One of the reasons more patrol cars and more fire stations are needed is the endless expansion of Colorado Springs towards Kansas and Nebraska.
Its time we start talking about slow growth initiatives.
This proposal seems very flawed. First this so called "free money" from the state is actually our state tax money. I guesse it would be nice to get our share of it but not if we have to wasted a bunch of our resources to do so. The idea of building a multi use stadium downtown while the world arena and security service field are underutilized does not make any sense. An olympic museum might be a tourist draw although it is unlikely to draw new tourists. If an Olympic museum were to be built wouldnt the olympic training center be a natural location for it? The airforce visitor center would be too far away from the airforce academy to draw tourists. The sports medicine center idea is appealing but doesnt seem to have much to do with tourism. Bundling 1 or 2 good ideas with a bunch of losing proposals is likely to mean the whole project fails.
Proponents say that doing something is better than doing nothing.
Some better ideas I have heard suggested include finishing and promoting the trail around Pikes Peak and having a downtown hotel with a large indoor waterpark that would draw families from throughout the region. Also promoting a downtown year round farm and art market similar to pike place in Seattle.
Who is "we," Paul? Like many citizens, even though I don't agree with everything they do, I applaud the Council for taking their responsibilities seriously.
Don't know where you ever got the idea that city managers were never removed from office. Council functioned very effectively under the old system until the house of cards built by the military expansion started to collapse after 9/11 and revenues dropped. We've always had the vote and we've always had mayors. The difference is that old-line mayors, for the most part, knew how to use influence effectively. Bach does not. He throws temper tantrums instead.
We are very concerned about the platform these City Council members ran on for elected office and now the agenda's that they are presenting. Not one of them in office presented an agenda to CHANGE THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT PREVIOUSLY VOTED FOR AND APPROVED BY THE CITIZIEN'S OF THIS CITY! We heard to pro's and con's prior to making our decisions and voting, we did not walk blindly into this governmental change!
Prior to the change we the Citizens could not vote out or recall a City Manager it took a 5-4 vote to fire the City Manager from City Council and that never happened! We now have the right to perform those options if the Mayor and his Staff are out of line with the publics desire. We do not need the City Council to protect us from the Executive branch we can and will take care of that on our own! City Council needs to legislate not mandate!
GUESS WHAT FOLKS? My former comment "RMJ tours that could expand use of the city airport and B&Bs that are friendly to RMJ to bring people here for a vacation." On the evening news they reported that a RMJ tour company is now going to do this in Denver with a tour bus that will take you from Denver to the ski slopes with as much bud as you can smoke along the way!
Why are we not doing this in Colorado Springs? Our reputation needs to be upgraded from the conservative status that we have held for decades and if we are willing to accept this change we will progress into the 21st century!!!
Good luck in your endeavors, it is not easy work. I will write about you in my blog http://alfacoffee.blogspot.com/
Is it me or did we not see a whole crop of Storm Trooper themed Dodge Chargers hit the streets Jan 1 this past year?
Wow. This will be a very interesting power struggle. Bach vs City Council, round 10 begins. I find it fascinating that City Council proposed budget changes that were recommended or requested by citizens during a public input process, yet Bach struck down the requests and suggestions from the population in a blatant act of disregard for the People's will. That's called tyranny, folks.
Good for you Matthew. I love it! Thanks for being an advocate and all your hard work in the El Paso community.
What's the big deal about replacing policy patrol cars? Seattle, a city with fewer citizens than El Paso County, is still driving their Ford Crown Victorias which have be out of production so some time.
The strong-mayor ballot measure provided for the mayor's veto and the council's override, correct? Rather than Melcher pointing to a situation at the state level, he should have pointed to the city ballot provisions. After nearly three years, the lawyer hasn't acted like he understands public law. Does he leave office next month?
The council needs to scrutinize the financials of the C4C proposal. The cost to city/county taxpayers over a 30-year period is $350M. Can we afford to use most of our borrowing capacity on these 4 projects with the hope that a stadium etal will revitalize downtown, attract tourists, and spur the local economy when there are other truly urgent needs? The mayor is chasing after "free" sales tax rebate dollars which are only 8% of the total cost of C4C.
Also, it's alarming that a bond issuance does not require a vote of the people. This, in addition to the facts of the financing, makes C4C worthy of the council's attention. One councilman, Joel Miller, is doing the digging on our behalf. http://www.joelmillercoloradospringscityco… but the magnitude of C4C demands that the full council take C4C seriously.
What is the purpose to this investigation? To crucify someone, or to improve response for future fires? It certainly can't undo the fire. Clearly the fire was totally out of control shortly after units arrived, and in the hands of the state in an hour - what was the the Black Forest chief supposed to have done differently?
the day that we got our dog tags in boot camp in June of 1976 I was ridiculed by a Baptist recruit who thought it his duty to check everybody's tags to see who was "Christian" and not - my tags said "CATH" for Catholic, but he berated me LOUDLY anyhow. Said I couldn't possibly be a Christian.
Fortunately he was later reprimanded by a Company Commander who found out from another what the kid was doing.
I was raised Catholic, and the term was on the tags mainly to keep peace with my family back home. I had already decided that religion was poppycock - and he just further proved my point. You have, yet again. FOOL.
2013 (-) 10% would seem appropriate. I think that going with the proposed amount will result in 3Q2014 finding council scrambling to come up with 13 M in budget cuts similar to 2008 - - in addition to worrying about who is leaking all the emails !
Thanks, Andy. One of the council staff said she thought it was 2013 budget, plus 10 percent, although my recollection was minus 10 percent as you state.
If no budget, it's the 2013 budget minus 10% as I understand it, not plus.
Hopefully, we don't go there.
The council is the public's vanguard against frivolous spending on projects that do not have public support and will not benefit the citizens. The council needs to scrutinize the financials of the C4C proposal. Over a 30-year period, the taxpayers of COS will have to pay over $350M in principal and interest on the bonds to be issued to build the stadium and other 3 projects. The sales tax increment money will not go into the city's general fund but will instead go to make payments on the bonds. This diverted money is therefore unavailable to pay for infrastructure or any other needs COS will have in the next 30 years. And it will use up most of the city's borrowing capacity so that when money is needed for some urgent need, the city's only recourse will be to raise taxes or sell assets. Shockingly, issuing bonds does not require a vote of the citizens. U Village, the redevelopment project on N. Nevada across from UCCS, was bond financed without voter approval. And about the "free" state dollars the mayor etal are so eager to secure - that $53M amounts to 8% of the total cost of C4C.
The Gazette, whose owner is a major backer of C4C, is active promoting these projects, especially the downtown stadium, praising the PROS, but is silent on the gut-wrenching financials. The city council MUST look into the CONS of C4C. One councilman, Joel Miller, is doing just this. http://www.joelmillercoloradospringscityco… Mistakes have consequences. Huge mistakes have huge consequences. The council and those not blinded by the idea that COS "must do something - try anything - grab those "free" dollars" - must get the word out before this disaster in the making - behind closed doors - is a fait accompli.
Sounds good, I especially like the stewardship of citizens money part. It is nice to know Mr. King realizes the money from taxpayers is not his money. Too bad the Mayor isn't in sync with that.
Many of these serious issues may never get resolved with the closing of the Olive Branch.
The Sunday Gazette has an editorial and full-page article with photos about Oklahoma City, propagandizing that COS should model itself on OKC. But OKC has more in common with Denver than COS. Both are state capitols, both have a 1M+ metro population, both are avid sports towns with a multitude of major and minor teams, both have downtown highrises, corporate offices, vibrant theatre, etc. Suggesting that COS copycat OKC is not much different from saying we should copy Denver, which is, dare I say it, impossible. Instead, COS should look at the other cities in Oklahoma and see what they are doing to make their city successful in the long shadow of OKC - (just kidding).
Like COS, OKC has just received a USL PRO soccer franchise, to begin playing in spring 2014. The long-time OKC mover/shaker behind this is Prodigal LLC, which is planning to build a soccer stadium. I read several articles and none said Prodigal is using govt dollars to do this. Instead, Bob Funk of Prodigal is looking for development partners and investors. Is Ragain, with his vast fund of inexperience, up to the task of bringing soccer to COS without being coddled and spoon fed with taxpayer dollars? BTW, Prodigal has named the soccer team 'Energy'. This is very revealing as to why OKC is prospering while COS is stuck in neutral.
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