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Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Yeah well I think you've proven you know neither "love" nor "peace", TejonTech. What I read is the vitroil of an isolated and fearful man. It's sad really, because you drive far more people away than you'll ever attract.
Posted by
Zen
on 05/06/2013 at 11:13 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Cliche spins...boring
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/06/2013 at 7:52 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
I also thought of another great example of why we need to have the separation of Church and State: Not only did Apostle Paul use his Roman Citizenship to have a fair trail when the Jews wanted him excuted for converting to Christianity and blaspheme again OT ( He was the Father to the born again Christian Church whereas Apostles Peter and James started the Catholic Church on the grounds of sticking to traditional pagen holidays- Easter is the holiday for the goddess Ester, not the Final Passover as it actually should be.)
You are going to love this TT.... Martin Luther also used his German citizenship to save his life when the Catholic Church summons him to Rome as a Jesuit priest for heresy, but he petitioned the German King for his trail to be held in a German city so he could be protected because he knew he would be assinated if he traveled to Rome. Remember him? He's the guy with the 96 thesis against the abominations within the Catholic Church? He left the Catholic Church and started the Reformation Church... got married to a former nun and lived another 30 years as the main Biblical Scholar for the King at a University in Germany.
Remember indulgences? Remember if you don't accept Jesus we will kill you period in European history? That is why the French and American constitutions added this clause in 1780s just so that any governing Church could never pull this crap again.
Remember the Inquisition? How they used church doctrine to kill thousands of pegans to take their land, indigenous people in South and North America and other believers like wicca and keltic and such? No, you seem to like to hold a rosey colored view of Catholic Church history.
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/06/2013 at 4:41 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
CLICK HERE TO PLAY THE GAME "VOTE FOR A MORON!" If you agree with Tejon Tech last statement on "think they are voting in a new truth as if they could reverse God's creative decisions." click like, but if you do not agree with TT, click dislikes. If TT gets more dislikes than likes..... then he is a MORON! LMAO!!!
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/06/2013 at 4:22 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
I love on this list how people clicking like and dislike think they are voting in a new truth as if they could reverse God's creative decisions.
That is what Broadbent is attempting...he makes it up to be like he would have done if he were God, even though what he would have done is simply contrary to God's obvious will and purpose.
You can't change the truth by popular vote, as Colorado is now destined to see.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/06/2013 at 9:10 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
This pastor is just one of the false prophets that will come in the last days. The Californication of Colorado is moving at full steam.
Posted by
louiet
on 05/06/2013 at 6:40 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Jesus warns us against idolatry, fornication, and murder...seems like the secular agenda claims all three...unquestioned tolerance is idolatry, fornication is any sex outside marriage (to include all gay etc. sex and this sort of adolescent sex advocated by the morning after pill) and murder, which is what abortion is pure and simple...so Guru and Zen...the final judgment is going to be calling you to repentance and amendment of life big tie...as well as me for my sins.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/04/2013 at 2:13 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Secularism isn't new, TT, it was how our country was originally founded with Seperation of Church and State, so don't try to re-write history. It has only been since the 1980's when the evangical churches started a movement to insert Christian morality into our governmental laws. So why can't each and every person govern themselves instead of having to follow your brand of religion? Just because we don't want it in our governing laws doesn't mean we don't practice morality and personal spirituality in our homes.
From Wikepedia: Seperation of Church and State: Thomas Jefferson:
In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.[15]
The Bill of Rights was one of the earliest examples in the world of complete religious freedom (adopted in 1791, only preceded by the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in 1789) but it was interpreted as establishing a separation of Church and State only after the letter of Jefferson (see section United States for more details). At the time of the passage of the Bill of Rights, many states acted in ways that would now be held unconstitutional, some of them with official state churches. All of the early official state churches were disestablished by 1833.
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/04/2013 at 9:33 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Zen...Denver Seminary? That explains why you are an advocate for the new secularism and not the Christianity of the Apostles. Your education is faulty and doesn't serve you well.
The religion of Jesus is one where God's love directs and rules our hearts toward peace now and eternity ultimately.
Your religion of permissiveness and self affirmation is a direct path to pain now and dysfunction in the future...not something a loving God would wish for his children.
God, as scripture says, has a special place for wolves in sheep's clothing like you.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/04/2013 at 6:47 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
TejonTech, speaking as one with a degree in Religious Studies, who studied theology and ministry at Denver Seminary, and has worked in Protestant and Catholic church and para-church organizations, I can confidently and authoritatively say that you my friend are no Christ follower. You're a Pharisee. And a milk fed one at that. It's time to take back the church from people like you ... people who have overseen the largest single decline in US church attendance in history. If Jesus were to return today, I have zero doubt you'd be first to pick up a hammer and nail. You genuinely have no idea what you do. And for that, I just feel sorry for you. Grow up milk fed ... before it's too late. Good luck with all that self-righteous rage.
Posted by
Zen
on 05/03/2013 at 11:16 PM
Re: “The twisted road from Amendment 2 to 'I do'”
TejonTech it is truly sad to see a person so tied up in knots as you.
Posted by
Zen
on 05/03/2013 at 11:04 PM
Re: “Mikey's Mission”
Mr. Weinstein is a joke and is only doing this to gain popularity in his otherwise useless life. People like this should not even get airtime or allowed to spew his hatred towards the god fearing people of this country. Mr. Weinstein you have the right not to beloeve but I along with millions of others have the right to assemble and profess our religious beliefs. I feel really sorry for you Mr. Weinstein, life is to short to hate and be so up tight. You are probably needing those workouts so you don't blow a blood vessel. May God bless you Mr. Weinstein.
Posted by
Sheri Kirkpatrick
on 05/03/2013 at 8:15 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Admonishing each other and defending the truth trumps letting a false teaching stand....look it up!
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/03/2013 at 5:27 PM
Re: “The twisted road from Amendment 2 to 'I do'”
As a person who moved here from Iowa, I feel Colorado Springs has many wonderful attributes, but tolerance isn't one of them. It never ceases to surprise me that with the amount of diversity here, it doesn't seem to be reflected in the voices of voters or public officials. I hope that in ten years, Colorado Springs has come even further in advancing social equality.
Posted by
Mandy Riggle
on 05/03/2013 at 5:13 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Apparently, TT has forgotten some of his childhood Bible Lessons while professing his doctrine of hate again. Picking on church folk and their minister- Shame on you!
John 8:1-12 The woman caught in adultry- What did Jesus tell the Pharisees? vs 7- He who is without sin cast the first stone. vs 11- Neither do I condemn thee; go, and sin no more. Why did Jesus say this when the Law of Moses said she should be stoned? Because Christ Jesus entered in the Grace Administration and we are no longer under the Law.
Romans 8:1- There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.
And my favorite: 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels and have not charity (love of god) I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal..(noises that hurts the ears because there is no love of God in the motivation- sound familar TT? )..13- And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three;but the greatest of these is charity.
Posted by
gurudori
on 05/03/2013 at 3:54 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
It is nice to hear a minister who doesn't believe anything and can agree with whatever warped view of God you have devised...and gives permission to behave any way you want like he does.
To take God out of the conversation imposes and establishes the secular/your point of view...how is that better than the view that has proven effective and life giving for thousands of years...are you smarter than all humans who have ever lived?
I am sure you do go to First Congo whatever feels good, make it up as you go Church...with worship led by the gay men's choir....groovy.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/02/2013 at 6:31 PM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Oh yeah, and I admire and respect the Reverend Broadbent's views on gay marriage in his church and community. It is refreshing to hear from a religious leader in the community who is not hellbent on hell fire and damnation!
Posted by
COnative59
on 05/02/2013 at 10:26 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
The problem seems to be that the straight-“religious” crowd believes they have the corner market on what is right or wrong, fair or unfair, just or unjust, holy or sinful and that they can impose those beliefs onto the rest of the population. And since many people do not worship the same god, with the same rules and interpretations, or any god at all, why don’t we just remove the whole religious/god part of the argument. Then the problem can be viewed as what it truly is – a civil equal rights issue. Don’t impose your interpretative beliefs into someone else’s life, and they won’t impose theirs into yours. Really, when it comes right down to it, how does gay marriage affect your life in any way, shape or form? Why lose sleep over this issue? What is your problem with EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL?
Posted by
COnative59
on 05/02/2013 at 10:09 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
So basically, just because you've never heard it before, it's wrong? I invite you to a service, so that you can experience the "lightweight."
Posted by
thewindcriesmary
on 05/02/2013 at 9:48 AM
Re: “Viewing civil unions from the pulpit”
Zen...again boring...typical liberal emotional defense of a position contrary to nature...and not true.