No one doubts that an Olympic museum would draw tourists. If proposed on its own it would likely have wide support - with or without RTA funding.
Unfortunately tourists are also not what makes cities thrive - they are what makes them live in the past.
Agree with Dave Gardner. The primary beneficiaries of the downtown stadium and museum components of C4C are the property owner and developer. Is a stadium/museum combo something the citizens want? Or is C4C being foisted on us by the coercive power of local and state govt in collaboration with the primary beneficiaries? Councilman Miller is aware of the financial quicksand that is C4C. http://www.joelmillercoloradospringscityco…. But the mayor and his allies appear to be oblivious of the danger - or perhaps they don't care. COS doesn't need a stadium. COS needs companies to set up business in our city. We need jobs and business travelers to increase airport traffic. Does anyone believe a company will choose to set up business in COS because we have a downtown stadium? Or a sports museum, no matter how unique or highly visible from I-25? Stadiums do not in themselves provide economic prosperity, but are instead a by-product of the prosperity that comes to a city when business is booming. Entrepreneurs build stadiums AFTER their city becomes successful. And, like Oklahoma City, which the Gazette so admires, they do it without govt/taxpayer dollars. And Hazlehurst's comment that COS may be chosen to host the Olympic games in 2024 is laughable, just as laughable as it would be to say that Pueblo, last year's recipient of RTA tax money, will be the Olympic committee's choice. It will be easy to get rid of Bach in the next election, but not easy to rid ourselves of a financial mistake the size of C4C.
Colorado Springs remains a small town that lucked out for 70 or so years as the Cold War fueled one of the longest military expansions in history. It was easy money as it became a company town -- not unlike Pueblo, although in Colorado Springs' case, the company was the federal government.
That expansion has effectively ended despite attempts to keep it going with the "war on terrorism." The town over expanded with little reason for being here. As a nation, we've chosen to send jobs that support families overseas.
Colorado Springs now turns, as it has so many times before, to industries that support minimal incomes -- tourism, hospitality, museums and health care. Same old, same old -- not much vision there.
Yes, this town definitely needs an upgrade to become more PROGRESSIVE or we will become more STAGNANT and new industries will never want to consider coming here to CS!
GUESS WHAT FOLKS? My former comment "RMJ tours that could expand use of the city airport and B&Bs that are friendly to RMJ to bring people here for a vacation." On the evening news they reported that a RMJ tour company is now going to do this in Denver with a tour bus that will take you from Denver to the ski slopes with as much bud as you can smoke along the way!
Why are we not doing this in Colorado Springs? Our reputation needs to be upgraded from the conservative status that we have held for decades and if we are willing to accept this change we will progress into the 21st century!!!
I also suggest expanding recycling by building a glass recycling plant, start Hemp facility to grow and manufacture hemp products and oil, but not sure if anyone is listening.
Spiro Agnew is long gone, but not quite yet forgotten. Those "nattering nabobs of negativism" were opponents American involvement in Vietnam, who ultimately turned out to be correct. Spiro Agnew ultimately resigned the office of Vice President in disgrace after it was revealed he had taken bribes when he was the Governor of Maryland.
Is that really the best analogy for driving home the point of this column? Perhaps!
Same Warren Burger who used to answer his door in his underwear and carrying a revolver?
BTW, since Burger's statements an incredible body of academic works have been published completely refuting him.
I've liked a lot about John Hazlehurst's thinking over the years, but it's never been a case of seeing 100% eye to eye. This column makes it official: John is an old-timer. His use of the term "economic stagnation" reveals he isn't as hip as he might like to be. The world has entered a new era; we're seeing the end of ever-expanding economies. There is just no more planet to plunder. So the idea that we are standing still if we aren't building something is just so yesterday.
Someone should have told us that the ransom we paid to keep the USOC in town was just a down payment. If we believe what John is telling us, we are already being threatened with USOC departure if we don't ante up again - and so soon! It feels like a sequel to Goodfellas. And it's pretty hard to have a return on investment at this rate.
Now, I think the Olympic museum is a great idea. But if it's a ransom payment, no thank you. And if a retired widow trying to decide between medicine and heat has to subsidize it with her tax dollars, no thank you. There has to be another way.
And a publicily subsidized stadium for a professional sports team? This is the one time I might be glad to live in a city so tax-averse. Not just no, but hell no! It will never happen if the public has to provide a penny.
C'mon, John, you know this scheme was cooked up by dinosaurs to enrich land speculators and developers. We can do better. We don't need to swallow this lousy deal just because you think a city that's not pouring more concrete is not a successful city. That is yesterday's metric.
I love this city. I want it to be a wonderful place to live. But I'm a naysayer on this, because it was cooked up with yesterday's recipes.
"They welcomed the future — they didn't fight it."
I wish the council and mayor were so forward thinking. If they would just accept that marijuana is now legal and we could use the tax money. Instead the mayor fixes things the only way he know how "build a building".
Another glowing success for TABOR, intent upon destroying our society.
Elaine, it looks like your claims of "fraud" have been sufficiently debunked and shot full of holes (no pun intended) by not one, but three educated, informed individuals who chose to research the subject instead of letting blind partisanship guide their thoughts and deeds. Care to explain and/or defend your initial stance at this point?
The other factor that impacts on urban violence is income-disparity. Might it be that income disparity is the true reason why Chicago et al have more violent crime, rather than gun laws being the root-cause?
"What about New York City, Thinker? Huge restrictions on guns, low crime rate"
While figures do indeed fluctuate, the Big Apple, like the urban locales I mentioned previously, is awash in firearms-related violence much greater per capita than areas with less restrictive regulations.
Rodney Hammond, I have to agree with you totally. I have a medical discharge for the Air Force, with a DD214, and sadly do not receive any benefit from it to assist with employment-in an y way. Everytime I seek employment I am asked of I served. I have to say 'yes, but I am not considered due to a medical discharge." I have suffered, and suffered, living here to get ahead because of the vast job market letting vetereans with vets points exceed past me, and it totally sucks. Just once I would love to be allowed employment on that merit alone, so I can have a gainful oppurtunity that would allow me a life of no suffering.
Rich Tosches is clearly a gifted writer - however he wastes his talent by focusing on divisive political issues versus communal city-wide issues.
Do some good Rich - make our city leaders better!
Money spent watering parks will do more to avert crime than the gang who can't shoot straight can...
Joe Atencio! You have a little crush on Tosches don't you? I should point out that The Independent is not a "funny" paper and it is not really a newspaper either. The advertisements therein confirm that it is not even independent! Tosches does not tell or write jokes. He writes one joke each week which is called a "column" but it should not be confused with "humor".
Elaine Brush obviously has a derision for The First Amendment as well. Who does she think she is to tell another person that their comment "went over the line"? Her complete lack of knowledge is indicative of the proliferation of stupidity and ignorance. A recall election is how this system is supposed to work and once again the Socialists feathers are showing as she bemoans the recalled acting on their own agenda not their constituents as being the right way. Could you be little bit more wrong Ms Brush? Yes! The expression commonly said is "An armed society is a polite society". Anti-Bill of Rights people show that they have no compunction about being impolite. All the Elaine Brush' are free to leave and settle in a country that suits them but none are free to take anyone else' Rights away. A random act by a lunatic does not make gun owners guilty of anything. Mind and tend to your own as a lunatic's family should have done and then the problems are handled before they become tragedies. Nobody else, not even police will ever protect you Ms. Brush and that is the simple fact so many of your kind fail to grasp. By the way, the use of firearms in self-defense occurs every single day in America far out-numbering the illegal use. Do some research please. Using a firearm in self-defense is the second to last thing anyone wants to do, dying being the last thing.
What about New York City, Thinker? Huge restrictions on guns, low crime rate.
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Elaine, cities with extreme firearms restrictions (Chicago, Detroit, D.C.) also have lopsided incidences of gun violence, proving that making an item essentially illegal to possess doesn't have any tangible benefit and that "feel good/do nothing" legislation will never make a positive impact toward reducing the figures.
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