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Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Thank you for your kind words and good wishes, siggie. I am sure we have many goals in common. We only disagree on the best way to get there.
I had to change jobs recently, and I do not have as much free time as I used to have to spend on the blog. Since the election, we have all calmed down some, except for a few shell-shocked individuals, and I have no desire to waste my time rehashing old news with them.
I must add that the reasons I listed for opposing a boycott are not my only reasons. You cannot have a dialogue with someone whom you are boycotting. A boycott will only create even more hard feelings and will validate TejonTech's bad opinion of gays and gay activists. A boycott cuts off further dialogue and prevents any personal outreach or interaction that may soften positions and promote understanding on both sides of the debate.
I do not mention these reasons because they are sentimental and in my experience people pay lip service to good sentiments but rarely follow through in their actions. The reasons I put forth earlier are practical and hard-headed, and much more likely to produce effective results.
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 02/15/2013 at 10:32 AM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Guru...didn't step in anything at all...it is all great sport to get the gay community excited more appropriate than usually gets them cranked up.
Doesn't take too long baby sitting teenagers under the guise educating them to become sick and tired of experimental sex and bratty entitled indignation when people are horrified.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 02/14/2013 at 5:08 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
You know I'm real tired of people telling me to respect other people's anti-gay beliefs. How can I respect it when they don't respect gays and won't allow the same rights by exercising their voting choices? For them to tell everyone it's a choice to be gay is to say that they could chose it, too. Yet, most will say that wouldn't be natural for them. But, can't see that a gay person says the same thing about choosing to be straight. As we all have seen from the past, the black community had no respect for the white community because the white community, which had the power and voting rights, had no respect for them. Prejudice is Prejudice..Hate is Hate..and any loving religion never wanted that dogma.
It's futile to think that gay rights will halt and go no further. It's inevitable that equality will happen...just like all other equal rights such as abolishing slavery, women's right to vote, blacks right to vote, black and white's right to marry, etc...
Posted by
cosman
on 02/14/2013 at 5:07 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Really TT- looks like you stepped in a big pile of shit on this one. LMAO at YOU!
Posted by
gurudori
on 02/14/2013 at 4:29 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
K: (aver - good one!) It doesn't surprise me, in the least, that you would oppose a boycott. I figured you would weigh-in on this for the reasons you stated.
This issue aside, is your health okay? You were missing for awhile and, upon your return, you seem more reserved and subdued.
We likely agree on more than either of us would care to admit, but on issues in which we do not, I would hate to lose a worthy adversary.
Posted by
siggie
on 02/14/2013 at 4:03 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
I am opposed to a boycott as well. Beside the obvious point that this information cannot be confirmed and an innocent person might get hurt by it, what purpose would it serve? TejonTech is not a mover and shaker in the local community. His opinion carries no more clout with the power elite than yours or mine. A completely successful boycott of his business might punish him as an individual, but will do nothing to further the cause of gay liberation. On the contrary, it will hurt the cause by painting its adherents as intolerant, as siggie has already started to aver.
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 02/14/2013 at 3:34 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
The person who supposedly "outed" TejonTech was an imposter, trying to impersonate someone else, so I did not give his post much credit. But it was that same thread that led me to believe TejonTech was associated with the college. He wrote, "...we in the neighborhood and at the college..." I interpreted him to mean he was "at the college" not "in the neighborhood."
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 02/14/2013 at 2:42 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Begs the question, isn't marriage a religious rite? Back in the day some kids said "hey we wanna boink", and the elders said "you can't do that yet, God has to approve of it". That is the whole point, right? So, since marriage is a religious ritual, why does the government recognise it at all? Do Jewish men become consenting adults after their bar mitzvah in the eyes of the law? No, the first amendment prohibits that. So, if the Constitution forbids recognition of that religious rite, why does it allow recognition of this one?
Posted by
Stacy in Woodland Park
on 02/14/2013 at 2:33 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Sarah: Wow, what a vindictive and, dare I say, hateful thing to do. If indeed tech owns this place (never heard of it myself), I'm guessing you wouldn't use his services anyway.
Now, I'm not a religious guy, but it seems to me that tech objects to the gay lifestyle on a religious basis. Being Libertarian, I have the same tolerance for gays as I do religious folks. If they do me no harm and do not infringe on the rights of others, then live and let live. All that being said--- I'd rather see two guys praying than two guys kissing. But, that's just me. So, notwithstanding that you obviously don't like tech's opinions, Sarah, where is your tolerance?
Posted by
siggie
on 02/14/2013 at 2:21 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
In response to Mr. K, someone else outed him in his comments here http://www.csindy.com/IndyBlog/archives/20….
I don't know about him working at CC. That would be unfortunate. In previous comments, Tejon Tech has essentially called CC students to immoral, crystal gazing bums.
Posted by
SarahWhite
on 02/14/2013 at 12:55 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Really? I was under the impression he works for Colorado College in some capacity.
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 02/14/2013 at 12:34 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Oh, just an FYI for everyone. Tejon Tech is the owner of Tech Heads downtown. SO, I suggest, if you don't like his awful bullish behavior and his bigoted comments, you should definitely boycott his business and tell others to do so as well. Sorry Tejon Tech, but I'm tired of your hate.
Posted by
SarahWhite
on 02/14/2013 at 12:01 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Homosexuals always reveal without need of responding to them the back biting side of their disorder...something makes them feel angry and inadequate.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 02/13/2013 at 8:11 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
NO SENSE ARGUING WITH AN IDIOT LIKE TEJON TECH WHO AVOIDS FACTS AND STICKS TO HIS BIGOTED BS INSTEAD. If anyone would like to read just how stupid TT's arguements can get, click onto his name Tejon Tech below his comments. LMAO!!!
Posted by
gurudori
on 02/13/2013 at 4:55 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
TT- I will be laughing in your face when DOMA is repealled! You avoided my inquiry about "Historical" marriage when I asked about bigomy, arranged marriages and no divorce being in the Bible. You say we don't need the Civil Union rights since we can just pay a lawyer thousands of dollars to set up the rights anyone can get with the state license, so now I will ask you, WHAT IF YOU ARE STRAIGHT AND MARRIED AND CAN'T HAVE AND DON'T WANT TO ADOPT CHILDREN? I guess they don't deserve the rights given since they aren't procreating? Traditional or Historical marriage is a joke if you aren't following all of the OT laws because then you are just a HYPOCRITE TELLING OTHERS HOW TO LIVE! And I believe most marry for LOVE since we don't have to have a husband in order to have children anymore.
Posted by
gurudori
on 02/13/2013 at 4:48 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Matt,
The gays have bullied and browbeat their perspective into law and a false sense of societal acceptance...but it is still a choice to act out in such a way and still a perversion.
Don't kid yourself...and we all know...it is finally acquiescence, not acceptance you all have achieved.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 02/13/2013 at 2:53 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
It's not a lifestyle choice. You're an idiot. I'm sure gay people wake up and ask how they can feel alienated and have less rights than others... yep, let's choose that lifestyle. Seriously dude?
And the comment about power of attorney etc... just plain false.
By the way, two of my best friends are a gay couple raising a child, and doing a fantastic job at it to boot. Much better than your parents did, clearly.
Posted by
Matt Payne
on 02/13/2013 at 2:21 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
Perversion needs treatment, not special tax and health care incentives.
With AIDS and other diseases caused by the homosexual life style, all our rates will go up...
I am not for giving you anything equal to marriage, but like smokers pay higher rates, so should you.
It is not a lifestyle choice that should be encouraged by tax breaks...the tax breaks are for the care of children, which by definition you can't have, not for new decorating of your beach house.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 02/13/2013 at 1:01 PM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
hey tejontech...if you want to argue a point about same sex marriage, you should do your homework first...
1400 rights afforded by the United States Government to opposite sex married couples...
Parental rights out weighing same sex partner rights at the hospital
employer paid insurance plans are cheaper than any other plan but is taxable income for domestic same sex partners.
Shall I go on?
You are ignorant on this subject.
Posted by
carolyncathey
on 02/13/2013 at 11:49 AM
Re: “As civil unions move forward in Colorado, same-sex couples share their stories”
TT- Your a coward because you can remain anonymous and a bully because you knowingly are getting joy out of making pain for others. I sure hope you don't have children of your own who will mimic your spiteful behavior.