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Re: “Marriage equality, guns again, city bus routes, and more

Mr. Wyman writes:
“It does get tiresome trying to explain to those types their follies. The 2nd Amendment: You can explain it to them but you cannot understand it for them.”

I’m of the notion that when the founders who wrote the Constitution used the word “necessary” (the only use of that word in the entire document) they actually thought that what was “necessary” was actually something important. Many Americans “understand” that what was “necessary” then is no longer “necessary” today. Many Americans “understand” that the Second Amendment was written more than 200 years ago, for a variety of reasons no longer relevant in twenty-first century America. Many also “understand” that the proliferation of weapons has resulted in the increasingly abusive use of those weapons. Denial of that simple fact by those who advocate for that proliferation is what a lot of Americans don’t “understand”. And that is also quite “tiresome”.
You, Mr Wyman, are not the final arbiter of Constitutional understanding.

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Posted by asawatcher on 07/05/2015 at 9:11 AM

Re: “Marriage equality, guns again, city bus routes, and more

John Howell! You said it best! Thank you for taking time to write. It does get tiresome trying to explain to those types their follies. The 2nd Amendment: You can explain it to them but you cannot understand it for them.
Then followed by "The Idiot of the Week" Glenn Perry! Take a bow Glenn for suggesting mental health evaluations. Lets have everyone be tested. You go first Glenn, then an IQ test too. I will give up my firearm if you score triple digits in the IQ test.
And Kenton Lloyd, hats off to you for your suggestion about bus service. Denver has done it this way for years and the buses are used and useful. The cockamamie system here must have been designed by a monkey in a room with a map and a marker pen. (Glenn Perry's arch nemesis).
Finally, James M. Hesser! If you want to pay more tax then by all means pay more. Pay out your fat butt. Mr. Bruce did no harm to Colorado Springs. The death knell for this city and what made it a laughing stock is Focus on the Family. Plain and simple. No businesses want to move here and the road situation does not help. Pay more tax for road repair(?) something that should be in the budget already! Get real and wake up. $275 million in revenue the city rakes in, where does it go? $1.6 million a year to USOC for 30 years to stay. Fiscal genius? The CSPD with over 800 employees gets a large share and right behind them with 19 employees is the office of the Mayor! Doug Bruce did not do this. He made some politicos angry and wound up in jail. He rocked the boat. He is not a butt-kisser like you Hesser. Sorry but I call em like they are. If every US citizen paid the actual tax they owed this year the national deficit would almost be paid off.
These are facts and that is something The Indy does not deal in too often. Prove me wrong.

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 07/03/2015 at 8:30 PM

Re: “Long and winding road reaches its rainbow

Accept equal marriage and move on. Stop the claims of legal loopholes. Quit twisting the wording and intent of future legislation meant to fracture equality. It is so frustrating and stagnant when civil rights win and yet some continue to battle against progress.

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Posted by TruB on 07/01/2015 at 4:08 PM

Re: “Long and winding road reaches its rainbow

No, I never thought I'd see this day come to pass in my lifetime and I'm a kid of the '60s.

Yes, it would be nice if Colorado Springs could evolve to be inclusive of all its people that live here, and put all this nastiness behind us so we can grow and increase our employment opportunities with new businesses coming to our more friendly community.

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Posted by guruD on 07/01/2015 at 10:47 AM

Re: “Mayor adds meaning to Bike to Work Day

Thank you Tim for the wonderful article and for capturing the energy of the day in your words and images.

It was a damn good morning to be on a bike and I predict that it's going to get even better!

Pedal On ~ Allen

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 07/01/2015 at 10:46 AM

Re: “Long and winding road reaches its rainbow

Thank you for your statement.

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Posted by Ed Sanders on 07/01/2015 at 10:33 AM

Re: “Long and winding road reaches its rainbow

Love you Mr. Hazlehurst. Indeed you fought along side us and our city is better for your work...thank you my friend.

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Posted by carolyncathey on 07/01/2015 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Marriage equality, guns again, city bus routes, and more

In his letter, John Howell writes, "Birkhead extols what he calls 'patriots' to stand up..." Obviously, he meant to write "exhorts," not "extols."

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/01/2015 at 9:50 AM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

Dave Anderson, Boulder: Yes, Bernie Sanders has some ideas rooted in idealism !College For Free! - it's because he is a socialist. Everybody working for the good of everybody else, free everything, it's a nice idealistic world concept. The problem: Socialism is just like war in Afghanistan, it doesn't work. It's been proven, many times, very recently. IT DOESN'T WORK.

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Posted by Yathink Rilly on 06/30/2015 at 2:06 PM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

Not a problem, asawatcher. We are both on the same side on this.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 06/30/2015 at 8:46 AM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

yup, Mr. K
Sorry

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Posted by asawatcher on 06/29/2015 at 7:13 AM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

asawatcher, you have mixed up my posts with those of Dave H, and you missed the sarcasm. I certainly do not believe that hurting someone's feelings is just as bad as murder. I am surprised anyone would take such an outrageous statement seriously.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 06/27/2015 at 1:25 PM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

Mr H;
I do not need to “brush up on analogies”, or “refine” or reword them to suit your preconceptions.
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Dave H writes:
“Confederate flag flyers are not an organization nor do they belong to any particular belief. To assume that a person who flies the battle flag embraces racism is incorrect.”

I did NOT reference “Confederate flag flyers”. I pointed to “organizations that promote beliefs”. Don’t change my words, and then argue against YOUR changes in an attempt to discredit what I wrote.
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Dave H writes:
“To assume the Second Amendment proponents embrace or advocate murdering people is likewise wrong.”

I did not even mention the Second Amendment. Stop your attempts to deflect. (That being said, I DO sympathize with Mr Birkhead’s observation about Second Amendment proponents who flee from any responsibility as to the predictable results of the proliferation of firearms which they so enthusiastically advocate)
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Dave H writes:
“And yes, if you assume otherwise, you are indeed no better than people like the Charleston gunman.”

Sorry, Dave H, I don’t agree that to “assume” something is as bad as murdering nine people in cold blood. How do you arrive at such an equivalence?
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Dave H writes:
"The mere fact that you demonize groups shows you are really no better than he is." Indeed, this person wrote a letter that could have hurt someone's feelings, and that is no better than a vicious murderer killing nine unarmed parishioners at a Bible study.”

Really? Hurting “someone’s feelings” is as bad as murdering nine people? Really? Really???? What is it that you are trying to justify?
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Dave H writes:
“Truly, many, if not most people who fly the Confederate Battle Flag are just plain ignorant, and know nothing of its history and traditions.”

Agreed, a symbol of ignorance shouldn’t fly above any state capitol grounds any more than should a symbol of oppression and treason.

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Posted by asawatcher on 06/27/2015 at 10:41 AM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

Speaking of just plain ignorance, I remember from my youth that certain kids, who wanted to project an image of toughness, would put two flags or decals side by side on their bicycles and cars: the pirate skull and crossbones and the Confederate Battle Flag. Of course, they had no idea of what either actually stood for, particularly as we all were Yankees growing up in the North. They just knew it was evil.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 06/26/2015 at 8:44 PM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

Let's refine that analogy even further. "If I demonize Germans who fly a Nazi flag, I’m no better than the guy who thoughtlessly turned on the gas at Auschwitz?"

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 06/26/2015 at 8:33 PM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

"The mere fact that you demonize groups shows you are really no better than he is." Indeed, this person wrote a letter that could have hurt someone's feelings, and that is no better than a vicious murderer killing nine unarmed parishioners at a Bible study.

"Confederate flag flyers are not an organization..." Naturally, but racists do form organizations that proudly fly the Confederate Battle Flag as an emblem of their racism.

"To assume that a person who flies the battle flag embraces racism is incorrect." Truly, many, if not most people who fly the Confederate Battle Flag are just plain ignorant, and know nothing of its history and traditions.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 06/26/2015 at 7:55 PM

Re: “Dylann Roof's teachers, Bernie Sanders' chances, and more

Asawatcher, you need to brush up on analogies. Your post should be more like:

If I demonize Germans, I’m no better than the guy who turned on the gas at Auschwitz?

"I’m sorry, Dave H, but organizations that promote beliefs ARE responsible for the actions of those who embrace those beliefs,"

Confederate flag flyers are not an organization nor do they belong to any particular belief. To assume that a person who flies the battle flag embraces racism is incorrect.

To assume the Second Amendment proponents embrace or advocate murdering people is likewise wrong.

And yes, if you assume otherwise, you are indeed no better than people like the Charleston gunman.

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Posted by Dave H on 06/26/2015 at 1:29 PM

Re: “City to take on cannabis clubs, and more

Dont mean to be negative nancy but the marijuana dispesing game legit wise is terribly expensive, license fees upon rules and regulations, taxes the list goes on and on. Laws are meant to be followed, wanna sell marijuana/hash? Get a license to sell marijuana like the other 900 or so licensed dispensaries in the state. Dont cut corners- get license- period. I will say A64 club is the one needle in the haystack. And should be the ideal model for clubs across the state. At least they follow the rules and have been since they opened, kudos to that!!

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Posted by Luke Bonow on 06/25/2015 at 11:47 PM

Re: “The next chapter of Suthers' regulatory legacy

The Genie is out of the bottle and NO ONE is putting it back in; Suthers, the Feds and my mom have got to wake up and smell the ..........coffee?

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Posted by TheStupidPatrol on 06/25/2015 at 7:15 PM

Re: “The next chapter of Suthers' regulatory legacy

I didn't support him and hope his draconian efforts as mayor will fail as more and more people are convinced of the medicinal use that cannabis brings us, and agree that this is the only business that is growing in our city...

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Posted by Ed Sanders on 06/25/2015 at 3:08 PM

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