prices. Dangerous in countless ways.
A20 has changed all of that. A64 is a fine idea in a perfect world. But that is not the case.
A64 may pose be the greatest threat to Colorado'd MMJ industry we've seen in over 12 years.
Protect A20 _ Vote NO on A64
>Amendment 64 does not affect medical marijuana. It does not affect A20.
To say that A64 has no effect on MMJ is like saying rain falling in the Rockies will have no effect on the Colorado river.
>Patients will have all the same rights after A64.
I believe in action reaction. Laws of physics and business. Poke the bear (FEDS), and the bear will come. Action reaction. It is proven in daily news briefs.
A20 is the crown jewel of medical marijuana and attitude of American's and prohibition. A20 works. A64 is a great idea of lobbyist and lawyers, but it could be the beginning of the end of A20 and force a federal crackdown.
>Do not buy into the irrational fear campaign.
See links above. Nothing irrational about reality.
>Patients have a lot to gain from A64. Dispensaries are trying to scare patients in order to protect profits. Patients have more to gain from A64 than just about anyone.
A64 could force the FEDS to end A64 and A20 in one easy sweep. Hesk, all they need is a stamp and a letter to a landlord to do it.
A64 puts at risk everything patients, growers, caregivers and city councils have fought for in the last 12 years.
Anyone that has a casual understanding of the Supreme Court and Federal law knows that A64 does not protect anyone - it simply pokes the bear.
Protect A20 Colorado Patients Caregivers and Growers | Vote NO on A64
The person posting below, GoGreen, likes to use California as an example to spread irrational fear and hyperbole to patients. The medical marijuana industry in California put a lot of money and resources into defeating Prop 19, which was very similar to Amendment 64, with the same exact irrational fear mongering. The MMJ industry opposed it for the same reason the MMJ industry is opposing A64: profit. The reason the dispensaries are closing in California is because they do not have millions of legal recreational consumers protecting access. If you want to buy into GoGreen's type of fear mongering, then remember that voting 'no' on A64 could mean dispensaries in Colorado pay the same price California dispensaries are paying today.
A64 does not affect medical marijuana in Colorado. A64 does not change A20. Please read the amendment. People like GoGreen are advocating to continue prohibition in order to protect the MMJ industry's profits. It is NOT to protect patients. Patients have the most to gain from A64. Cannabis is not expensive to grow, but it is very expensive to buy due to the risks involved in the black market. Dispensaries have been taking advantage of the hyper-inflated price markup to gouge patients. If A64 passes, then public stores will not have the inflated price markup due to the risks involved with prohibition, and patients will have the choice between the current dispensary monopoly, or a cheaper price and larger selection at the legal public stores. Currently, dispensaries are gouging patients because the only other choice is the black market.
If A64 passes, then patients will have cheaper medicine, a larger variety of selection, and access protected by hundreds of thousands of recreational consumers. With A64, the patients have the most to gain. A64 is great for MMJ patients in Colorado.
Amendment 64 does not affect medical marijuana. It does not affect A20. Patients will have all the same rights after A64. Please do not let people lie to you about this one. Do not buy into the irrational fear campaign. The people opposed to 64 do not have any points from the Amendment to show that it will affect patients in a negative manner. Patients have a lot to gain from A64. Dispensaries are trying to scare patients in order to protect profits. Patients have more to gain from A64 than just about anyone.
The laws of MMJ do not change. A20 will stay the same. Patents will have larger selection and cheaper prices if A64 passes. The current dispensary prices are inflated because the only other option is the black market. When patients have the choice between the lower prices and larger selection at the public store, then the dispensaries will no longer be able to gouge patients. They are willing to use any scare tactic within their means to protect those profits. The opposition to 64 is not about protecting patients. It is about protecting profit. Patients have nothing to fear, and everything to gain.
Amendment 64 will benefit the non smokers of Colorado with positive public projects. It will end the charging of more than 10,000 benign recreational smokers with minor possession every year. Adults will be able to produce reasonable amounts for person use. It will provide a larger selection and cheaper prices for patients. It will bring in hundreds of thousands of recreational smokers to protect access. The only people who stand to lose are the people profiting from the current black market; people like the ones GoGreen is fighting for. They do not care about the patients, they do not care about the positive public projects, the they do not care about recreational smokers. It is all to protect the profits dispensaries gain from prohibition.
Vote YES on Amendment 64. Everyone wins expect people profiting from the current black market. It is time for the next step in ending the drug war that has cost countless lives. Everyone benefits from A64.
Amendment 64 is a fine idea; however, it may actually be the beginning of the end of medical marijuana and the liberties the MMJ industry, caregivers, and growers have fought so hard to protect for over a decade.
Don't believe me? Look at what has happened in California? 800 centers are facing closure. Look at Colorado. Over 50 centers forced to close in the last 90 days.
A64 may pass, and Colorado may be the 1st to create retail recreational model for marijuana. Then what?
After the smoke clears, and the joints are out - the feds will come. Why? because they can. And all it will cost is a 44 cent stamp addressed to our landlords, our MMC's, our OPCs.
I support decriminalization; however, using Colorado as a testing ground for lobbyist and outside groups to further their own agenda troubles me.
If A64 passes, center owners, growers, opc's - watch your mailbox. The feds will come. I hope I'm wrong. But history has shown me otherwise.
Protect patients, protect Amendment 20, protect Colorado: vote no on A64.
>GoGreen is trying to get you to sell out 500,000 recreational smokers in Colorado,
yes_on_64 is trying to protect his drug dealing base at the risk of Amendment 20. You make the call.
>the 10,000 a year that are charged with minor possession
Wow, minor charges. How scary. Centers, caregivers and growers go to work every day to protect patients and Amendment 20. Our risks are not minor charges, silly. But total forfeiture of all assets civil and commercial at any moment.
A20 is a proven model that works for Colorado. It is also a frail and wonderful thing.
A64 is a shotgun pointed at the heart of Amendment 20. If A64 passes and the FEDS crack down (see below) it may put an end to ALL marijuana in Colorado and threaten the Supreme Court to rule Amendment 20 null and void.
>protect corrupt dispensaries who are over charging and profiteering from the black market. The motivation is purely profit, and they will do anything to scare you into voting against A64 to protect that profit.
"corrupt dispensaries?" we don't have dispensaries in Colorado. We have licensed centers that are the envy of the world.
Note: it was not UNTIL marijuana centers opened in Colorado that the price dropped and the quality improved.
FACT: in 2009 the average 1/8th was $70. Today, thanks to Ganjaprenuers, that price is as low as $20 and the quality has improved by leaps and bounds.
It wasn't the drug dealers that lowered the prices. It was the patients, the centers, the caregivers, and Amendment 20.
>Patents stand to win in many different ways if A64 passes.
Not too sure about patents, but A64 does NOTHING for patients.
>"The only people who stand to lose are the cheating dispensaries"
yes_on_64, you sure don't live in Colorado. We love our patients, our centers (we don't have dispensaries) our caregivers and amendment 20.
"cheat?" best joke I've heard all week. that's funny, coming from a drug dealer. :)
>that GoGreen is advocating for, and others like them who profit from the black market.
yes_on_64, with each word you write - you make me laugh. You obviously have NO idea about Colorado, Amendment 20 nor 64.
"black market?" at a center? dude, take a bong hit, and try to rethunk your thinking. Who needs the black market? Not I?
But you do, don't you?
Protect Amendment 20 Patients Caregivers Growers and Centers - VOTE NO on A64.
With Amendment 64, everyone wins except people profiting from the current black market. There will be millions of dollars for positive public projects. The state will save millions because people currently charged with minor possession will not take up the police's time. Patients will have easier and cheaper access to medicine. Amendment 64 is great for Colorado. Everyone wins except the drug dealers.
Just read what has been written below, and it will be clear to you. GoGreen is trying to get you to sell out 500,000 recreational smokers in Colorado, including the 10,000 a year that are charged with minor possession, in order to protect corrupt dispensaries who are over charging and profiteering from the black market. The motivation is purely profit, and they will do anything to scare you into voting against A64 to protect that profit.
Patents stand to win in many different ways if A64 passes. The only people who stand to lose are the cheating dispensaries that GoGreen is advocating for, and others like them who profit from the black market.
Please read all the dialogue below if you are interested.
ANON, still name calling? how bold… and predictable. : )
let's see if we can use logic and a bit less wind. now let me cut this like a knife on butter.
ANON: "The current recreational price on the street is up to $400 an ounce for top shelf. The price is projected to drop to $130 for the highest quality MJ, if A64 passes. So, you would be paying 15% on top of $130, totaling about $150, rather than $400."<
do you even live in Colorado?
FACT: The price of an ounce is 175 and up. The price of 2 ounces of Coloardo's best are available at many MMCs for only $350.
ANON "advocating for corrupt dispensaries."<
currupt dispensaries? really? you're better than a laughing box.
amendment 20, dispensaries, caregivers and patients have created the most revolutionary medical marijuana model in America.
FACT: in less than 3 years, the quality of MMJ in Colorado has become known worldwide. the price has dropped from $80 an 1/8th in 2009 to $25 an 1/8th.
ANON "artificially inflated prices."<
we've already beat this like a rug. get your facts straight.
>If A64 passes, everyone wins except people profiting from the current black market.Patients stand to greatly benefit from A64. <
A64 is about recreational marijuana and is a good idea going the wrong way on a one way street headed for a collision with the DEA and Supreme Court.
Listen to what J. Green at WeedMaps has to say...
State laws are nice, but "...in federal court — where perfect compliance with state law is no defense — harsh felony penalties could be imposed.
How many patients will have to go to the streets and risk muggings and contaminated marijuana?"
Protect Amendment 20, caregivers, growers, patients and centers.
VOTE NO on A64
>If GoGreen really cared about persecution, he would care about the 10,000 people charged with minor possession every year in Colorado<
what about the 100,000 Colorado MMJ patients?
what about the 600 Medical Marijuana Centers?
what about the 800 Medical Marijuana Grow Ops?
what about the 16,000 Caregivers?
"a couple dispensary owners."
really, you obviously have no idea about Colorado medical marijuana do you?
dispensary owners, caregivers, growers and patients are Colorado's medical marijuana warriors. they risk it all every day.
they risks their lives, the homes, their freedom everyday just by going to work. Doctor’s risk their practices, patients risk their jobs, growers and center owners risk all of their assets both civil and commercial. But we are truly bold…every day.
where were you? hiding behind a keyboard? calling people corrupt, liars, greedy?
keep name calling (it's funnier each time : ) you remind me of the boss on Dilbert’s comics. Makes noise but makes no sense.
To say that A64 will have no effect on A20 or medical marijuana is like a child, poking a bear with stick and wondering what’s going to happen next.
You don’t even have to be smart to see it. You simply have to read.
Protect Amendment 20, caregivers, growers, patients and dispensaries.
VOTE NO on A64
I will have to address the same fear mongering here, as GoGreen has put on other forums. He is advocating for profiteers, and not for medical access.
(7) Medical marijuana provisions unaffected. NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL BE CONSTRUED: (a) TO LIMIT ANY PRIVILEGES OR RIGHTS OF A MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENT, PRIMARY CAREGIVER, OR LICENSED ENTITY AS PROVIDED IN SECTION 14 OF THIS ARTICLE AND THE COLORADO MEDICAL MARIJUANA CODE;
GoGreen is trying to get patients to be afraid that A64 will change their medical access. A64 will improve their access. The only people who have to worry are people profiting from the current prohibition (the people he is fighting for, not you).
If A64 passes, people will no longer need a doctor's recommendation. The price is predicted to drop from $400 street price, to $130. These things are positive, yet the medical marijuana people are saying it is bad... why? It is all about money. They have everything to lose while the people gain.
If A64 passes, Medical Marijuana will be out of business overnight because marijuana will be over-the-counter. This is a great thing. They will no longer be able to take advantage of the black market and charge $300+ per ounce. The doctors will no longer be necessary. The entire industry, which has been exploiting the fact that it is illegal in order to keep prices unreasonably high, will be forced to be about medicine, and not profit. If A64 passes, then the people of Colorado win, and the corrupt dealers and dispensaries lose. It will be about medicine. You win with A64.
If you are an MMJ patient, then keep a few things in mind. With A64, the price will drop significantly. Very simply put, you will get your medicine for cheaper. Acquiring your medicine will become much easier without red tape. The strain selection will naturally increase. Cheaper medicine, larger selection, easier access. You win! Tax revenue will go to positive public projects. CO wins! Rather than being a small minority of MJ users, you will be joined by hundreds of thousands of recreational smokers who are currently illegal. The movement wins! Your access to MJ will have the backing of perhaps 500,000 recreational smokers. We all join together. Everyone wins... except the people profiting from the current black market.
Colorado is not a state of cowards. Do not believe in the fear campaign. They are lying to you to protect their selfish interest. They want to profit from your fear. Voting YES on 64 is good for you, good for Colorado, and good for MMJ patients. Everyone wins, except people who profit from the black market.
speaking of bookkeeping, one of our own is under an aggressive charge that could set a local and State precedent.
as reported in the media, Ali with Rocky Mountain Miracles is facing intense charges of cultivation and distribution. She is a center owner and her rights (our rights) are going to be in Court on Sept. 19th.
Ali could have taken a plea. She did not. She is fighting for her rights. Our rights. If she wins. All patients, centers, and caregivers wins. If she does not...?
Please join us in donating or simply supporting Ali today.
You can donate today @ http://fundly.com/save-mmj-from-dan-may
Protect MMJ from Dan May | Protect Amendment 20 | Protect Patients
well played, Cali - respect to your Rep. Sam Farr! I wonder if he plays chess?
smart move. let's see if it gets more traction. a 2nd Obama presidency may allow for more room for the industry to grow.
this is the way to methodically and wisely bring acceptance of MMJ to the masses. if passed, it would add an entirely different element to federal cases (and all those growers, caregivers, patients, and centers that find themselves therein.)
words matter. i like the word 'medical.'
Protect Amendment 20, patients, caregivers, growers, centers - support the Truth in Trials Act - Vote NO on A64.
defend Amendment 20, Colorado has the nation's most revolutionary '
medical marijuana' entrepreneurs, patients, caregivers, and citizens; however, the court ruling sets a precedent that could become the executioners axe if Amendment 64 passes and the FEDS react (as they usually do and are doing.)
a battle to reform America’s history with ‘marijuana’ is coming to a head.
if A64 passes, could it force the Supreme Court to finally ‘be the bear’ and enforce federal laws in Colorado?
this battle must be waged not on the time tables of lobbyist. But as a well-played game of chess. It is often those who attack first on the board that are the first to fall in the end.
Protect A20, caregivers, patients and centers. Vote NO on A64.
FYI: I hope I’m wrong. I support MMJ. But often, timing is everything. Beware the ‘bear.’
beware what you wish for...i support medical marijuana, but...
if anyone is paying attention one would find that A64 has the potential to provide a legislative victory (yea) - and a catastrophic failure for the Colorado MMJ industry, caregivers, patients and Amendment 20 (bummer.)
recent rulings by State and Federal courts have shown again and again that federal laws trump State when pressed in courts.
until now, the feds have been busy in Cali destroying what earlier lobbyist, lawyers, and city councils failed to do.
A64 is designed to create a retail market for 'marijuana' not 'medical' - but at what cost?
when interviewed the head of the MMED, was asked, "what about the FEDS?" the response... "we don't poke the bear."
A64 may pass, but it may be a short lived high followed by a federal crackdown that could easily destroy Amendment 20, patient's access, caregiver rights and centers.
i support decriminalization, however, i would suggest that if you want to protect Amendment 20, you may want to vote 'no' on A64.
recent court ruling suggest that if Amendment 20 get to the Supreme Court, it may not stand a chance:
with 1 letter and a stamp, the FEDS and Colorado's on DA have been able to shut down almost 1,000 small-businesses since Jan. 2012.
protect Amendment 20. protect caregivers. protect patients. VOTE NO on A64.
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