Last Thursday my father died of a massive heart attack. He died due to the teachings of this Christian cult. Wommack ministries is a fraud teaching new age/occult dogma under a Christian umbrella . He bilked my dad out of thousands of dollars on his fraud told him the only thing that he needed to do was pray. Need money?...pray Bad health?...pray everything is pray. He has taken a new age concept THE SECRET and labeled it Christian . My dad had a bit of high blood pressure family had tried to get him to go to the doctor a homeopathic doctor someone anyone because high blood pressure is an easy fix but because Wommack insists that if you are truly faithful God will heal without modern medicine. So now as it stands all of you that take money from this snakeoil for the soul you are taking blood money you help this fraud continue his con and expose your families to it. My dad was 65 he still had a decent life ahead of him. Now because of this Christian cult I have been robbed of my loved one I never again get to hug my dad and tell him I love him my children will miss out on their grandfather. My family has been forever changed . Andrew Wommack helped to kill my father Wommack is a dangerous cult leader only worried about $$$$. Shame on any of you that support this devil!!!!!!!!!!
Nori is a fabulous human and minister. She does a great job of comforting the afflicted and affflicting the comfortable. Her sermons are thoughtful and thought-provoking. And always provoke a good laugh. She is my favorite irreverent reverend. When she comes back from her 500 mile birthday walk later this summer come meet her and see for yourself at All Souls downtown.
Bill, Thank you for this well written article and interview transcription. Nori sounds like a wise and honest woman who demonstrates common sense, clear thinking, and respectful empathy for others. We need more community leaders of such exemplary character.
We just had a nut job murder 49 people and put 43 others in the hospital. They were in a downtown area famous for drinking, drugs partyingand gun shooting!!! My God please get some prospective!! A bible college bringing blessings to your town in all sorts of ways. Not likely to be drunkin shooting night clubbing with Bible Students. Dont ever consider being a journalist. This perspective is so very narrow. Almost like the writer has too much time on their hands and their mind is small and limited.
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Jusy say NO to ColoradoCare.
Well lets think about this. Employers are right now paying more then 10% for health care so 10% could be a bonus. Could this end workmans comp? After all if all are insured why would another be needed. If thats the case then a shit load of employers are going to flock here. Doctors are having trouble getting paid thats why Obama care was popular with many of them. Guaranteed payment would retain doctors.Wouldnt it? Most insurance companies make deals with the Hospitals and Doctors on the price of procedures so that wouldnt be anything new. Most of the studies are funded by grants through the University so Im not sure they would be effected. I dont know about all thats being dismissed so how about some answers. We got TABOR other States followed we got the pot other States followed this could start a National insurance that could replace the crap we had before and what Obama care is turning into.
This should not pass for two simple reasons:
1. Most businesses will be taxed 10% on their income (i.e. profit) to pay for the business owner's personal health insurance.
Any Colorado business owner can move their business to another state to save tens of thousands of dollars a year on their personal health insurance. And they will.
2. ColoradoCare will only pay up to 145% of Medicare rate, but the base rate is 130%.
Colorado will have the lowest paid specialists and surgeons in the country. Any specialist or surgeon can move to another state to double their income. And they will.
This has to be done at a national level, not a state level. Colorado would lose jobs, tax base, and quality doctors. This is what's known as a death spiral.
ColoradoCare? Ummmmmmmmm. Bring it.
Note to Valerie Murphy: what makes you think Medicare is free? Where do you get this idea? There is a monthly premium for Part B and if someone does not have the work history to qualify for Part A they also have to pay a premium for that. On top of that there is an annual deductible and most people also need to purchase a supplemental insurance besides basic Medicare. Then there is Part D and the annual deductible and "donut hole" for drug coverage. Please get your facts correct before you make blanket statements which are totally fictitious.
A lot of BS to wade through here but I'll give it a try...
1- the purchase of private health insurance right now is basically mandatory (unless you're content with dying from a treatable health issue)
2- Colorado care does not outlaw private insurance or paying out-of-pocket or restrict getting care elsewhere if that's what you want to do
3- your only valid point
4- while the Colorado care payroll tax is exempt from TABOR because it's revenues are not technically government funds, it still requires voter approval to rise the tax rate just like TABOR requires (section 9p8, you should read the amendment before posting) and yes 17% of our GDP is spent on Healthcare but Colorado care does not replace all of this, Medicare, Medicaid and the VA systems in the state would be unchanged and they account for almost half of Healthcare spending
5- your PCP should be giving any referrals you need and they aren't government employees. I'm not sure where you got this "gatekeeper" notion the ammendment says that you'll be free to utilize any doctor licensed in the state.
6- yes this is VERY business friendly! Do you have any idea how much time and cost goes into providing health coverage for employees? Every compny in the state negotiating with many different providers every single year? This will alow them to get out of that mess, and allow businesses in Colorado to focus on what they actually do for their business, it's not a government intrusion into business practices at all in fact it's the exact opposite. Colorado care yes estimates that city govs will save $177 million and county govs $84 million, including $11 mill for co springs, money that can be better invested in services or returned to tax payers. It's reasonable to expect private business in the state will see similar savings, this would be a very major selling point to businesses looking to expand into the state.
7- since when are illegal immigrants allowed to vote?
7 part two- in most cases this is true because competing providors are much better at providing services. Our "private" Healthcare system however is anything but a free market. The fact that most have Insurance coverage removes any incentive to save money since the patient doesn't pay directly. Each insurance pool is just a mini socialist Healthcare system except that they must answer to shareholders instead of patients. Also because the majority of us get coverage through our employer we dont even have a choice in which mini socialist Healthcare system we want to join so there isn't even that competition. insurance companies don't care about us because we aren't their customers, they sell to employers. Furthermore Colorado care isn't even a government run system anyway since the legislature has no influence over the elected board of trustees, it's a tax funded publicly owned co-op.
1. This is a MANDATORY tax of $25 BILLION with MANDATORY participation.
2. Every resident including illegals and those who work under the table for cash will get “free” health care. Oh, and forget Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. You will not be allowed to go anywhere without government permission.
3. Expect a huge increase in utilization. Adjusted for age and health, Medicare has a 50% higher utilization rate because it’s all “free.” Where will Colorado get all the doctors? Foreign countries?
4. Affordable? With medical costs running 17% of GDP, there is no way these people will run this scheme for ten percent of incomes. Since they won’t be limited by TABOR, once they get you, they will be able to raise the tax to whatever they want. Expect their cronies to get wealthy.
5 You may be allowed to choose a PCP. You will not be able to see a specialist without your government gatekeeper’s permission. Again, forget any specialized cancer center. That means you will not choose the heart surgeon who cuts you open.
6. Business friendly? Business friendly means keeping the government nose out of business decisions.
7. Every illegal and everyone who has never paid a dime into this mess will be able to vote on who runs it.
7. Government is never efficient and never saves money. Government is all about cronyism. In this case, it is leftist cronies, many from Boulder.
"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism." Kruschev
I personally spent the night in a committee hearing of the house this last session. By the time they took up our bill at 3 in the morning [a tactic used to hope we would leave] I was thoroughly convinced that the legislature is for special interests and wealthy lobbyist. It is a joke for the voice of the commoner. The ballot initiative is all we have left for sensible government for everyone. And it is not easy to get an initiative on the ballot either. Only TABOR was accomplished by a quasi grass roots campain; all other successful campaigns paid for their signatures. Democracy is defined by a majority and I distinctly remember my math teacher, Fr. Krieger, teaching us that anything above 50% is a majority, not 55%. I will work hard against these campaigns so that Coloradans have a seat at the table of our laws.
Andrew Womack is a good man with a loving and giving heart for people.
. I find it funny how "so called" liberals want everyone to be tolerant of others when in reality theyre the most intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree their point of view. Ie: If a conservative doesn't like something, they find an alternative. When a liberal doesn't like something they want attempt to force everyone to comply with them or they resort to belittling slandering using half truths or outright lying. Never ever attempt to confuse a liberal with the facts.
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Pedal On to Carrie and the rocking staff of the Colorado Springs Independent!
Back off people. Why all the hate? This is a country of power and money. His power and money has done more for this city then anyone of you bad mouthing him. What have you done to ensure jobs, tourism, a beautiful view. Are you taking care of the issue at hand, no didn't think so. With pot legalized more people come here to live, which his money has created jobs, visiting, which his money is fixing things that draw in crowds while you just wait for the city to fix problems. I bet if he paid for all the messed up roads we still have you would thank him because our tax money isn't getting the job done. So be thankful he's doing what he's doing to better Colorado Springs. Ungrateful people. Wow.
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