Um the thought of local law enforcemwnt taking on this extra reaponsibility will result in lawless in the forest. Have you ever had to dial 911 lately, "your call is very important to us. Please stay on the line, your call will be answered in the order it was received." Local law enforcement does not have the budget or staffing levels to do this.
The issue is somewhat different than explained. Generally, local control is better than federal control for issues such as parks because the citizens that use the parks are the ones that care the most. Local control is better than federal control because citizens have the ability to meet with local elected officials for any issues.
The threat of hikers being arrested by untrained forest rangers is concerning. There are many recent examples where the threat of enforcement has been used by the U.S. Forest Service against the local hiking community:
---At the public meetings for Jones Park, the U.S. Forest Service prominently displayed signs at every meeting with the penalties (jail time and fine) for hiking in the area. While the public continued to use the area, the threat of enforcement was used as an intimidation tactic. No one was arrested, but why threaten the thousands of users that summer? [even Doug Lamborn was run over by the USFS on this issue - his office did hike in protest of the ban].
---At the Bear Creek Roundtable, the U.S. Forest Service continues to push for enforcement of penalties against local hikers (proposed ordinance against off-trail hiking was recently discussed). The Historic Trail is scheduled for closure this summer, and the U.S. Forest Service maintains that local hikers will be dragged into federal court if they hike off-trail.
In the example cited at Mount Herman, I do not understand why the county sheriff would not be able to enforce a ban on shooting. The law to reimburse local agencies for the cost of enforcement seems reasonable.
Misuse of the power of enforcement is the concern. I prefer local control, supervised by an elected official, to what I have seen by the U.S. Forest Service. The criminal activity cited is: local hikers being off-trail. Not much of a crime except to the federal government. Why not leave this to the discretion of the local sheriff?
So many great memories and lifetime friends were made was just talking about the bar to my sister in law and we both were there but didn't know each other at that time. v Thank you very well written article
Amount of debt... Hmmm rich, wealthy, heaven... Such foolishness, I was hoping that dominionist christian would be defined in this article, what a blowhard.
Patience, really glad you addressed systemic issues in SE in your article. We need more news media that gets to the roots of things, for example, instead of just talking about crime- talking about the root causes of higher crime rates. Thanks for writing!
I appreciate the fact that in your article you also mentioned about Denver Works opening a satellite office in Sand Creek Lbrary. I live in the southeast area of town and every day I see hard working people who really do need work apprenticeship programs.
I also love the fact that Foid Rescue is helping lower economic situations have healthy fresh choices for food and it debunks the myth and stereotype that people in poverty don't want to eat well.
Thanks for the article
Being rich is a sign of God's favor? Is that why your bible says, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into heaven?
Excellent! Many so called leaders don't have the fortitude to point out the true problem, but not only did you do so. You offering the people one of many solutions. That deal directly with the problem. This is what one would call Overstanding. Great job Patience!
Patience is addressing one of the toughest issues in Colorado Springs. Dave Gardner talks about the urban sprawl and why that is a problem but, he doesn't go into detail about why it is happening. What we just witnessed on November 8th had been lying the underbelly of America for the last 8 years. Voters not only felt left out, but they also felt that their ecosystem was being challenged. Patience did a great job of outlining what we've seen and grew up with on a daily basis in Southeast Colorado Springs. This type of reporting can only bring clarity and understanding to the everyday issues we face.
A very well written and informative article about an extremely important issue. The more attention this issue is given hopefully will bring about much needed assistance and positive changes. Patience you are doing an amazing job.
Great thanks to Patience for turning attention to these issues, and most importantly, giving us a way to help right now. I agree with KB Girl above, too many residents of COS drive around not just statistical blights-- but people-- they don't want to see. I am so excited to see Denverworks in our community, helping these young men and women succeed. I hope to see more articles like this in the Indy, and more updates from Food Rescue too, addressing the needs of the SE side, and advancing locally derived solutions.
As a mother of two young African American boys, I relate strongly with this writer. I agree, the responsibility falls upon all of us to raise up Colorado Springs' children in a collectively healthy and socially responsible city. Any city "eye sores" or statistical blights must be owned by every resident, whether north, east, south or west (yes you can join the effort too OCC and Manitou folks!) We are far too comfortable driving around the southeast side of town and turning a blind eye to our black boys who need us all to expect greatness from them. Thank you Patience for drawing attention to our city's Diversity & diverse needs!
Really grateful for Patience covering this news and what it all means for Colorado Springs!
"dismisses half of the nation as 'deplorable'" she did not thus you are proven liar already tannim
outspent was the key! democracy for sale
Did I hurt your feelings so badly that you have to make up more brainless name-calling and insults so typical of Trump and his minions?
"so you hate half of America"
Na, not so much "hate" as simple contempt.
Half? No, not even close to half. After all, Hillary got MORE Americans to vote for her than Trump did. So that's a bit encouraging, although it does not speak well for democracy.
I guess its too much to ask, here in 21st century America, that we have a President who has enough personal integrity to NOT be enthusiastically backed by Nazis.
Your post (unless its brilliant sarcasm) reflects a perfect example of the type of individual I see as having voted FOR Trump. Now I can add Nazi to the list of "virtues" I associate with Trump voters.
Y'all oughta be ashamed.
pres. elect crotch grabber is a well proven lying sac. you can throw every lie he said to get elected out. he now is in it for business... he will be impeached with in the next two years. he can't ignore the 1st amendment... the press is going to hound this woman assaulter relentlessly. lying may impress his kkk buddies but the hillbilly goobers that voted for him... not so much... he doesn't give a rats rear about them. he pulled the con, now he will try and milk as much money out of this gig as possible. can't wait for his demise... what was that chant he eager led.. lock him up!!!
Hold on! Trump put on the right show to win. He is poopin his britches right now. As far as assawatcher... graduates of college never say, I went to HS then college, duh, but you didn't claim to graduate from either. It is a crime to impersonate a veteran. ...and you were never legally married. ..but that little Bastard did turn out to be a fine young man. ...so you hate half of America, but you despise the others and you were born down the street and now ur a perv...ok!
Tannim, you need to remember that the Constitution is not just made up of the 2nd and 4th Amendments. In Article II, Section 1 we are given the tools to right this wrong and we should use them while we can. Article II, Section 1 charges the Electors with voting the will of the people (1,152,000+ and counting for Hillary over Trump), and to eliminate unfit candidates. This is also restated in The Federalist Papers #68 where it makes the Electoral College the gatekeeper against demagoguery. Trump is a vulgarian at best and not the kind of national figure we should present to the world. At worst he is a con artist, racist, xenophobic mysoginist and a narcissistic sociopath to boot. But that's not the worst of it - the people he has chosen to advise him are worse than he is.
Don't wait to impeach this nutcase for his multiple conflicts of interest...then we get Pence and a theocracy. The time to act is now. Before the Electors vote. On December 19th.
It's also obvious, Tannim, that your primary news source has to be Breitbart and Alt-Right. Breitbart and Co have been sliming Hillary Clinton since she became First Lady - it is extremely profitable for them to do that. Who are you going to hate if the Clintons are gone? I'd say "try me", but you already do that.
Healthcare in the USA has failed in the "market-based" system, as evidenced by the staggering 14% of GDP we spend on healthcare--this is twice the amount spent by other developed nations. A study of healthcare economics is crucial, before opining on a subject . Give us your opinion , sure, but what are your opinions based on? Mine are based on university-level study of healthcare economics and 20 years of patient care and management.
Ann Forsyth, Physician Assistant
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