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Re: “Sky Sox and guns, utility connecting fees, and aggression from dogs and humans

"Rain, fires, floods, earthquakes, civil disobedience; this is just the beginning!"

do you religious freaks really believe this crap?? all the horrible things that your fairy in the sky has let pass, this is what will draw the invisible man in the clouds wrath??

keep hating on others... it's what your book of mythology says.....right?

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Posted by happyfew on 07/16/2015 at 9:22 AM

Re: “Confederacy's confusing legacy

Thank you, lektrikwire, for your one-sided history. I guess you never heard of John Brown or Bloody Kansas.

Yes, Lincoln did promise to leave slavery intact in those states that already practiced slavery, but he was elected on the promise of preventing the spread of slavery to any new western states joining the Union. This would have led to the gradual end of slavery, an institution that is now universally condemned.

This "same yearning for independence exercised against England" implies that the Union had grown as tyrannical as Great Britain had been, which is preposterous given the South had a vote in Lincoln's election, and Lincoln's declared intention of leaving the South alone.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/15/2015 at 9:27 PM

Re: “Sky Sox and guns, utility connecting fees, and aggression from dogs and humans

"Actually the facts show that firearms are more frequently used for defense, in fact two separate government's studies validate that."

Actually that is false. Both the DOJ and the FBI proved that statement to be false. All legitimate peer review of any studies claiming this have been proven to be false or unable to achieve.

Not anti gun only anti bullsh!t.

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Posted by Carl P on 07/15/2015 at 9:01 PM

Re: “Sky Sox and guns, utility connecting fees, and aggression from dogs and humans

Mr. Slocum, kids have been raised by 2 moms or 2 dads for many years now. Worry more about the many kids being raised by bad parents. Worry more about those raised in foster care. In case you missed the last episode of sister wives there are already families living as polygamists.

I've been hearing it is the end of the world from people for over 40 years now. Some would rather live in fear. They would rather think there noses are being rubbed in the mud and should instead open their minds. My church has been ordaining openly gay priests since the 80's. The Episcopalians are OK with celebrating love. Celebrate Gods love and you shouldn't have to worry so much.

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Posted by TruB on 07/15/2015 at 6:33 PM

Re: “Sky Sox and guns, utility connecting fees, and aggression from dogs and humans

Mr. Slocum.
I gave all my love to Jesus but he never called me back.
Get over it.

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Posted by longtooth on 07/15/2015 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Sky Sox and guns, utility connecting fees, and aggression from dogs and humans

"There is nothing more frightening than seeing an individual openly carrying a firearm, just because it is "his constitutional right."" -- Cyndy Kulp

Why is this so terrifying for you? You are more likely to be killed on your drive to/from the stadium in a vehicle crash than to be shot and killed.

"In the past week, I have read about two instances of gun violence where an individual was open carrying a firearm, and then decided to use it to shoot innocent people. Now several are dead and wounded in Austin, Texas, and Kansas City, Missouri."

In neither case was the gunman open carrying and then just decided to open fire, the gunman was carrying with the intent to fire.

"As much as people talk about defending themselves with a gun, the facts show that is rarely the case. Their weapons are most often used for suicide, assault, domestic violence and gun accidents."

Actually the facts show that firearms are more frequently used for defense, in fact two separate government's studies validate that. The problem is that the gun controllers and hoplophobes like yourself refuse to count these uses unless they result in the attacker being killed.

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Posted by Odin on 07/15/2015 at 10:18 AM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

1. I don't understand this comments page. It seems to refer to an article or letter other than the one I was reading.

2. Re: Cate Terwilleger letter on the Incline problem: This solution is elitist. Next suggestion, please.

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Posted by Laura Lee on 07/15/2015 at 9:36 AM

Re: “Confederacy's confusing legacy

"As the Confederate battle flag is lowered throughout the South, and as place names, memorials and plaques are slowly and inevitably removed..."

Yes, just as ISIS destroys historic christian, hindu and muslim shrines that have stood for centuries. Just as Communists 'disappeared' elements of history and religion that predated them.

Lenin said to destroy a country, you first destroy the family.

If there's one thing the progressive left has mastered, it is destruction. Enjoy your white guilt John. You deserve it.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/15/2015 at 9:16 AM

Re: “Confederacy's confusing legacy

Each of us with familial ties to the war have our own stories and perspectives. Mr. Hazlehurst has his and I respect his right to it.

That said, I seriously doubt his Union ancestor decided to make war on the South to end slavery -- the North could not have filled out its latrine details with the number of Yankees willing to leave their families and go die to free black slaves.

And why should they? At no point did Lincoln ever declare his intention in prosecuting the war was to end slavery. Indeed, not only did he say, in his first inaugural address, he had no intention to interfere with the institution, he said the Constitution gave him no right to and he endorsed the Corwin Amendment, passed two days before, making the permanence of slavery explicit.

Mr. Lincoln's war to crush the South's same yearning for independence exercised against England in 1776 cost well over 600,000 American lives. If Hazlehurst needs to beat his breast over his family's legacy of shame, he should start with that bloody act.

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Posted by lektrikwire on 07/15/2015 at 4:16 AM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

"Dave I have no idea what the hell your trying to say training in any field dont just vanish. "

Yes, it does. Which is why the Army (which you claim you were in) constantly is re-accomplishing training.

"She was however working armed security "

She VOLUNTEERED as a private individual after hearing about the other shooting that morning.

"she did stop the fella when everyone else was running around like hens with no heads."

Actually another armed VOLUNTEER reacted first and got there first, however was wounded.

" You are the one that said she was fired because shes gay I brought up the FACT it was after the shooting not before and she was gay the whole time Im sure she didnt all of a sudden turn gay after the incident."

Egads you are dense! YOU said she was fired because she shot the gunman. SHE WAS NOT! She was kicked out of the church, not fired, and it was a year after the shooting, and it was not because she shot the man, it was because someone brought up that she was gay, which the church was not aware of until that person outed her. The church had no idea she was gay when the shooting took place.

"Full compliance and enforcement of the laws on the books would result in positive results. But as long as certain laws are ignored money pours in from the lobby in Washington some rights will be brainwashed into the public while others are taken right out from under there nose.."

The NRA is one of the groups calling for better enforcement.

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Posted by Dave H on 07/14/2015 at 1:45 PM

Re: “Lessons still unlearned

Carol Cromie, the neighborhoods do have coalitions and even a council. Meetings for community input are held and very under attended. Mostly because the people are listened too but not heard. Also with your ideals a community without money would just have bad streets and drive down the property values because you are asking them to pay above and beyond regular taxes.

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Posted by TruB on 07/13/2015 at 6:25 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

For some reason, links shortened by Bitly don't work consistently. Here's the full link:

http://nypost.com/2015/07/06/bystanders-la…

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/13/2015 at 11:45 AM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

One of the things that make 9mm pistols great for concealed carry is their magazine capacity. A standard Smith & Wesson M&P holds 17+1. A Springfield XDm holds 19+1. Glock makes a magazine that holds a whopping 33 rounds of hollow point personal safety!

None of those magazines hold enough to have helped this poor Cincinnatti man...

"...it was like 40 v. 1. I saw 40 v. 1, it was 40 black youths stomping the crap out of one unlucky male, white. He didn’t do anything to deserve this beating except be white."

http://bit.ly/1K1TDoW

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/13/2015 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Lessons still unlearned

Fort Collins and Colorado Springs are nearly identical. Both cities have a large amount of federal employees, both have beautiful natural amenities, both are the same distance from Denver and DIA and UCCS is quickly growing in enrollment and available degree offerings that can compete with CSU. So why are they booming and we arent? Simple. People in Fort Collins pay much more in property taxes and those funds allow the city to maintain its facilities in a way that makes the city attractive to potential employers and potential students. If you want people to want to be here, we have to prove that we give a crap about the state of this citiy's facilities.

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Posted by dp72 on 07/13/2015 at 11:11 AM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

Dave I have no idea what the hell your trying to say training in any field dont just vanish. I would call on a retired Military man to watch my back long before I would some good old boys kid from who knows where. My god man I can remember rebuilding my first car a 1950 Pontiac in 1976 havent done one since then but bet I could. Besides Please tell how you know her training had stopped that she may not have been as sharp.She was however working armed security she did stop the fella when everyone else was running around like hens with no heads. How do you know her training had lapsed? You are the one that said she was fired because shes gay I brought up the FACT it was after the shooting not before and she was gay the whole time Im sure she didnt all of a sudden turn gay after the incident. To much of a coincidence not to call it as I see it on both counts. Looking in a mirror and pretending its a window accomplishes nothing. Full compliance and enforcement of the laws on the books would result in positive results. But as long as certain laws are ignored money pours in from the lobby in Washington some rights will be brainwashed into the public while others are taken right out from under there nose.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 07/12/2015 at 3:37 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

"Dave the training that is ten years or two years is the basic training that is taught and used to this day."

The training quires practice to remain proficient.

" Fired for being gay after the fact is a cop out "

It completely destroys your assertion that she was fired because she shot the gunman.

"How is training perishable?"

Did you honestly just ask that?

" Is a 20 year man in the Army less prepared then the 2 year man come on."

IF you were in the Army, then you would know that training is CONSTANTLY being done and re-done so that people stay proficient and knowledgeable.

"As far as back ground checks if enforced and used by all involved including those of you who have the mind set of the old west does address mental ability of someone trying to buy a firearm. "

Can you try that again, this time in English?

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Posted by Dave H on 07/12/2015 at 2:14 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

"Keeping that list (that contains NO behaviors and really isn't root causes) " -- TruB

Your willful ignorance is truly amazing.

"the ethics of claiming the evidence of a movie theater was chosen for any other reason than the movie that was playing. "

The movie was playing in almost every theater in the metro area. It has been established that he surveyed multiple theaters before choosing that one, which does not appear to have been chosen for convenience.

"the glorification of violence by saying a gunman was stopped in a crowd without listing a city name or way to verify this event. Most likely because again they were off duty LEO."

There have been numerous incidents where gunmen were stopped by people who were not off duty police. Please, do at least a little research.

" People get snarky "

Looked in the mirror lately?

"The how to improve society part because people have different morals. "

I know, it is far easier for lazy people to focus on a tangible object and pass feel-good laws then it is to enact any kind of meaningful change.

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Posted by Dave H on 07/12/2015 at 2:07 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

"Up until 1981 Colorado was a “may issue” state.
Today Colorado is a “shall issue” state. " - asawatcher

Sorry, but your dates are incorrect. Colorado enacted shall issue in 2003. Showing once again you do not know what you are talking about. And BTW, compared to 2002, our state homicide rates have generally been decreasing.

"You apparently don’t know how old I am."

Nor do I really care. Would you like a medal, or a chest to pin it on?

" People got arrested for carrying a concealed weapon, and for no other reason. Today, nobody is arrested for carrying a concealed weapon "

Incorrect yet again. People get arrested and convicted of carrying concealed even today. Not talking about illegal possession, I am talking about carrying concealed.

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Posted by Dave H on 07/12/2015 at 1:59 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

Ahhh, the ol' society needs fixing.

Keeping that list (that contains NO behaviors and really isn't root causes) in mind let's ask about:
the ethics of claiming the evidence of a movie theater was chosen for any other reason than the movie that was playing.
the glorification of violence by saying a gunman was stopped in a crowd without listing a city name or way to verify this event. Most likely because again they were off duty LEO.

"What part is confusing you?" The how to improve society part because people have different morals. People get snarky when pressed for answers and need to make themselves feel bigger by saying someone else failed to prove their point.

In the meantime it stinks for families like Ed's who miss out on ball games, arena concerts, shopping or visits to the library all because of the unproven fear mongering of sitting ducks. Maybe the children also deserve to be taught they can feel safe while the weapons are at home.

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Posted by TruB on 07/12/2015 at 10:11 AM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

Dave H writes:
So, I will ask you again, "When was concealed carry illegal in Colorado?"
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Up until 1981 Colorado was a “may issue” state.
Today Colorado is a “shall issue” state.
The difference is important.
Yes, there have always been individuals who could obtain a concealed weapons permit by demonstrating a NEED to carry a concealed weapon. Those licenses were issued by discretion.
But my drunk uncle Burt couldn’t get a concealed weapons permit JUST because he wanted to carry his new Glock in his armpit. Now that Colorado is a “shall issue” state, uncle Burt carries his Glock in his armpit because of all those desperadoes, packing 9mm Smith and Wessons, who are out to shoot him . . . at the Sky Sox game. (ok, I made up the Sky Sox game part. However, it is evident from the posts here on this thread that that kind of reasoning is at play.)
So, in answer to your question: the world existed BEFORE 1981 and in that world not every citizen who wanted to, was permitted to carry a concealed weapon. In fact, few could get a permit to carry a concealed weapon. You apparently don’t know how old I am. I have a very good memory of the ‘50s. People got arrested for carrying a concealed weapon, and for no other reason. Today, nobody is arrested for carrying a concealed weapon . . . possessing a weapon illegally perhaps, but not just for carrying a concealed weapon.

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Posted by asawatcher on 07/12/2015 at 9:33 AM

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