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Re: “Get out and vote, the third debate, death with dignity, and more

Mr. Williams, suicide might be a crime in most jurisdictions, but as somewhere someone said - there have been no known prosecutions. You will not be able to dictate how I end my life when my pain becomes too severe, or when my life has no quality. If you base your argument on your god's wish that everyone live out their life 'naturally', regardless of their circumstances, then yours is a religious argument - keep it out of government. My life. My choice.

I, too, have read this bill - and I think you are promoting fear and suspicion where none really exists. I have also looked at the Oregon law with regard to litigation and complaints of other chicanery. I have, as of yet, found nothing to indicate that this law on their books for the last 2 decades has done anything except make it possible to die with dignity.

I watched my mother suffer and die from the ravages of colon cancer that spread to her pancreas. My heartfelt sympathies for your loss - but you are incorrect about this measure.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 10/26/2016 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Get out and vote, the third debate, death with dignity, and more

The Colorado promoters of assisted suicide are guilty of false advertising. Their bills do not deliver as promised. If they are really supporting individual choices and rights they would provide an ordinary witness to the self administration of the lethal dose. Without a witness they are allowing forced euthanasia. I learned after caring for my wife's last 18 months of declining autonomy. I learned that you can work on 4 hours sleep. I am focused on how this Prop 106 is written, it's omissions and how it could be administered to my wife.
Colorado Prop 106 provides no ordinary witness to the self-administration of poison.
Even as the promoters have inundated us with their chant that the lethal dose must be self-administered and mentioned it 9 times in their 11 page Prop 106 they do not provide an ordinary witness to the act. That omission effectively eviscerates all of the so called safeguards. The difference between having a witness to "self administration" and no witness is that one honors individual rights and the other is non voluntary euthanasia. A promoter was once asked "why don't you just legalize euthanasia?" He said "the public is not ready to accept euthanasia."
The process seems to be full of requirements on the front end up until the script is written. Then an heir can pick up the script and administer it without oversight. Know that only 2% of the doctors have attended these events in other states.
Even the front end requirements have fatal flaws. A predatory heir may be a witness to the initial request along with a staff member of the facility. Does that sound like good public policy?
The rest of the family is not required to be contacted. And everyone involved gets instant immunity. The death certificate is falsified by this law which makes it impossible to prosecute a murder when the death certificate states the underlying illness is the cause of death. There really is no transparent reason not to post poison as the cause.
This bill Final #145 Article 48 provides that a predatory heir can facilitate the signup process, murder the individual and receive immunity all before the rest of the family is notified. This is neither reasonable nor prudent public policy. This is dangerous public policy that puts the entire population (all ages) at risk of exploitation by the medical-industrial-complex, organ traffickers and predatory heirs.
I encourage people to read the Oregon model bill before taking a, or expounding on their position. We will agree no matter our starting position that this Prop 106 does not deliver.
This bill is not the one.
Respectfully submitted,
Bradley Williams
President
MTaas dot org

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Posted by Bradley Williams on 10/26/2016 at 11:21 AM

Re: “Obituary: 'Street Smarts' writer Bob Campbell

Good man. Sad loss.

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Posted by Bill Burns on 10/26/2016 at 9:55 AM

Re: “Anti-marijuana Suthers, Trump supporters, KRCC changes, and more

Robert, In all due respect, disagreement is welcomed and encouraged. But insults and name-calling diminish the credibility of one's argument.

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Posted by MarkM on 10/24/2016 at 3:38 PM

Re: “Anti-marijuana Suthers, Trump supporters, KRCC changes, and more

Michael, Carolyn, Doug, Janet, Ben: Thank you and ditto.

Posted by MarkM on 10/24/2016 at 3:32 PM

Re: “Anti-marijuana Suthers, Trump supporters, KRCC changes, and more

Vietnamized, you have some screws loose and some that are sheared clean off. Your stories become more convoluted every week and abound with contradictions. Then the stuff you make up is absurd. You have found your rightful place though -Colorado Springs and The CS Indy- brought to you by dopers... And I have never seen a ballot wherein I could vote for war. Why vote when your fearless leaders use executive power to trump your Rights, cancel your vote and insinuate you are stupid?

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 10/23/2016 at 9:31 PM

Re: “Downtown's second chance

Mr K, inclusiveness is the Christian way...I wonder why the good Christian citizens of Colorado Springs will recoil in horror at the idea of a raft of non-white, non-Christian immigrants showing up and reminding us how to strive to be better.

The world's population is already in population overshoot - too many people, too little food, water, oil wars with innocents in the way (collateral damage is a word that makes me physically ill)

Your thoughtful posts give me hope that some of the professed arch-conservatives might just listen in church or understand what they read in their Bibles and finally get the picture that we really all are in this together.

Posted by Vietnamized on 10/23/2016 at 4:51 PM

Re: “Check out this 'purple' Dem: Mark Anthony Barrionuevo

A statesman? That would be a relief...and a novelty.

Posted by Vietnamized on 10/23/2016 at 12:59 PM

Re: “Trump's 'tinkle-down' economics

I particularly like TINKLE-down economics, where Trump and his buddies stand on tall building and pee on all of us while laughing!

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Posted by Vietnamized on 10/23/2016 at 12:56 PM

Re: “Sallie Clark's next horizon — governor?

Having been absent from Colorado and the Springs for the majority of her tenure I don't know what she has actually been a part of...but in looking at the county and city infrastructures, the problems with water, Fountain Creek, etc, then maybe retirement would be best for all.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 10/23/2016 at 12:54 PM

Re: “Anyone but Trump

And just how do you think, or suspect (or whatever it is you call your thought process) that Sharia law is coming to a nice little, well-armed, rabidly evangelical burg like Colorado Springs, bobo?

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Posted by Vietnamized on 10/23/2016 at 12:45 PM

Re: “Anyone but Trump

Bobo, you are a perfect example of what damage that ignorant, poison spewing mysogynist Trump has done. I am sorry for you! It is a terrible thing leaving in fear.

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Posted by Bibi on 10/23/2016 at 1:14 AM

Re: “Anyone but Trump

Thanks Laura. This is one very important crappy behavior of Trump. Match that with him knowing more than the generals about ISIS, widespread deportation and anti-Planned Parenthood/abortion stance. I have already submitted my ballot and voted for Hillary. And LONG LIVE RBG!

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Posted by missjoanne on 10/22/2016 at 1:15 PM

Re: “Anyone but Trump

The current hysteria over sharia reminds me of the campaign against the presidential candidacy of Al Smith in 1928, when paranoid opponents claimed, if he were to win the race, the pope would end up ruling America and imposing Catholicism on all citizens.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 10/22/2016 at 12:00 PM

Re: “Anyone but Trump

So you fail to mention what Bill Clinton was doing with Monica Lewinsky in the Oval office. Then all the other women that came out and said he either had affairs with, fondaled, assaulted and or raped them over the years, as Hillary supported him by trying to discredit or destroy them. Hummmmm I don't really see the balance in your reasoning.

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Posted by Ben McFall on 10/22/2016 at 8:24 AM

Re: “Sallie Clark's next horizon — governor?

Run Sallie Run ......

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Posted by actionjackson on 10/22/2016 at 7:50 AM

Re: “Anyone but Trump

So bobo, are you really that scared of the islamists that you think they can take down the USA? Sorry, but I have way more faith in this country than that. Ain't no way those two bit $#!^heads could ever pose a real threat to this great mighty nation. The terror you're showing in that you're scared of their takeover is exactly what they want, but in a nation where Christianity is seen as overly strict, I don't see extreme wahhibism catching on anytime soon.

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Posted by RJ Brown on 10/21/2016 at 10:00 PM

Re: “Anyone but Trump

Hope you like sharia law.

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Posted by bobo on 10/21/2016 at 8:59 PM

Re: “Patients demand a voice in city policymaking; judge strikes down doc referral rule

Well said, T.Rump - I just experienced something of the sort in the industrial hemp arena - the FDA, DEA (still pissed at Jared Polis' hemp flag flying over the US Capitol building) and the USDA have declared that cannabidiol from industrial hemp cannot be used in edibles because it's an adulterant. It's the same cannabidiol that is extracted from the Charlotte's Web low THC marijuana, but CW Pharmaceuticals (CW = Charlotte's Web) is still using it in their products.

The CDPHE has always been 'business friendly', and this is no exception. Granted the MMJ and Rec business has been a boon for Colorado revenue coffers, but producing cannabidiol from hemp is far less expensive (licensing and cultivation issues both) than producing CBD from high THC marijuana. Characteristically, high THC marijuana is also low in CBD. CBD from hemp would virtually cancel the economic value of that compound in the MMJ/rec industry.

This growing season saw the entry into the industrial hemp CBD market of some substantial investments, only to have them put on hold by the back room machinations of the CDPHE, DEA, FDA and USDA. "Not enough research on industrial hemp" they say. Bull plop.

Colorado Springs is just being true to its lily white anglo-saxon protestant roots in attempting ban anything that has the appearance of being either fun on good for you.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 10/21/2016 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Patients demand a voice in city policymaking; judge strikes down doc referral rule

The task force on Medical Marijuana was rigged from the beginning. It was designed to eliminate the MMJ industry in Colorado Springs. 75% of the panel is anti MMJ. Rigged panel and a complete failure! Did not even address the reason it was formed.
In April hopefully we can vote out from council these complete failures: Bagley, Pico, King and Knight.

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Posted by Donald T Rump on 10/21/2016 at 9:31 AM

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