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Comment Archives: stories: Special Section: Education Guide

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

Since you are capable of posting messages here, UCanSeeClearlyNow, why don't you just tell us what is on your mind, instead of whining and blaming The Independent.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 12/08/2013 at 11:03 AM

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

So when is the Independent going to run an article from those who did not think Amendment 66 was a good idea?

Outspent 10-1 they were still able to make their point to the voters - yet they get no voice here?


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Posted by UCanSeeClearlyNow on 12/07/2013 at 6:09 PM

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

Let's back up for a moment, TejonTech. The subject is how to improve public schools.

You wrote, "...educate parents how to parent, how to offer a stable and healthy family system." Your proposed solution would entail hiring more teachers, social workers, and administrators; raising taxes to fund the effort; worst of all, empowering the government to define for private citizens what makes for a "stable and healthy family system." Perhaps the most absurd aspect of your solution is that it will take parents who often must work two jobs to make ends meet away from their children so they can be lectured on how they ought to spend more time with their children.

I wrote that raising the minimum wage would be a much simpler solution to the problem of giving parents more quality time to spend with their children, but you object that some shadowy person, or force, or entity whom you never identify "never intended" for minimum wage jobs to support families.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 12/06/2013 at 7:14 PM

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

Mr K...those jobs that pay minimum wage were never intended to be jobs that would support a family...that is why good parents and teachers tell you to get an education so you will have skills for which companies are willing to pay top dollar. If you have a minimum wage job it is probably because you diffed off instead of doing homework, did drugs instead of reading good books...and now want everyone to cover the cost of your misbehavior...sorry, survival of the fitness has kicked in...

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Posted by TejonTech on 12/05/2013 at 11:05 PM

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

Raising the minimum wage would be a much more practical solution for working families struggling with poverty.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 12/05/2013 at 5:45 PM

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

The only thing that will fix our schools is to transfer the high salaries from administration to teachers...

Then to close our borders so we are teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic instead of English.

Then to educate parents how to parent, how to offer a stable and healthy family system...and require they get an education themselves instead of complaining that they can't raise their families on the wage they make as unskilled and uneducated people.

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Posted by TejonTech on 12/05/2013 at 2:44 PM

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

These figures are skewed. China only released test scores for students living in Shanghai. Their numbers do not reflect the entire country.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 12/05/2013 at 10:14 AM

Re: “The search goes on for answers to inequality in Colorado's schools

China #1 & USA ranked greater than 25th in the world in Educational test given to 15 year olds. I think we can do much better than this if we want to compete in the global market in jobs and such.…

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Posted by gurudori on 12/04/2013 at 1:24 PM

Re: “Check out these colleges, universities, trade schools and continuing education opportunities

No Colorado school of trades? I'd like to seem them on this list, next year!

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Posted by Kathy-Lane on 12/04/2013 at 8:53 AM

Re: “Education Guide 2013: Resources

With so many avenues for financing your education, it's often difficult to sort out what might work best for you, given your situation and time frame. Whether you'll be moving into your dorm room in two months or you're starting to save now for your toddler's college education or turn to the help of professionals. There is a reliable company but unfortunately it provides only short-term financial support.

Posted by Monica White on 08/07/2013 at 7:06 AM

Re: “Education Guide 2013: Resources

This article of great help to those people who are confused about what to choose and how to go about it. Great tips on career training courses!

Posted by Hannah Johansson on 05/06/2013 at 3:31 AM

Re: “Front-line friends

How weird the identify yourself as gay or straight when you are not even married and not supposed to having sex in the first place so that you could even know your proclivities or old enough to distinguish adolescent experimentation or actual orientation.

Posted by TejonTech on 11/26/2012 at 3:39 PM

Re: “Front-line friends

That was only my micro list.

Posted by Padre Ben Island OSB on 11/26/2012 at 2:43 PM

Re: “Front-line friends

The past few days I have been distributing a macro list and a micro list for the renewal of America. I regret that my list did not have an anti bullying point. Bullying is certianly a greater threat to america than the Taliban. People who have been bullyed often react in unexpected ways. I will now add an anti bulling plank as point number 11.
Here are the other ten points for you to see and consider.
1.) If you do not want to become a vegitarian eat more rabbit meat. It will protect you from urges.
2.) Learn to play Pasuer. Playing cards is one of the best things that you can do for the environment.
3.) Sit on a bamboo chair while you are playing cards. After you have been victorious think about the many other uses that bamboo can have.
4.) Plant blueberry and rassberry bushes.
5.) Take a racist to dinner. One racist is more dangerous to America than 1000 taliban in Afghanistan. But how can a racist be reformed if he only has contact with other racists?
Who is going to reform him if not you?
6.) Dry your clothes on the line.
7.) Take a shower not a bath. If you do take a bath in the winter time leave the water in the tub until it is cold to help heat your house.
8-) Do not buy gold or diamonds. you are only taking part in a pyramid scheme that helps the rich get richer. Buy Saffron instead.
9.) Suport Zidisha. It is something that you should learn more about.
10.) If you can afford a pilgrimage do NOT go to Mecca. Go to Brunssum Netherlands instead. Check in to the Golf Hotel. Then go down the road to the NATO Headquarters known as AFNORTH. Walk three times around the perimeter with a peace sign and an orange feather.

Posted by Padre Ben Island OSB on 11/26/2012 at 2:41 PM

Re: “Another approach: charter schools

The data is in CSAP is a failure and has cost CO millons in taxpayer dollars yet they still push it on the public. Charter schools, like online schools, are an effort to privatize public education funded by billionaires like Bill Gates and Eli Broad. There's big money in education. Corporate money mongers have figured it out; McGraw-Hill almost has a monopoly. They create the curriculum, the text books and the tests. They send highly paid lobbyists to convince politicians they should buy into it. The only problem being those politicians aren't eductors and wouldn't know a good curriculum from a bad one. Privatizing education would create lots of little schools, segregating students and dumbing down education while padding the pockets of corporate CEOs and administrators all over the US. They are and will continue getting rich off the backs of our kids. Why wouldn't the government want to privatize education? It costs millions to build, staff, furnish, supply and insure a school.The only problem is public school is better for children than corporate run charter schools or online schools. An online school, unlike a real teacher can't reach into it's pocket and buy an impoverished child a coat or a lunch. 50% plus students leave online education after count day; the day that determines school funding. It just doesn't work for most kids but the funding doesn't move with the student who leaves for traditional public education. The funding stays with the failing online school and leaves traditional public school scrambling for additional money to educate and catch up incoming online students. Online has been a massive failure; just like CSAP but our tax dollars are still funneled into it. And, if your child doesn't take the CSAP/TCAP for whatever reason; online turns off the education your tax dollars paid for. There is a very big picture here that many fail to see. The difference between the 'haves' and the 'have nots' is education. The 'haves' go to private schools and get the great, well paid, teachers and all the amenities money can buy and the 'have nots' get standardized testing. Private school don't waste their time on standardized testing they actually spend their time teaching. There is a class war going on and education is what divides us. If the 'haves' keep the 'have nots' poorly educated or just educated enough to serve thus dividing us then the 'haves' stay the 'haves'. This country isn't a democracy; it's run by the 'haves'. It's run by greed and the Corporate Party of America. Government keeps us divided by whatever issue they think is important to the masses while quietly pursuing their real agenda; to stay the 1%. Education is the key. An educated and organized population is a scary thing to the 1%. Dont' buy into it. Don't allow your kids to take the mandated CSAP/TCAP or any of the district tests. Exercise your rights as a parent, under the 14th Amendment, and ask that they teach and not test. No one ever learned anything from taking a test; children learn from hands on education spent in class with a highly trained education professional who is paid what he or she is worth. This is how other countries do it and that's why they surpass the US on the PISA exams. Pisa is the international exam and the US has never done well on the PISA since it's inception. So why then are we continuing to spent the millions per state we spend on testing that isn't working? The countries which surpass the US spend their time teaching their students not testing them to death the way we do here. So, the next time the presidency looks a bit dynastic; ask yourself are they the 'haves' or the 'have nots'. When the President hires his Harvard, hoop shooting buddy to run the Department of Education having never taught a class; ask yourself are they the 'haves' or the 'have nots'. How and where were they educated? My guess is you won't see too many 'have nots' running the country. The 1% runs everything. The 1% controls education. The 1% therefore divides the country making the 1% strong so they stay in control. All children should have the same education as the children of the 1%. Education is everything.

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Posted by I saw the light on 01/17/2012 at 12:58 AM

Re: “Another approach: charter schools

My child went to Rocky Mountain Classical Charter Academy. He was denied enrollment after attending the school for 2 years. He has ADD, Asperger characteristics and Generalized Anxiety Disorder and has a 504 plan under the Americans with Disabilities Act. He was on the honor roll at school but due to his disability we refused standardized testing which was NOT required when we entered the school. All public schools in CO receive public funding but traditional public schools cannot make a child take a CSAP or TCAP if the parents refuse the test. Charter schools are public schools which are funded with our tax dollars and cherry pick students to manipulate their scores. My son was expected to pass the CSAP with flying colors which would offset the score of a child who did not pass. When we refused testing it angered the principal so she denied my son re-enrollment. My son is gifted and didn't need to take the test and we saw no reason to put him through six days of testing, due to his disability, so the school could make their quota. How can it even be legal for a public school to deny education to the children of the taxpayers who support it? Charter schools also have a plethora of other interesting facts. They're poor. They depend on partents to buy supplies and equipment. They often hire Teach For America(TFA) teachers. Those so called 'teachers' are high achivers in college recruited to serve a two year stint in public education. They are given a five week training course and 80% of them do not stay in education. They are virtually untrained and definitely uncertified to be teachers and don't know how to manage difficult students or classes; they don't have enough training. The byproduct of charter schools is segregation. We spent decades trying to integrate our schools and now charters are turning back the clock! Charters are also rampant with netotism and this is usually why they close or are financially unstable and lose the wonderful teachers and classes they brag about and that's exactly what happened to RMCA. In traditional public schools parents have rights; in a charter parents are asked to sign 'committment' letters signing their rights away. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR CHILD TO CSAP/TCAP TESTING IN COLORADO or district Scantron, NWEA or DIBELS for that matter. The US Supreme Court supports your right to guide your child's education which is protected by the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment; regardless of what the Colorado Department of Education says. This is still America and last I heard it's a free country. Know you rights

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Posted by I saw the light on 01/17/2012 at 12:10 AM

Re: “Another approach: charter schools

I have 2 daughters, one who attended "public" school (D-2 and D-11) and one who has attended only a charter school (D-11) I wish I had known the truth about charter schools when my oldest started school! At 8, my youngest can carry on a conversation in German, Sign, and Spanish.. she can multiply 3 and 4 digit numbers, and can create simple video games on the computer. She is learning the joys of community and service, as well as dance and has been given an atmosphere of acceptance that allows her to be uniquely herself. My oldest suffered classes of more than 30 kids, uninspired teachers, and lesson plans designed for the lowest common denominator. She didn't hear a foreign language until jr.high, and was given tech classes based on early 90's information. I am ashamed at the lack of education my 20 yr old was given, when compared to the level my youngest has already received. Charter schools are the wave of the future.. private school education on a public school price tag!

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Posted by Emily Diane Bailey on 12/01/2011 at 11:10 AM

Re: “2011 Ed Guide

I appreciate the article on the comparative costs of our local institutions of higher education. I noted the annual cost of Nazarene Bible College is listed at $23,750, which is about three times the actual cost for a student at NBC. Our hourly rate and fees for a full time student are approximately $8,040 per year.

Mike Arrambide, Vice President for Finance

Posted by J. Mike on 05/20/2011 at 12:01 PM

Re: “You are not alone: homeschool resources

My children have been attending MVHSA since it began nearly 2 years ago. It has been an exceptional experience for our whole family. My kids are 10 and 6...both LOVE the program. The staff are sensitive to the varied needs of their students and families. As any home schooling parent will tell you.....home schooling does not look the same for any two families. This can be quite a challenge for an enrichment program. MVHSA embraces this unique challenge and has exceeded my expectations. Aside from their excellent staff, the after school activities they offer are mentioned in the previous posts. I highly encourage any home schooling family who is considering an enrichment program to check out MVHSA.

Posted by HRyan on 12/16/2010 at 10:51 PM

Re: “You are not alone: homeschool resources

Thanks ypadilla and SJ Dalnoky for the information about Mountain Vista Home School Academy in D2. We appreciate your posts and will note this for next year's K-12 Education Guide.

Posted by Kirsten Akens on 11/30/2010 at 11:11 AM

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