And I don't appreciate people with face piercings, but I am not going to give them dirty looks. I leave them be and they leave me be.
Millions of people do appreciate firearms and are not alarmed when they see them. Some appreciate the mechanics and craftsmanship. Some appreciate the heritage and tradition. Some appreciate the political statement that armed citizens are not something to be feared by anyone save those with bad intentions. Some people even appreciate that someone in their midst stands ready to step into the breach if an act of violence occurs.
Granted there are some who think of firearms as some evil talisman and superstitiously assign will and intent to objects (Jung would have a field day with them), but the organized open carry of firearms in places like Starbucks is meant to show these people how incredibly foolish they are.
I would not fear the person openly carrying firearms in a safe and legal manner, as it is exceedingly unlikely that they would have ill intent.
Instead you should fear the person illegally carrying covertly as he is the person with malice in his heart, but since you cannot see a covertly carried firearm, that would require you to fear all people who appear unarmed.
Well Dave, I am actually a female version of you, well dressed, educated, Hispanic and so forth....but I don't appreciate seeing firearms in a coffee shop.
My post was a direct counter to the bigotry filled Op-Ed authored by Tosches, so if you are going to levy charges at me, you best be careful where you aim.
The reasoning behind the request from Starbucks is an aside at best.
So dave, did you mean to post that on facebook where everyone tries to make their life seem more important than everyone else's? sure sounds like you probably do, including lots of pictures... by the way, why did starbucks start asking patrons to not wear their guns in their store? because they were hearing about it and losing business. like most conservatives you believe only what you want to see and hear...
I know you were at the same reunion I was, but it's hard to tell that from your description.
Five years ago there were 117 of the 535 graduates of 1958 living in the COS area. There were about 80 people at this reunion, of which about 60 were classmates. Of those 60, 28 are from the COS area.
You didn't stick around long enough to really talk to many people. I found it interesting to hear about how people were feeling and about the marvels of medicine in our lifetime. I hope you heed the advice to have a DRE. A myriad of topics were discussed. You could have heard a conversation about research in electrical engineering , about progress in health care to under served areas, about real estate in the COS area, about what it's like to be in TV and magazine ads, about travel of all kinds, about kids and grand kids,and yes, even great grand kids, about moving from one part of the country to another, or about living in COS during the summer and a kinder climate in the winter. You could have heard about cars: old and new, about what it's like to still be working and what plans many have made for retirement and how they spend their time. You could have heard about what it's like to fly a helicopter , about unmanned vehicle systems, about photography, about art of all kinds, and about gardening and cooking.
Also, the "icy" prom queen was at the reunion. She is happy and healthy and friendly and had a wonderful time reconnecting.
It was a fun read, but the only parts I recognized were that Carmen's Mom is 103 years old and that Helen is radiant.
Jean Knight Sitkowski
What is more scary, Iknowhuh: A professional, well-dressed, educated Hispanic legally and safely carrying openly while having lunch, or the hateful bigot skulking in the corner giving him dirty looks?
Robert.....yes, I laughed out loud with Rich's piece here. He has made me laugh for years and I find the humor enlightening. I am very unhappy about the recall of 2 great and dedicated leaders, Morse and Giron. But whatever. And yes I will stay anonymous because of people like you......scary! If you do not like what Rich is writing, then DON'T READ IT!
Dave......if I had seen you, you would have gotten a real dirty look!
Had to take the new Subaru in for scheduled maintenance and on the way back I stopped at a Starbucks a little while ago to grab an Orange Mango Smoothie and a Turkey Rustico Panini for lunch. Grabbed my Dell tablet, but left my jacket in the car, meaning my compact revolver was fully exposed on the belt of my suit. No one paid attention to the handgun on my hip as I stood in line with everyone else and placed my order. As I sat at my table eating my Panini and trying to avoid getting anything on the tie my daughter gave me for my birthday, I VPN’d in to work and checked on the status of a VOIP call manager which had been giving the junior engineers a headache. One person did eventually ask what kind of firearm I was carrying and commented on the beautiful custom scroll and inlay work the engraver had done. We had a brief discussion on the merits of the leather vs Kydex holsters -- the ostrich leather holster I had on is much easier on the finish of the handgun. I made a quick call to my wife before she left for her class at the university and asked if there was anything I needed to pick up for the fund raising dinner party/wine tasting we are hosting tonight (money goes to support a group of veterans who are helping with the flood recovery up north). I also reminded her that I would be golfing on Saturday morning. I finished my meal and as I was leaving, held the door open for a couple of people who were entering the establishment, neither of whom even batted an eye upon seeing my firearm.
How was your lunch, Rich?
What exactly is reasonable about laws that are arbitrary, ineffective, and not enforceable? These were idiotic laws, happyfew. Had the legislature actually taken its time to look at these Bloomberg/Biden backed proposals they would have realized that. Even some of the sponsors of the bills have now come to that realization.
"How are these peoples drinking water catching on fire again???"
If you do some research you will learn that had nothing to do with fracking.
Fracking causes no harm to aquifers??? How are these peoples drinking water catching on fire again??? So in your opinion one must give up everything if we want to limit pollution and environmental damage??? It is a rare occurrence so it doesn't matter... until your water catches fire. Another republican that doesn't give a rats butt about anyone but themselves and will only support big oil and big corps. Yoko Ono was all about love... obviously not what you are about.
I see the gunuts are emboldened by the recall. Only in this village would such a reasonable set of regulations lead to a very costly recall (where is the outrage teabaggers?). Reasonable people must stand up and point out the insanity of the gunuts and their desire for a small minority to have influence over a vast majority. Great piece Rich!
The most wretched sewage that could ever be published. I have never as I do at this moment wished for another human being to just drop off the face of this planet as I do for the cretin that strung these words together. For all the brilliant or even slightly skilled aspiring writers that will never be published for inane reasons here is the insult that could drain every bit of hope they had. I do not hide behind a user name, I invite you to speak to me to my face and please use your gutter mouth in this same fashion. Bring your children so they might see you spew this stench, reminding you that many people including their children may be exposed to this pornography, racism and bigotry. You have not the Right nor are you free to debase, ridicule, incite, bait, or promote hatred for a section of society that lives in a certain geographic region. Equating them to be dullards and killers that are lazy is not any different from the treatment of black people not too long ago. I will make my goal from this point on to see that The Independent is no longer allowed to be displayed openly but kept under the retail counters and away from children. This would be purely in the public interest and to ensure that children will not be subjected to what they may deem proper behavior because it is easily accessed. To the person that "laughed", I hope you were being sarcastic.
Deborah George: Do you know where your drinking water comes from? You mention aquifers. Do you know what an aquifer is? Or where? Chemicals you say? Yours and everyone else' life revolves around chemicals. Can you tell us; where did you get all your knowledge about "fracking" since you seem to know very little about it. Or are you a former fracker ready to be a whistle blower? Drilling for natural gas is what most of us want because we need it to stay warm. Highly flammable, highly explosive but you use it and you also fill your automobile with gasoline which is pretty much a chemical and highly flammable as well. Those that oppose the methods used to supply the public with necessities really should just go and live off the land or at least stop driving or get rid of the toxic stuff under their sink or in the garage. The faucets that flame when opened whilst one holds a match to it is a rare occurrence and usually due to improperly drilling a water well. It is natural gas that ignites. Nothing to do with fracking. Yoko Ono is against fracking, does that tell you anything?
Base. Very base and crass.
OMG. I laughed so hard Rich!
I humbly nominate Jocelyn Sandberg, former KRCC operations manager, who was murdered in 2002. She touched many lives and helped to shape local public radio.
An informative memorial site for Jocelyn is located at http://www.zyrcster.com.
Here's the link to Every Vote Counts' Facebook site:
They're about accountable government generally, not just as this relates to marijuana issues.
As I was reading this article only one name came to mind, Bee Vrandenburg. Imagine my thrill to see that she is already on your list. I worked part-time at one of her many business enterprises. I found her to be a kind, down-to-earth woman who didn't put on any airs. I was saddened by her death and am reminded daily of her as I listen to KRCC and hear that the station is underwritten by The Bee Vrandenburg Foundation.
They need to keep the money to pay for all the buearcrats, their junkets, big houses, and bonuses...taxes are higher than ever before, the debt increasing faster than ever before, and services are less than ever before...and that Ralph, comes from your ruling liberals buddies in Washington.
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